HC Deb 28 October 1971 vol 823 cc477-9W
Mr. Stratton Mills

asked the Minister of State for Defence how many men have been detained by the Army in each of the months August, September and October on the basis of suspicion of being a member of the Irish Republican Army, how many of these have subsequently been tried, how many released and how many interned.

Mr. G. Johnson Smith

The grounds of suspicion upon which the Army may be requested to assist the civil power by making arrests under the Special Powers Acts are a matter for the Northern Ireland authorities, as are the subsequent detention, internment, trial, or release of persons so arrested.

Mr. Stratton Mills

asked the Minister of State for Defence how many houses have been searched in Northern Ireland by the Army in each month of 1971.

Mr. G. Johnson Smith

I regret that information could not be made available in the form requested without disproportionate effort. The available information is as follows, covering both occupied and unoccupied houses:

Guns Rounds of Ammunition Pounds of Explosive
1st January–9th August 192 40,054 1,194
9th August–8th September 54 7,897 504
8th September–6th October 60 2,187 552½
6th–27th October 42 9,497 117½
Total 348 59,635 2,368

Mr. Chichester-Clark

asked the Minister of State for Defence whether he will arrange for soldiers serving in Northern Ireland to be enabled to make a limited number of weekly telephone calls to their families, free of charge.

M. G. Johnson Smith

My hon. Friend will be aware that some forty additional coin-operated telephone boxes have now been installed in unit lines for use by soldiers serving in Northern Ireland. We are seeing whether anything more can be done although, pending examination of the matter, it would not be right for me to raise any false hopes.

1st January–9th August 8,162
9th August–8th September 1,480
8th September–6th October 1,363
6th–27th October 1,342
Total 12,347

Mr. Stratton Mills

asked the Minister of State for Defence if he will arrange with the security forces to reorganise road blocks in Northern Ireland so that motorists while waiting in a queue of cars at a road block are unable to make a U-turn and go back in the direction in which they have come, or alternatively go down a side road.

Mr. G. Johnson Smith

Whenever possible road blocks are sited to make evasion difficult. When road blocks are set up for specific search operations, troops are provided in sufficient numbers to cover the approach route and ensure that no vehicle can avoid the search.

Mr. Stratton

Mills asked the Minister of State for Defence if he will list the total number of guns, ammunition, and explosives found by the security forces in each of the months July, August, September, and October.

Mr. G. Johnson Smith

I regret that the information could not be made available in the form requested without disproportionate effort. The available information is as follows.

Mr. Chichester-Clark

asked the Minister of State for Defence what estimate he has formed of the number of shots fired at the security forces in Northern Ireland from across the border in the week before 21st October; and whether he will make a statement.

Mr. G. Johnson Smith

300–350 in four incidents between 14th and 21st October, 1971, inclusive. Troops returned fire on two of these occasions, firing 160 rounds in all, in accordance with the instructions to which I referred in my Answer to the hon. Member for Belfast, North (Mr. Stratton Mills) on 21st October, 1971.—[Vol. 823, c.158.]

Mr. Stratton Mills

asked the Minister of State for Defence on how many occasions during July, August, September and October the Army has been fired on in Northern Ireland; and on how many occasions it has returned the fire.

Mr. G. Johnson Smith

I regret that the information is not available without disproportionate effort. Figures since 8th September are as follows:

incidents of shooting at the Army Incidents when the Army replied
8th September–6th October 245 102
6th–28th October 241 108

Mr. Stratton Mills

asked the Minister or State for Defence if he will make a statement on the circumstances in which the Army was called to the Students Union, Belfast, on 19th October.

Mr. G. Johnson Smith

At approximately 10.30 p.m. troops were requested, in aid of the civil power, to accompany and support officers of the Royal Ulster Constabulary, who I understand wished to interview Mr. Thomas McGill.

It was decided not to pursue Mr. McGill or the students—who numbered about 150—when they barricaded themselves in the building. and the security forces withdrew at about 4 a.m.

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