HC Deb 20 November 1925 vol 188 cc772-83W
Major HORE-BELISHA

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he will set out a table in parallel columns showing, rank for rank and rating for rating, the pay of those engaged before 1st October, 1925, and that of new entrants after the 4th October, 1925?

Mr. DAVIDSON

I will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the rates of pay of naval officers and ratings obtaining on 4th October, 1925, and on 5th October, 1925, for entrants on and after that date.

Following is the statement promised:

STATEMENT showing
(A) Daily rates of pay of Naval Officers and Ratings serving on 4th October, 1925, and
(B) Rates applicable to those entering after that date.
Rank. A. B.
Old Pay. New Pay.
£ s. d. £ s. d.
Acting Sub-Lieutenant 9 6 8 0
Mate 15 2 13 2
Lieutenant and On promotion 16 0 14 2
After 4 years 18 10 16 0
After 6 years 1 2 8 18 10
Mate (E) 18 0 16 0
Lieutenant (E) and Engineer Lieutenant On promotion 18 10 17 0
After 4 years 1 1 8 18 10
After 6 years 1 5 1 1 1 8
Instructor Lieutenant on entry 18 10 16 0
Instructor Lieutenant after 3 years 1 2 8 18 10
Chaplain on entry 18 10 16 0
Chaplain over 3 and under 6 years seniority 1 1 8 18 10
ROYAL MARINES
Lieutenant after 4 years from date of entry 16 0 14 2
Lieutenant after 8 years from date of entry 18 10 16 0
Lieutenant after 4 years from date of entry 18 10 16 0
Lieutenant after 10 years from date of entry 1 2 8 18 10
Seamen. Signals and W/T. Stokers and Mechanicians. Sick Berth. Writers and Supply.
(A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B)
s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d.
Boys 2nd Cl. 1 0 0 9 Sig Boy and Boy Tel. 1 9 1 3 Boy Wtr. 2 0 1 6
1st Cl. 1 9 1 3
Ordinary Ratings. Ord. Sea 2 9 2 0 Ord. Sig. and Ord. Tel. 2 9 2 0 Sto. 2nd 3 3 2 6 S.B.A. (Untrained) 2 9 2 0

Seamen Signals and W/T. Stockers and Mechanicians. Sick Berth Writers and Supply.
(A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B)
s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d.
A.B. Rates A.B. 4 0 3 0 Sig. and Tel. 4 3 3 3 Sto. 1st. 4 6 3 8 S.B.A. 4 3 3 3 Writer and Supply Asst. 4 6 3 6
After 3 Years 4 3 3 4 3 years 4 6 3 7 After 3 years 4 9 3 10 After 3 years 4 6 3 7
After 6 years (Man's time) 4 6 3 8 6 years (Man's time) 4 9 3 11 After 6 years (Man's time) 5 0 4 2 After 6 years (as such) 4 9 3 11
(See Note 2)
Leading Rates Lg. Sea. 5 3 4 4 Lg. Sig. and Lg. Tel. 5 9 4 10 Lg. Sto. 5 9 4 10 Lg. S.B.A. 5 6 4 10 Lg. Wtr. And L.S.A. 6 0 5 1
After 1 year as such if passed for P.O. 5 6 4 6 After 1 year as such if passed for P. O. 6 0 5 0 After 3 years as such 6 0 5 2 After 3 years as such if passed finally for P.O. 6 0 5 2
After 3 years as such 4 8 After 3 years as such 5 2
Petty Officers P.O. 7 0 6 0 Yeo. Sig. and P.O. Tel. 7 6 6 6 Sto. P.O. 7 6 6 6 S.B.P.O. 7 6 6 6 P.O. Wtr. And Supply P.O. 7 9 6 6
After 3 years as such 7 4 6 5 After 3 years as such and with Stokehold Cert. 7 10 6 11
After 6 years as such 7 8 6 10 After 1 year as such if recommended or after 3 years in any case 7 10 6 11 After 3 years as such 7 10 6 11 After 3 years as such 8 1 7 2
After 6 years (Stokehold Cert). 8 2 7 4 After 6 years as such 8 2 7 4
After 3 years from award of previous rate 8 2 7 4
Chief Petty Officers C.P.O. 8 6 7 6 Ch. Yeo. And G.P.O. Tel. 9 0 8 0 Ch. Sto. And Mech. 9 0 8 0 S.B.C.P.O. 9 0 8 0 C.P.O. Wtr. And Supply C.P.O. 9 3 8 3
(Triennial increments of 6d. a day) (Triennial increments of 6d. a day) (Half the number receive Senior Allowonce— 6d. extra) (Triennial increments of 6d. a day) Mechanicians receive 4 increments only (Triennial increments of 6d. a day (Triennial increments of 6d. a day)
Ch. Mech.
2nd Cl. 11 6 10 6
1st Cl. 12 6 11 6

