HC Deb 10 December 1925 vol 189 cc676-86W
Sir B. FALLE

asked the Parliamentary Secretary to the Admiralty whether naval ratings who were serving prior to the 4th October, 1925, who are permitted to change their ratings will receive the Jerram scale of pay in their new ratings or the new scales laid in Admiralty Fleet Order 2859/1925, seeing that such ratings will not have interrupted their service engagements?

Mr. DAVIDSON

The old scales of pay will be applicable except that ratings transferring to the artificer, shipwright and artisan branchei3 must accept the new grading and the new rates of pay and men transferring to the writer branch must accept advancement in vacancies instead of automatic advancement.

Mr. SHORT

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty the daily rates of pay of the various grades of officers and men serving in the Navy and the rates operative in 1913?

Mr. DAVIDSON

I will circulate in the Official Report a table showing the daily rates of pay of naval officers and ratings operative in 1913. The current rates are shown in the Navy Estimates for 1925–26 as modified in the Official report of 20th November, 1925, columns 772–784.

Following is the table promised:

DAILY BATE OF FULL PAY OF NAVAL OFFICERS AND RATINGS (1913).
RANK. £ s. d.
Admiral of the Fleet 6 0 0
Admiral 5 0 0
Vice-Admiral 4 0 0
Rear-Admiral 3 0 0
Commodore of the First Class 3 0 0
Captain of the Fleet (not allowed Table Money) 3 0 0
Captains:
To the first 80 1 13 0
To the next 80 1 7 6
To the remainder 1 2 6
Commanders 1 2 0
Lieutenants:
On promotion 0 10 0
After 4 years 0 11 0
After 6 years 0 12 0
After 8 years 0 13 0
After 10 years 0 14 0
After 12 years 0 15 0
After 14 years 0 10 0
Mates (Acting or confirmed) 0 8 0
Sub-Lieutentant or Acting Sub-Lieutenant serving afloat who has completed all examinations for the rank of Lieutenant 0 5 0
Acting Sub-Lieutenant 0 3 6
Midshipman 0 1 9
Staff Captain 1 8 0
Lieutenants on the Supplementary List entered prior to 1st April, 1913:
Under 8 years' seniority 0 10 0
Of 8 years' seniority and 6 years' service, of which 3 have been in a Ship of War at Sea 0 12 0
RANK. £ s. d.
Of 12 yeans' seniority and 9 years' service, of which 6 have been in a Ship of War at Sea 0 14 0
Mess Allowance to each of the above 0 2 0
Note.—This Allowance is part of these Officers' Substantive Pay, and is not-subject to reduction under Article 829 of the King's Regulations.
Lieutenants and Sub-Lieutenants on the Supplementary List entered after 7th March, 1913, receive Full Pay at the rates provided for Officers of those ranks in the Royal Navy together with Mess Allowance at 2s. and 1s. a day respectively in accordance with Note above.
Chaplain and Naval Instructor:
Under 5 years' service 0 12 0
After 5 Years Service 0 13 0
After 8 years' service 0 14 0
After 11years' service 0 15 0
After 14 years' service. 0 16 0
After 17 years' service () 17 0
After 20 years' service 0 18 0
After 21 years' service 0 19 0
After 22 years' service 1 0 0
After 23 years' service 1 1 0
