§ Mr. Giles Shawasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will provide a
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£ million at 1978 survey prices 1977–78 1978–79 1979–80 1980–81 1981–82 1. Defence— Defence Budget −64 −100 −9 −20 — 2. Overseas aid and other services— Overseas representation −14 −12 −11 −8 −7 Overseas aid +29 −17 — — — Contributions to the EEC etc. +22 −15 −128 −119 −127 Miscellaneous −2 — +3 +4 +4 +35 −44 −136 −123 −130 3. Agriculture, fisheries, food and forestry— Market regulation and production support −32 +35 +199 +124 +120 Support for capital and other improvements −4 −5 +8 +9 +5 Support for the fishing industry −6 −7 −1 −1 −1 Forestry −18 — +1 +2 +2 Food subsidies +14 +8 — — — Miscellaneous −10 −11 −8 −7 — −56 +20 +199 +127 +126 4. Trade, industry, energy and employment— Regional support and regeneration −60 −62 −37 −27 −42 Industrial innovation −20 −16 −2 +5 +6 General support for industry −118 −166 −19 −19 −16 Support for nationalised industries (other than transport industries) −4 +2 +16 +4 +4 International trade −103 +138 −34 −24 −109 Functioning of the labour market −126 −193 +163 +404 +436 Miscellaneous +5 +2 +6 +2 −1 −426 −295 +93 +345 +278 5. Government lending to nationalised industries −709 −390 −q280 −680 −510 6. Roads and transport— Motorways and trunk roads −27 −68 −33 −3 −4 Local transport −43 +17 +16 −3 −2 Central government subsidies to trans port industries −67 −36 — — +3 Ports and shipping −16 +8 +12 +4 — Civil aviation −10 −6 −7 +2 +4 Other transport services −10 −7 −1 — — −173 −92 −13 — +1 7. Housing— Subsidies and other current −65 +10 +80 +90 +108 Investment and improvement grants +73 −204 −144 −165 −212 Total sales and local authority net lending −92 −40 −66 −48 −25 Grants and net lending to housing associations +1 +5 −51 −1 +1 Savings bonus and loans scheme for first time purchases (net) — — — −30 +14 −83 −229 −181 −154 −114 detailed list of the other changes, in each programme, in table 5, 10 of Cmnd. 7439.
§ Mr. Joel BarnettThe information is as follows:
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£ million at 1978 survey prices 1977–78 1978–79 1979–80 1980–81 1981–82 8. Other environmental services— Water services— −21 −24 −18 −17 −17 Land drainage and flood protection −65 −13 +6 +22 +8 British waterways board −1 — — +5 +5 Local environmental services +177 +266 +160 +135 +129 Urban programme −13 −63* +33 +40 +44 Community ownership of development land −14 −30 −23 −27 −21 Central and miscellaneous services −12 +8 +2 +5 +6 +51 +144 +160 +163 +154 9. Law, order and protective services— Administration of justice −17 −9 +1 +2 +19 Treatment of offenders −8 +5 +11 +8 +7 General protective services −57 −32 −8 +4 +11 Community services −2 −2 — +5 +8 Miscellaneous −3 −2 +1 +3 +3 −87 −40 +5 +22 +48 10. Education and libraries, science and arts— Schools +19 −32 +91 +80 +82 Higher and further education −51 −60 −43 −40 −48 Libraries −4 −3 −7 −3 −6 Miscellaneous educational services, research and administration −28 −22 −17 −13 −9 Research councils etc. −7 — — — — Arts −1 +9 +13 +10 +10 −72 −108 +37 +34 +29 11. Health and personal social services— Hospitals and community health services −23 −1 +81 +57 +55 Family practitioners −21 +1 +9 +8 +9 Other health services −10 −2 +7 +12 +16 Personal social services −28 −14 +1 +6 +7 Central and miscellaneous services −24 +2 — — — −106 −14 +98 +83 +87 * Includes £58 million transferred to other programmes. 12. Social security— Pension benefits: national insurance +79 +88 +73 +16 −42 other −10 −37 −33 −23 −25 Supplementary benefit −68 −18 +10 +10 +74 Family benefits −18 −72 −93 −72 −52 Other non-pension benefits: national insurance −25 −159 −57 +10 +106 Administration and miscellaneous ser vices −33 −31 −9 −2 +6 Miscellaneous +4 — +11 −3 −3 −71 −229 −98 −64 +64 13. Other public services— Economic and financial administration −22 −24 — — — Records, registrations and surveys −2 −4 −2 −4 −6 Miscellaneous −3 −3 −2 −3 −5 −27 −31 −4 −7 −11
£ million at 1978 survey prices 1977–78 1978–79 1979–80 1980–81 1981–82 14. Common services— Office and general accommodation services +10 −6 — −1 +4 Stationery and printing −9 −12 −10 −8 −8 Computers and telecommunications +1 — — +5 +10 Civil Superannuation −17 −3 −1 −2 −4 Rates on Government property −12 — — +4 +8 Miscellaneous −3 −1 −1 +1 −1 −30 −22 −12 −1 +9 15. Northern Ireland— Agriculture, fisheries, food and forestry −21 +10 +19 +6 — Trade, industry and employment −5 +33 +5 +17 +21 Fuel −29 −33 −10 +2 — Roads and Transport −1 −2 +10 +11 +5 Housing +10 −15 −26 −22 −13 Education and libraries, science and arts −1 −8 +1 +1 +1 Social security −2 +4 +7 +9 +18 Common services −4 −4 −1 −1 — Miscellaneous −7 −7 +8 +4 +5 −60 −22 +13 +27 +37
§ Mr. Giles Shawasked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish the figure of total public expenditure planned for 1977–78 in Cmnd. 5519, so that it is (a) redefined to become comparable with the most recent definition and (b) revalued to 1978 survey prices.
§ Mr. Joel BarnettI cannot say what the previous Administration's plans for 1977–78 would have been if these had been drawn up using the present definition of public expenditure. For example, for nationalised industries and some other public corporations, public expenditure is now measured by net government lending to them and not, as in Cmnd. 5519, by their capital expenditure. It is impossible to say what estimate the previous Administration would have made in December 1973 for net Government lending to the nationalised industries in 1977–78.