HC Deb 21 February 1975 vol 886 cc565-78W
Mr. Churchill

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received from the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children in regard to the provisions of the capital transfer tax; and if he will make a statement.

Mr. Joel Barnett

I have been made aware of the views of the National Society

NO PREVIOUS GIFTS
Value of asset transferred (after all tax) Combined value of asset and tax paid by donor Tax payable Tax payable as proportion of asset transferred
£ £ £ Per cent
20,000 20,270 270 1.35
30,000 31,286 1,286 4.29
40,000 42,794 2,794 6.99
50,000 54,697 4,697 9.39
60,000 67,031 7,031 11.72
70,000 79,531 9,531 13.62
80,000 92,419 12,419 15.52
90,000 105,690 15,690 17.43
100,000 119,483 19,483 19.48
125,000 158,913 33,913 27.13
150,000 202,750 52,750 35.17
175,000 253,056 78,056 44.60
200,000 309,688 109,688 54.84
225,000 372,188 147,188 65.42
250,000 434,688 184,688 73.88
275,000 497,188 222,188 80.80
300,000 568,214 268,214 89.40
350,000 711,071 361,071 103.16
400,000 853,928 453,928 113.48
450,000 996,785 546,785 121.51
500,000 1,162,916 662,916 132.58
550,000 1,329,582 779,582 141.74
600,000 1,496,249 896,249 149.37
650,000 1,662,915 1,012,915 155.83
700,000 1,829,582 1,129,582 161.37
750,000 1,996,248 1,246,248 166.17
800,000 2,195,500 1,395,500 174.44

for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children about the effect of the capital transfer tax. Those views were expressed before the statement I made in the Standing Committee on the Finance Bill—[5th February 1975; c. 914–15]—on the treatment of gifts to charities.

Mr. Lawson

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in the Official Report the text of the Financial Secretary's letters to the hon. Member for Blaby which the Financial Secretary promised on 14th February to send to the hon. Member.

Dr. Gilbert

Yes. The text is as followsI promised on 14th February to send you some further information for which you had asked in connection with the rates of capital transfer tax. I now attach this.

Mr. Lawson

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will provide revised versions of the tables given in the Financial Secretary's Written Answer of 27th January to the hon. Member for St. Marylebone (Mr. Baker) in the light of Her Majesty's Government's new proposals for a reduced scale of rates of capital transfer tax on lifetime gifts.

Dr. Gilbert,

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 10th February 1975; Vol. 886, c. 8], gave thte following information:

The revised tables are given below.

NO PREVIOUS GIFTS-continued
Value of asset transferred (after all tax) Combined value of asset and tax paid by donor Tax payable Tax payable as proportion of asset transferred
850,000 2,395,500 1,545,500 181.82
900,000 2,595,500 1,695,500 188.39
950,000 2,795,500 1,845,500 194.26
1,000,000 2,995,500 1,995,500 199.55
PREVIOUS GROSS GIFTS TOTALLING £15,000
20,000 22,000 2,000 10.00
30,000 33,676 3,676 12.25
40,000 45,781 5,781 14.45
50,000 58,281 8,281 16.56
60,000 70,968 10,968 18.28
70,000 83,871 13,871 19.82
80,000 97,586 17,586 21.98
90,000 112,115 22,115 24.57
100,000 127,500 27,500 27.50
125,000 170,000 45,000 36.00
150,000 217,750 67,750 45.17
175,000 271,389 96,389 55.08
200,000 332,188 132,188 66.09
225,000 394,688 169,688 75.42
250,000 457,188 207,188 82.88
275,000 524,643 249,643 90.78
300,000 596,071 296,071 98.69
350,000 738,928 388,928 111.12
400,000 881,785 481,785 120.45
450,000 1,031,250 581,250 129.17
500,000 1,197,916 697,916 139.58
550,000 1,364,582 814,582 148.11
600,000 1,531,249 931,249 155.21
650,000 1,697,915 1,047,915 161.22
700,000 1,864,582 1,164,582 166.37
750,000 2,040,500 1,290,500 172.07
800,000 2,240,500 1,440,500 180.06
850,000 2,440,500 1,590,500 187.12
900,000 2,640,500 1,740,500 193.39
950,000 2,840,500 1,890,500 199.00
1,000,000 3,040,500 2,040,500 204.05
PREVIOUS GROSS GIFTS TOTALLING £50,000
£ £ £ Per cent
20,000 24,688 4,688 23.44
30,000 37,419 7,419 24.73
40,000 50,345 10,345 25.86
50,000 64,138 14,138 28.28
60,000 78,846 18,846 31.41
70,000 94,231 24,231 34.62
80,000 110,870 30,870 38.59
90,000 128,261 38,261 42.51
100,000 145,652 45,652 45.65
125,000 195,000 70,000 56.00
150,000 250,000 100,000 66.67
175,000 312,500 137,500 78.57
200,000 375,000 175,000 87.50
225,000 437,500 212,500 94.44
250,000 507,143 257,143 102.86
275,000 578,571 303,571 110.39
300,000 650,000 350,000 116.67
350,000 792,857 442,857 126.53
400,000 935,714 535,714 133.93
450,000 1,099,999 649,999 144.44
500,000 1,266,666 766,666 153.33
550,000 1,433,332 883,332 160.61
600,000 1,599,999 999,999 166.67
650,000 1,766,665 1,116,665 171.79
700,000 1,933,332 1,233,332 176.19
750,000 2,130,000 1,380,000 184.00
800,000 2,330,000 1,530,000 191.25
850,000 2,530,000 1,680,000 197.65
900,000 2,730,000 1,830,000 203.33
950,000 2,930,000 1,980,000 208.42
1,000,000 3,130,000 2,130,000 213.00