After 24 years' service l 2 0
Engineer Near-Admiral 3 0 0
Engineer Captain 1 15 0
Engineer Captain after 1 year 1 17 6
Engineer Captain 2 years 2 0 0
Engineer Commander 1 4 0
After 2 years 1 7 0
After 4 years 1 10 0
After 6 years 1 13 0
Engineer Lieutenant 0 10 0
After 2 years 0 11 0
After 4 years 0 12 0
After 6 years 0 13 0
After 8 years, 0 16 0
After 10 years 0 17 0
After 12 years 0 18 0
After 14 years 1 0 0
Engineer Sub-Lieutenant 0 7 6
Paymaster-in-Chief 1 18 0
Fleet Paymaster:
On promotion 1 1 0
Of 1 year's seniority 1 2 0
of 2 years' seniority 1 3 0
Of 3 year's seniority 1 1 0
Of 4 year's seniority 1 2 0
Of 5 year's seniority 1 6 0
Of 6 year's seniority 1 7 0
Of 7 year's seniority 1 7 0
Of 8 year's seniority 1 9 0
Of 9 year's seniority 1 10 0
Of 10 year's seniority 1 11 0
Of 11 year's seniority 1 12 0
Of 12 year's seniority 1 13 0
Staff Paymaster:
On promotion 0 18 0
Of 2 years' seniority 0 19 0
RANK. £ s. d.
Paymaster:
On promotion 0 15 0
Of 1 year's seniority 0 16 0
Of 3 years' seniority 0 17 0
Assistant Paymaster:
On promotion 0 5 0
Of 2 years' seniority 0 7 0
Of 4 years' seniority 0 10 0
Of 8 years' seniority 0 11 0
Of 10 years' seniority 0 12 0
Of 12 years' seniority 0 13 0
Clerk 0 4 0
Assistant Clerk 0 2 6
The following are the rates of pay of Accountant Officers entered prior to 1st October, 1910, who elected to remain on the old scale of pay in accordance with the provisions of the Order in Council of 13th October, 1910: —
Paymaster-in-Chief 1 18 0
Fleet Paymaster, Staff Paymaster, Paymaster:
Tinder 5 years' service 0 14 0
After 5 years' service 0 15 0
After 8 years' service 0 16 0
After 11 years' service. 0 17 0
After 14 years' service 0 19 0
After 17 years' service 1 1 0
After 20 years' service 1 2 6
After 21 years' service 1 4 0
After 22 years' service 1 5 6
After 23 years' service 1 7 0
After 24 years' service 1 8 6
After 25 years' service 1 10 0
After 26 years' service 1 11 6
After 27 years' service 1 13 0
Assistant Paymaster:
Under 3 years' service 0 5 0
After 3 years' service 0 7 0
After 4 years' service 0 8 0
After 6 years' service 0 9 0
After 9 years' service 0 10 0
After 10 years' service 0 10 6
After 11 years' service 0 11 0
After 12 years' service 0 11 6
Clerk 0 4 0
Assistant Clerk 0 2 6
Surgeon-General 1,300 0 0
(a year)
Deputy Surgeon-General 2 5 0
Fleet Surgeon:
On promotion 1 7 0
After 2 years 1 8 0
After 4 years 1 10 0
After 6 years 1 11 0
After 8 years 1 13 0
After 10 years 1 15 0
Staff Surgeon:
On promotion 1 0 0
After 2 years 1 1 0
After 4 years 1 4 0
After 6 years 1 5 0
Surgeon:
On entry 0 14 0
After 2 years 0 15 0
After 4 years 0 17 0
After 6 years 0 18 0
RANK. £ s. d.
The following are the rates of pay of Medical Officers entered before the 9th. August 1911, who elected to remain on the old scale of pay in accordance with the provisions of Order in Council of the 8th August, 1911:
Surgeon-General 1,300 0 0
(a year)
Deputy Surgeon-General 2 2 0
Fleet Surgeon:
On promotion 1 7 0
After 4 years' Full-pay service in rank 1 10 0
After 8 years' Full-pay service in rank 1 13 0
