§ Lieut.-Colonel FREMANTLEasked the Minister of Transport whether he will obtain and supply further details relating to the numbers using the workmen's trains from Enfield town in 1913 and in 1919 beyond the particulars given for selected hours in the Report of the Rates Advisory Committee, page 7, giving the dates of the enumeration and the numbers travelling at the various times at the various workmen's and cheap fares in the following form: Time of train from Enfield town; Number at each fare (2d.), (3d.), (7½d)?
§ Sir E. GEDDESI would refer the hon. and gallant Member to the report of the proceedings of the Rates Advisory Committee on the 23rd July (of which I am sending him a copy) where, on page 277 full details are given of the numbers of passengers conveyed from Enfield by workmen's and other cheap trains.
§ Lieut.-Colonel FREMANTLEasked the Minister of Transport whether he agrees with the statement by Mr. Childers, as Chancellor of the Exchequer, in his Budget speech of 1883, and with 64W the Report of the Royal Commission on Housing of the Working Classes, 1885, that under the Cheap Trains Act, 1883, a bargain was struck between the nation And the railway companies; whether he is aware that the housing scheme of the London County Council for the erection of 29,000 houses on the outskirts of London has been initiated with this bargain as an essential basis; and whether, in any increase of fares that he may sanction, he will ensure that the bargain is maintained and the general relation between cheap early fares and usual day fares continued?
§ Sir E. GEDDESThis question is fully-dealt with in the Report of the Rates Advisory Committee (Cmd. Paper 857, page 5). There is no general relationship to-day between ordinary fares and workmen's fares, as the latter are on no clearly defined basis. The final part of the question, therefore, docs not arise.