PREVIOUS GROSS GIFTS TOTALLING £100,000
value of asset transferred (after all tax) Combined value of asset and tax paid by donor Tax payable Tax payable as proportion of asset transferred
£ £ £ Per cent
20,000 28,462 8,462 42.31
30,000 43,846 13,846 46.15
40,000 60,435 20,435 51.09
50,000 77,826 27,826 55.65
60,000 95,217 35,217 58.69
70,000 114,500 44,500 63.57
80,000 134,500 54,500 68.13
90,000 155,000 65,000 72.22
100,000 177,222 77,222 77.22
125,000 236,875 111,875 89.50
150,000 299,375 149,375 99.58
175,000 361,875 186,875 106.79
200,000 427,857 227,857 113.93
225,000 499,286 274,286 121.90
250,000 570,714 320,714 128.29
275,000 642,143 367,143 133.51
300,000 713,571 413,571 137.86
350,000 856,428 506,428 144.69
400,000 1,015,833 615,833 153.96
450,000 1,182,499 732,499 162.78
500,000 1,349,166 849,166 169.83
550,000 1,515,832 965,832 175.61
600,000 1,682,499 1,082,499 180.42
650,000 1,849,165 1,199,165 184.49
700,000 2,039,000 1,339,000 191.29
750,000 2,239,000 1,489,000 198.53
800,000 2,439,000 1,639,000 204.88
850,000 2,639,000 1,789,000 210.47
900,000 2,839,000 1,939,000 215.44
950,000 3,039,000 2,089,000 219.89
1,000,000 3,239,000 2,239,000 223.90
PREVIOUS GROSS GIFTS TOTALLING £200,000
Value of asset transferred (after all tax) Combined value of asset and tax paid by donor Tax payable Tax payable as proportion of asset transferred
£ £ £ Per cent
20,000 40,000 20,000 100.00
30,000 61,111 31,111 103.70
40,000 83,333 43,333 108.33
50,000 106,250 56,250 112.50
60,000 131,250 71,250 118.75
70,000 156,250 86,250 123.21
80,000 181,250 101,250 126.56
90,000 206,250 116,250 129.17
100,000 231,250 131,250 131.25
125,000 293,750 168,750 135.00
150,000 364,286 214,286 142.86
175,000 435,714 260,714 148.98
200,000 507,143 307,143 153.57
225,000 578,571 353,571 157.14
250,000 650,000 400,000 160.00
275,000 721,428 446,428 162.34
300,000 792,857 492,857 164.29
350,000 958,333 608,333 173.81
400,000 1,124,999 724,999 181.25
450,000 1,291,666 841,666 187.04
500,000 1,458,332 958,332 191.67
550,000 1,624,998 1,074,998 195.45
600,000 1,791,665 1,191,665 198.61
650,000 1,990,000 1,340,000 206.15
700,000 2,190,000 1,490,000 212.86
750,000 2,390,000 1,640,000 218.67
800,000 2,590,000 1,790,000 223.75
850,000 2,790,000 1,940,000 228.24