After 12 years' Full-pay service in rank 1 16 0
Staff Surgeon:
On promotion 1 0 0
After 4 years' Full-pay service in rank 1 4 0
Surgeon:
On entry 0 14 0
After 4 years' Full-pay service in rank 0 17 0
Lieutenant and Carpenter Lieutenant promoted from Commissioned Warrant or Warrant Rank (excepting those promoted for acts of gallantry or daring):
On promotion 0 13 0
After 2 years' service 0 13 6
After 4 years' service 0 14 0
After 6 years' service 0 14 6
After 8years' service 0 15 0
Commissioned Warrant Officers:
On promotion 0 10 0
After 2 years' service 0 10 6
After 4 years' service 0 11 0
After 6 years' service 0 11 6
After 8 years' service 0 12 0
Gunner, Boatswain and Warrant Telegraphist:
On promotion 0 6 0
After 5 years' service 0 7 0
After 10 years' service 0 8 0
After 15 years' service 0 9 0
Carpenter:
On promotion 0 7 0
After 5 years' service 0 8 0
After 10 years' service 0 9 0
Engineer Lieutenants promoted from Commissioned Warrant or Warrant Rank:
On promotion 0 14 6
After 2 years' service 0 15 0
After 4 years' service 0 15 6
After 6 years' service 0 16 0
After 8 years' service 0 16 6
Chief Artificer Engineers, Comsioned Mechanicians, Commissioned Electricians and Chief Schoolmasters:
On promotion 0 11 6
After 2 years' service 0 12 0
After 4 years' service 0 12 6
After 6 years' service 0 13 0
After 8 years' service 0 13 6
RANK. £ s. d.
Artificer Engineers and Warrant Electricians:
On promotion 0 8 6
After 5 years' service 0 9 6
After 10 years' service 0 10 6
Warrant Mechanicians:
On promotion 0 7 6
After 5 years' service 0 9 0
After 10 years' service 0 10 6
Head Wardmaster:
On promotion 0 6 0
After 5 years' service 0 7 0
After 10 years' service 0 8 0
After 15 years' service 0 9 0
Head Schoolmasters:
On promotion 0 8 6
After 5 years' service 0 9 6
After 10 years' service 0 10 6
After 15 years' service 0 11 0
Warrant Writer, Chief Master-at-Arms and Warrant Armourer:
On promotion 0 7 0
After 5 years' service 0 8 6
After 10 years' service 0 10 0
Head Steward:
On promotion 0 8 0
After 5 years' service 0 9 0
After 10 years' service 0 10 0
Instructor of Cookery:
On promotion 0 6 0
After 5 years' service 0 7 0
After 10 years' service 0 8 0
MILITARY BRANCH.
Ratings. Continuous service Non-Continuous service
s. d. s. d.
Boy:
2nd Class* 0 6 —
1st Class* 0 7 —
Ordinary Seaman* 1 3 1 1
Able Seaman 1 8 1 5
After 6 years' man's service 1 11 —
Leading Seaman 2 2 1 7
After 3 years is passed for Petty Officer 2 4 1 7
Petty Officer 3 0 1 11
After 3 years 3 2 1 11
After 6 years 3 4 1 11
Chief Petty Officer 3 8 2 4
After 3 years 4 0 2 6
After 6 years 4 4 2 6
Signal Boy* or Boy Telegraphist* 0 7 —
Ordinary Signalman* or Ordinary Telegraphist* 1 3 —
Signalman or Telegraphist 1 11 —
After 6 years' man's service 2 2 —
Leading Signalman 2 6 —
After 1 year, if passed for Yeoman 2 10 —
Leading Telegraphist 2 6 —
After 1 year, if passed the approved standard 2 10 —
Ratings. Continuous service Non-Continuous service
s. d. s. d.
Yeoman of Signals or Petty Officer Telegraphist 3 4 —
After 1 year, if recommended, or after 4 years in any case 3 8 —
