§ Mr. PARKESasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether his attention has been called to the custom in the gun trade for a skilled artisan to rent a shop or part of a shop in a factory, to engage, dismiss, and pay his own labour, while to all intents and purposes he is a tenant, and to the fact that in some cases he does in the shop work for other manufacturers besides the one who owns the factory; and will he say whether this man, under the National Insurance Bill, will be an employé or an employer, and will he have to pay the employers' contributions for the men he directly employs; will he also give the same information as to men in the same trade commonly called outworkers, who have their own little workshop in respect of which they are responsible for compliance with the Factory and Workshop Acts, and who do work for a number of employers and engage, dismiss, and pay their own labour; and similar information as to outworkers in the same trade who work for only one firm?
§ Mr. LLOYD GEORGEI fear it is quite impossible to say how the First Clause and the Third Schedule to the Bill will be interpreted in every variety of particular case. The case of a person working under the general control and management of some person other than his immediate employer is dealt with in paragraph 5 of the Third Schedule.