Value of asset transferred (after all tax) Combined value of asset and tax paid by donor Tax payable Tax payable as proportion of asset transferred
£ £ £ Per cent.
900,000 2,990,000 2,090,000 232.22
950,000 3,190,000 2,240,000 235.79
1,000,000 3,390,000 2,390,000 239.00
1. The calculations, as before, are based on the assumption that the donor pays the tax and transfers the net amounts as in the left-hand columns.
2. It is assumed that all transfers are chargeable transfers (i.e. there are no exemption for the first £1,000 etc.).

Mr. Lawson

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the appropriate figures in columns 2, 3 and 4 of the table in the Written Answer of 6th February to the hon. Member for Blaby, assuming that it was the combined value of the asset and the tax paid by the donor which had appreciated in money value, and assuming the same set of capital transfer tax rates as before; and what would be the comparable figures (a) in the answer given on 6th February and (b) in the answer to the above Question, assuming that, in each instance, the recently announced reduced rates for lifetime gifts were to apply.

Dr. Gilbert,

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 14th February 1975; Vol. 886, c. 235], gave the following information:

TABLE 1
At CTT rates originally applicable to all transfers.
Value of asset transferred (after all tax) Combined value of asset and tax paid by donor CCT and CGT payable Tax payable as proportion of asset transferred
£ £ £ Per cent
20,000 26,194 6,194 30.97
30,000 41,986 11,986 39.95
40,000 59,526 19,526 48.81
50,000 78,988 28,988 57.98
60,000 100,194 40,194 66.99
70,000 123,182 53,182 75.97
80,000 148,224 68,224 85.28
90,000 176,002 86,002 95.56
100,000 205,955 105,955 105.95
125,000 285,474 160,474 128.38
150,000 364,993 214,993 143.33
175,000 444,513 269,513 154.01
200,000 524,032 324,032 162.02
225,000 603,552 378,552 168.25
250,000 689,773 439,773 175.91
275,000 780,652 505,652 183.87
300,000 871,532 571,532 190.51
350,000 1,053,290 703,290 200.94
400,000 1,235,049 835,049 208.76
450,000 1,440,889 990,889 220.20
500,000 1,652,941 1,152,941 230.59
550,000 1,864,992 1,314,992 239.09
600,000 2,077,044 1,477,044 246.17
650,000 2,289,095 1,639,095 252.17
700,000 2,501,147 1,801,147 257.31
750,000 2,746,917 1,996,917 266.26
800,000 3,001,379 2,201,379 275.17
850,000 3,255,841 2,404,841 283.04

The figures required are shown in the following tables.

Table 1 below is based on the assumption that capital gains tax at the full rate of 30 per cent. is chargeable on the gross value of the asset transferred; the rates of tax used are those originally applicable to all transfers but now applicable only to transfers on death.

Table 2 gives the corresponding figures to those given in my reply to the hon. Member of 6th February but using the recently announced lower rates for lifetime transfers.

Table 3 is on the corresponding basis to Table 1 but again using the newly announced lower rates.

Value of asset transferred (after all tax) Combined value of asset and tax paid by donor CCT and CGT payable Tax payable as proportion of asset transferred
£ £ £ Per cent.
900,000 3,510,303 2,610,303 290.03
950,000 3,764,765 2,814,765 296.29
1,000,000 4,019,227 3,019,227 301.92