After 3 years from date of receiving 3s. 8d 4 0 —
chief Yeoman of Signals or O.P.O. Telegraphist 4 4† —
After 3 years 4 7† —
After 6 years 4 10‡ —
Sailmaker's Mate 2 2 —
After 3 years 2 4 —
Sailmaker (P.O.) 2 9 —
After 3 years 3 0 —
After 6 years 3 3 —
ENGINEER BRANCH.
Stoker, 2nd Class* 1 8 1 5
Stoker, 1st Class 2 1 1 9§
After 6 years' man's service 2 4 —
Acting Leading Stoker 2 8 —
Leading Stoker 2 8 —
After 3 years 2 10 —
Stoker Petty Officer 3 2 —
After 3 years 3 4 —
After 6 years 3 6 —
Chief Stoker (C.P.O) 3 10 —
After 3 years 4 4 —
After 6 years 4 10 —
After 9 years 5 4 —
After 12 years 5 10 —
Mechanician (O.P.O.):
Under 3 years' service as such 4 6 —
Over 3 years' service 5 0 —
Over 6 years' service 5 6 —
Over 9 years' service 6 0 —
Over 12 years' service 6 6 —
Boy Artificer:
1st year* 0 6 —
2nd year* 0 7 —
3rd year* 0 8 —
4th year* 0 9 —
Engine Boom Artificer, 5th Class* 3 0 —
Engine Boom Artificer (C.P.O.):
4th Class 5 6 —
3rd Class 5 9 —
2nd Class 6 0 —
1st Class (provided he has engaged for further term of 10 years) 6 6 —
Chief E.R.A. (C.P.O.):
2nd Class 7 0 —
1st Class 7 6 —
ARTISAN BRANCH.
Carpenter's Crew 2 6 2 1
After 3 years 2 9 —
Leading Carpenter's
Crew 2 11 2 5
Joiner T (P.O.) 3 2 —
After 3 years 3 6 —
After 6 years 3 10 —
Shipwright (O.S.) 4 0 3 9
Rating. Continuous Service. Non-continuous Service.
s. d. s. d.
Shipwright, 3rd Class 4 0 —
Shipwright, 2nd Class (P.O.) 4 6 —
After 3 years 4 9 —
Shipwright, 1st Class (P.O.) 6 0 —
After 3 years 5 3 —
Chief Ship w right (C.P.O.) 5 6 —
After 3 years 5 9 —
After 6 years 6 0 —
After 9 years 6 3 —
Blacksmith's Mate 2 9 2 3
After 3 years, if passed Blacksmith 2 11 —
After 6 years, if passed Blacksmith 3 1 —
Blacksmith (P.O.):
Under 3 years as such 3 4 2 0
After 3 years as such 3 8 2 10||
After 6 years as such 4 0 —
Plumber's Mate, on entry 2 7 2 2
After 3 years, if passed Plumber 2 9 —
After 6 years, if passed Plumber 2 11 —
Plumber (P.O.) 3 2 2 9
After 3 years 3 6 —
After 6 years 3 10 —
Painter, 2nd Class, on entry 2 7 2 2
After 3 years, if passed Painter 2 9 —
After 6 years, if passed Painter 2 11 —
Painter, 1st Class (P.O.) 3 2 2 9
After 3 years 3 6 —
After 6 years 3 10 —
Cooper's Grew 2 6 2 3
Second Cooper 2 11 2 7
Cooper (P.O.) 3 2 2 11
After 3 years 3 6 —
After 6 years 3 10 —
Armourer's Crew:
On entry 2 6 —
After 3 years 2 9 —
Armourer's Mate 3 0 —
After 3years 3 3 —
After 6 years, if qualified for Armourer 3 6 —
Armourer (P.O.) 4 0 2 9
Chief Armourer (C.P.O.) 4 6 —
After 3 years 5 3 —
After 6 years 6 0 —
Electrical Artificer (C.P.O.):
4th Class 5 6 —
3rd Class 5 9 —
2nd Class 6 0 —
1st Class (provided he has engaged for further term to complete time for pension) 6 6 —
Chief Electrical Artificer (C.P.O.):
2nd Class 7 0 —
1st Class 7 6 —
Rating. Continuous Service. Non-continuous Service.
MEDICAL BRANCH.
s. d. s. d.
Sick Berth Attendant:
During training* 1 6 —
After training 2 0 —
After 3 years, if passed for 2nd S.B.S. 2 3 —
2nd Sick Berth Steward 2 6 —
After 3 years, if passed for S.B.S. 2 9 —
Sick Berth Steward (P.O.) 3 2 —