Cooks. Officers' Stewards and Cooks. Blacksmiths. Artisans (except Ship-wrights). Artificers and Shipwrights.
(A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B)
s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d.
Boys Boy Servant (C. S. & N.C.S.) 1 9 1 3 1st year 1 0 0 9
2nd year 1 6 1 0
3rd year 2 0 1 6
4th year (See note 3) 2 6 2 0
Ordinary Ratings Assist. Cook 2 9 2 0 4th Cl. (C. S.) 3rd Cl. under 2 years (N.C.S.) 2 9 2 0
A.B. Ratings Cook 4 3 3 3 3rd Cl. (C.S.) 4 3 3 3
After 3 years 4 6 3 7 After 3 years 4 6 3 7
After 6 years 4 9 3 11 After 6 years (Man's time 3rd Cl. (N. C. S.) 4 9 3 11
After 2 years 4 3 3 3
After 3 years 4 6 3 7
After 6 years as such 4 9 3 11
Leading Ratings Leading Cook 5 9 4 10 2nd Cl. 5 9 4 10 5th Cl. 5 6 4 7 5th Cl. 5 3 4 4 5th Cl. 6 6 5 7
After 3 years as such 6 0 5 2 After 3 years as such (C. S. and N. C. S.) 6 0 5 2 4th Cl. 6 3 4th Cl. 6 0
Petty Officers P.O. Ck. 7 6 6 6 1st Cl. 7 6 6 6 4th Cl. 7 8 4th Cl. 7 5 4th Cl. 8 0
After 3 years as such 7 10 6 11 After 3 years as such 7 10 6 11 3rd Cl. 8 0 7 0 3rd Cl. 7 9 6 9
2nd Cl. 8 4 7 5 2nd Cl. 8 1 7 2
After 6 years as such 8 2 7 4 After 6 years as such (C. S. & N. C. S.) 8 2 7 4 1st Cl. 8 8 7 10 1st Cl. 8 5 7 7
After 3 years as such 9 0 8 2 After 3 years as such 8 9 7 11

Cooks. Officers' Stewards and Cooks. Blacksmiths. Artisans (except Shipwrights). Artificers and Shipwrights.
(A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B)
Chief Petty Officers C. P. O. Ck. s. d. s. d. Chief (C. S. & N. C. S.) s. d. s. d. Chief After 3 years as such After 6 years s. d. s. d. Chief After 3 years as such After 6 years s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d.
9 0 8 0 9 0 8 0 10 0 9 0 9 9 8 9 4th C1. 9 6
(Triennial increments of 6d. a day) (Triennial increments of 6d. a day) 10 6 9 6 10 3 9 3 3rd Cl. 10 0 9 0
2nd Cl. 10 6 9 6
11 0 10 0 10 9 9 9 1st Cl. 11 0 10 0
Chief
2nd Cl. 11 6 10 6
1st Cl. 12 6 11 6
Sailmakers. Regulating Branch. Royal Marines. Band Ranks, R.N. School of Music.
(A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B)
s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d.
Boys Boy Bugler 0 9 Band Boy 1 0 0 9
Boy Musician
After 1 year's service. 1 3 After 1 year's service. 1 9 1 3
(See Note 4).
Ordinary Ratings Marine, Musician or Bugler. 2 9 2 0 Musician 2 9 2 0
(See Note 4).
A.B. Ratings. Marine ready for embarkation; 4 0 3 0 Musician, after 1 year as such. 4 0 3 0
Musician or Bugler after 1 year's service. After 3 years 4 3 3 4
After 6 years 4 6 3 8
After 3 years 4 3 3 4 (Man's time).
After 6 years 4 6 3 8
(Man's time).

