HC Deb 11 November 1976 vol 919 cc269-70W
Mr. Cartwright

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his estimate of the number of civilian posts in his Department which have been or will be lost as a result of reductions in spending programmes since March 1974.

Dr. Gilbert

Exclusive of the Royal ordnance factories which operate on a trading fund basis, our aim is to achieve

1st April 1971 1st April 1972 1st April 1973 1st April 1974 1st April 1975 1st April 1976 1st October 1976
Non-Industrial 145,000 141,000 143,000 142,000 145,000 143,000 140,000
Industrial 200,000 183,000 177,000 173,000 172,000 168,000 166,000

The figures, which include locally engaged staff abroad, are not directly comparable one year with another because of changes in departmental responsibilities.

Mr. Trotter

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many civilians were employed by the Army world wide at 1st April 1975 other than in the "Q" services; how they were divided among the United Kingdom, the BAOR and other countries; what was the nature of their duties; whether he still intends to reduce their number by some 5,600; and how these reductions will be divided between countries and functions.

Mr. Robert C. Brown

Other than in the "Q" services, the Army employed at 1st April 1975 some 59,000 civilians of whom 52 per cent. were in the United Kingdom, 39 per cent. in BAOR and 13 per cent. in other countries. Their duties were to support the Army in a wide range of administrative and clerical functions. It remains the intention to reduce this total by some 5,600, approximately two-fifths in the United Kingdom, one-fifth in BAOR and the remainder elsewhere. The reductions will be spread across the whole range of functions.

Mr. Trotter

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his current estimate of the total reduction to be made in the civilian staff of the Army's logistic services; how these are divided between the United Kingdom, the British Army of the Rhine and other countries; and

a reduction of some 35,000 posts by 1st April 1979.

Mr. Cartwright

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many (a) industrial and (b) non-industrial staff were employed by his Department on the most recent available date, compared with each of the past five years.

Dr. Gilbert

The total number of non-industrial and industrial civilians employed by the Ministry of Defence, including the Royal ordnance factories, at the dates requested is as follows:

whether these reductions differ from the Fair Value proposals of February 1976.

Mr. Robert C. Brown

The estimated total reduction in the number of civilian staff employed by the Army's logistic services in the years up to 1980 remains 5,400 as announced in February 1976. These reductions will be distributed approximately 3,300 in the United Kingdom, 1,300 in BAOR—including units in Belgium—and 800 in non-NATO areas.

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