TABLE 2
At new CTT rates applicable to lifetime transfer.
Value of asset transferred (after all tax) Combined value of asset and taxes paid by donor CTT and CGT payable Tax payable as proportion of asset transferred
£ £ £ %
20,000 25,716 5,716 28.58
30,000 39,455 9,455 31.52
40,000 53,686 13,686 34.21
50,000 68,312 18,312 36.62
60,000 83,369 23,369 38.95
70,000 98,592 28,592 40.85
80,000 114,203 34,203 42.75
90,000 130,197 40,197 44.66
100,000 146,713 46,713 46.71
125,000 192,951 67,951 54.36
150,000 243,596 93,596 62.40
175,000 300,710 125,710 71.83
200,000 364,149 164,149 82.07
225,000 433,457 208,457 92.65
250,000 502,765 252,765 101.11
275,000 572,073 297,073 108.03
300,000 649,906 349,906 116.64
350,000 806,379 456,379 130.39
400,000 962,851 562,851 140.71
450,000 1,119,324 669,324 148.74
500,000 1,299,070 799,070 159.81
550,000 1,479,352 929,352 168.97
600,000 1,659,634 1,059,634 176.61
650,000 1,839,916 1,189,916 183.06
700,000 2,020,198 1,320,198 188.60
750,000 2,200,480 1,450,480 193.40
800,000 2,413,347 1,613,347 201.67
850,000 2,626,963 1,776,963 209.05
900,000 2,840,578 1,940,578 215.62
950,000 3,054,194 2,104,194 221.49
1,000,000 3,267,809 2,267,809 226.78

TABLE 3
At new CTT rates applicable to lifetime transfers.
Value of asset transferred (after all tax) Combined value of asset and taxes paid by donor CTT and CGT payable Tax payable as proportion of asset transferred
£ £ £ Per cent
20,000 25,789 5,789 28.94
30,000 39,805 9,805 32.68
40,000 54,447 14,447 36.12
50,000 69,591 19,591 39.18
60,000 85,284 25,284 42.14
70,000 101,188 31,188 44.55
80,000 117,585 37,585 46.98
90,000 134,470 44,470 49.41
100,000 152,019 52,019 52.02
125,000 202,186 77,186 61.75
150,000 257,960 107,960 71.97
175,000 321,965 146,965 83.98
200,000 394,019 194,019 97.01
225,000 473,538 248,538 110.46
250,000 553,057 303,057 121.22
275,000 632,577 357,577 130.03
300,000 722,944 422,944 140.98
350,000 904,702 554,702 158.49
400,000 1,086,461 686,461 171.62

Value of asset transferred (after all tax) Combined value of asset and tax paid by donor CCT and CGT payable Tax payable as proportion of asset transferred
£ £ £ Per cent.
450,000 1,268,219 818,219 181.83
500,000 1,479,589 979,589 195.92
550,000 1,691,640 1,141,640 207.57
600,000 1,903,692 1,303,692 217.28
650,000 2,115,743 1,465,743 225.50
700,000 2,327,795 1,627,795 232.54
750,000 2,539,846 1,789,846 238.65
800,000 2,793,356 1,993,356 249.17
850,000 3,047,818 2,197,818 258.57
900,000 3,302,280 2,402,280 266.92
950,000 3,556,742 2,606,742 274.39
1,000,000 3,811,204 2,811,204 281.12

Mr. Trotter

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the minimum level of gift below which he intends that details need not be supplied on returns to the Inland Revenue.

Mr. Joel Barnett,

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 20th February 1975; Vol. 886, c. 472], gave the following information:

The basis for returns of capital transfers will be decided after the Report stage of the Finance Bill is complete.

Mr. Trotter

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why lawyers but not professional accountants are to be exempted from disclosing to the Revenue advice given to their clients regarding capital transfer tax.

Mr. Joel Barnett,

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 20th February 1975; Vol. 886, c. 472], gave the following information:

Certain communications between a client and his legal advisers are protected by the general law from disclosure in legal proceedings. This privilege does not extend to communications between accountants and their clients. The capital transfer tax provisions dealing with the power to obtain information have been drafted in the light of this privilege.

Mr. Trotter

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the proposed period between the making of a gift and (a) the due date for payment of capital transfer tax and (b) the making of a return to the Revenue in respect of the gift.

Mr. Joel Barnett,

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 20th February 1975; Vol. 886, c. 472], gave the following information:

The Finance Bill provides that the due date for payment of capital transfer tax on lifetime transfers will be six months after the end of the month in which the transfer was made. Chargeable lifetime transfers are to be reported to the Inland Revenue no later than 12 months from the end of the month in which the transfer was made. These matters are under consideration following the Committee stage of the Finance Bill.

Mr. Trotter

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why he has felt it necessary to set lower limits for gifts in consideration of marriage in respect of capital transfer tax than those in force under the estate duty legislation.

Mr. Joel Barnett,

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 20th February 1975; Vol. 886, c. 473], gave the following information:

I am considering the points raised in the debate about these limits in the Committee stage of the Finance Bill.