Sailmakers. Regulating Branch. Royal Marines. Band Ranks, R. N. School of Music.
(A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B) (A) (B)
s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d. s. d.
Leading Ratings Sailmaker's Mate 5 9 4 10 Corporal 5 6 4 7 Band Corporal 5 6 4 7
After 3 years as such 6 0 5 2 After 3 years as such 5 9 4 11 After 3 years as such 5 9 4 11
Petty Officers. Sailmaker 7 6 6 6 Regulating P.O. 8 0 7 0 Sergeant 7 0 6 0 Bandmaster, 2nd Cl. 7 0 6 0
After 3 years as such 7 10 6 11 After 3 years as such 8 4 7 5 After 3 years as such 7 4 6 5 After 3 years as such 7 4 6 5
After 6 years as such 8 2 7 4 After 6 years as such 8 8 7 10 After 6 years as such 7 8 6 10 After 6 years as such 7 8 6 10
Chief Petty Officers Chief 9 0 8 0 Master-at-Arms 9 6 8 6 Colour Sergeant, Hospital Staff Sergeant. 8 6 7 6 Bandmaster 1st Cl. 8 6 7 6
(Triennial increments of 6d. a day). Triennial increments of 6d. a day up to 10s. 6d. under new scale; no limit under old scale) After 3 years 9 0 8 0 After 3 years 9 0 8 0
After 6 years as such). (See Note 4). 9 6 8 6 After 6 years 9 6 8 6
Armourer Sergt. 10 0 9 0
Master-at-Arms at Naval Detention Quarters (inclusive rate). 11 6 106 After 3 years as such. 10 6 9 6
Staff Sergeants 10 0 9 0 Company Sergt.-Major. 10 0 9 0
(Triennial increments of 6d. a day.) (Triennial increments of 6d. a day.)
Armourer Q.M.S. 10 6 9 6
(Triennial increments of 6d. a day.)

A. B.
Royal Naval Shore Wireless Service. (See Note 5.) s. d. s. d.
Telegraphist (S.W.S.) 4 6 3 7
Leading Telegraphist (S.W.S.) 5 5 4 6
Petty Officer Telegraphist (S.W.S.) 6 9 5 9
After 4 years 7 0 6 0
Royal Naval Shore Signal Service.
Signalman (S.S.S.) 6 10 5 10
After 2½ years in the rating, if passed for Petty Officer (S.S.S.) 7 4 6 4
Petty Officer (S.S.S.) 8 7 7 7
After 2½ years in the rating, if passed for Chief Officer (S.S.S.) 9 1 8 1
Royal Marine Police.
Grade III 6 10 5 10
After 2½ years' service, if passed for Grade II 7 4 6 4
Grade II 8 7 7 7
After 2½ years' service, if passed for Grade I 9 1 8 1
Grade I (under consideration)
Royal Naval and Royal Marine Recruiters.
The flat rate of pay for Pensioner Recruiters appointed in future, and of present Pensioner Recruiters on re-appointment, will be 9s. a day.
The flat rate for Pensioner Recruiters appointed between 11th July, 1922, and 4th October, 1925, was 10s. a day.
NOTE 1.—Non-Continuous Service rates of pay, where applicable, in the Seaman, Stoker and Sailmaker Branches are sixpence less than the Continuous Service rates. Special Service rates where applicable are the same as N.C.S. rates.
NOTE 2.—Sick Berth Branch. The increments in the A.B. rating are conditional upon the man having passed finally for Leading Sick Berth Attendant.
NOTE 3.—The rates for Boys shown in the "Artificers" Column relates to Artificer Apprentices only. Shipwright Apprentices receive the scale of pay applicable to Dockyard Apprentices.
NOTE 4.—Boy Buglers receive the 1s. 3d. rate on completing training ready for embarkation or after one year's service. Marines receive a daily rate of 3s. 6d. (old) 2s. 9d. (new) on completion of depôt training or after one year's service, whichever occurs first. Drum Majors and Bugle Majors receive same rates as Colour Sergeants.
Miscellaneous Ratings.—Seamen Riggers formerly received 8s. l0d. a day; now reduced to 7s. l1d. a day.
Ship's Musician.—Old rate, 5s., after 3 years as such, 5s. 3d.; new rate, 4s. 1d., after 3 years as such, 4s. 5d.
NOTE 5 —In the case of the Shore Wireless Service the new rates apply only to men who enter the Royal Navy after 4th October, 1925.