After 3 years 3 6 —
After 6 years 3 10 —
After 9 years 4 2 —
Chief Sick Berth Steward (O.P.O.) 4 6 —
After 2 years 5 0 —
ACCOUNTANT BRANCH.
Boy Writer* 1 0 —
Third Writer 2 0 —
Second Writer 3 3 —
First Writer (P.O.) 4 3 —
Chief Writer (C.P.O.) 5 0 —
After 4 years 5 6 —
After 8 years 6 0 —
Ship's Steward's Boy* 0 7 —
Ship's Steward's Assistant under 3 years, or if failed to pass for Second Ship's Steward 1 6 —
After 3 years, if passed for Second Ship's Steward 2 3 —
After 6 years, if passed for Second Ship's Steward 2 9 —
Second Ship's Steward (P.O.) 3 3 —
Ship's Steward (C.P.O.) 3 6 —
After 4 years 4 0 —
After 8 years 5 0 —
After 12 years 6 0 —
Cooks.
Second Cook's Male* 1 8 —
Cook's Mate 2 0 —
Leading Cook's Mate 2 6 —
After 3 years 2 9 —
Ship's Cook (P.O.) 3 0 —
After 3 years 3 4 —
Chief Ship's Cook (C.P.O.) 3 10 —
After 3 years 4 1 —
After 6 years 4 4 —
After 9 years 4 7 —
After 12 years 4 10 —
POLICE.
Ship's Corporal, 2nd Class (P.O.) 2 8 —
Ship's Corporal, 1st Class (P.O.) 3 4 —
After 3 years 3 7 —
After 6 years 3 10 —
Master-at-Arms (C.P.O.) 4 4 —
After 3 years 4 10 —
After 6 years 5 4 —
After 9 years 6 0 —
Rating. Continuous Service. Non-continuous Service.
s. d. s. d.
Master-at-Arms serving at Naval Detention Quarters receive pay at the rate of 6s. a day, inclusive, in lieu of substantive and non-substantive pay and badges 6 0 —
Bandsman:
Under 3 years' service as such 1 4 1 4
Over 3 years' service as such 1 7 1 7
Band Corporal 2 0 2 0
Bandmaster (O.P.O.):
Under 4 years' service as such 2 5 2 6
Over 4 years' service as such 2 8 2 8
Chief Bandmaster (C.P.O.):
On appointment 2 11 2 11
After 3 years' service as such 3 5 3 5
Ship's Musician 2 0 2 0
Stewards and Cooks, Officers':
Boy Servant* — 1 0
Officers' Steward and Officers' Cook:
3rd class, under 3 years' service — 1 3
3rd class, over 3 years' service — 1 0
2nd class, under 3 years' service — 1 9
2nd class, over 3 years' service — 2 0
1st class, under 3 years' service — 2 3
1st class, over 3 years' service — 2 6
Officers' Chief Steward — 3 0
Officers' Chief Cook — 3 0
Captain's and Cabin Steward — 3 0
Captain's and Cabin Cook — 3 0
General Messman — 3 0
Tailor — 1 6
After 6 years — 1 0
Shoemaker — 1 6
After 6 years — 1 9
Keeper and Steward of Royal Cabins in H.M. Yacht "Alexandra":
On appointment 4 6 —
After 4 years 5 6 —
After 8 years 6 6 —
Naval Schoolmaster* (C.P.O.):
On appointment 5 6 —
After 4 years' service as such 6 0 —
After 8 years' service as such 7 6 —
Secdie* — 1 0
Rating. Continuous Service. Non-continuous Service.
s. d. s. d.
Second Tindal of Seedies — 1 2
Tindal of Seedies (P.O. in Battleships or Cruisers) — 1 5
Krooman* — 1 0
Second Head Krooman — 1 4
Head Krooman:
In Battleships or Cruisers (P.O.) — 1 11
In other Ships — 1 8
*Not entitled to Good Conduct Pay or Badges.
† Half the number to receive 6d. extra.
‡ Payable only if qualified to take charge of a stokehold when steaming.
§ Special Service Stokers 1st Class, 1s. 10d. a day.
|| After 5 years service.

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