HC Deb 19 January 1965 vol 705 cc3-5W
32. Mr. Currie

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will authorise the counting of unestablished service for pension purposes in the case of those civil servants who have been established in the Civil Service after previous unestablished service.

Mr. Callaghan

Unestablished service after 14th July, 1949, counts in full for pension on subsequent establishment.

— Date of Retirement—31st March
1964 1963 1962 1961 1960 1959 1958 1957
£ £ £ £ £ £ £ £
Clerical Officer 448 430 412 404 406 399 383 372
Executive Officer 626 600 582 580 574 563 536 519
Higher Executive Officer 777 741 721 717 706 689 657 638
Senior Executive Officer 1,027 977 942 930 902 865 811 783
Principal 1,308 1,251 1,209 1,192 1,153 1,103 1,018 983
Assistant Secretary 1,780 1,710 1,702 1,639 1,552 1,461 1,395 1,359
— Date of Retirement—31st March
1956 1955 1954 1953 1952 1951 1950 1949
£ £ £ £ £ £ £ £
Clerical Officer 365 359 361 358 350 344 343 344
Executive Officer 502 494 496 490 487 480 480 478
Higher Executive Officer 620 606 609 600 595 583 580 573
Senior Executive Officer 757 744 748 740 744 721 720 717
Principal 949 936 927 943 935 909 891 890
Assistant Secretary 1,316 1,311 1,300 1,252 1,185 1,165 1,100 1,160

Before that date it counts as to one half. Until I have considered the latest proposals on this subject submitted to me by the Staff Side of the Civil Service National Whitley Council only a day or two ago I have no statement to make.

Mr. J. E. B. Hill

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the maximum pensions, beginning on 1st October, 1964, payable to civil servants retiring after 40 years' pensionable service, on London pay scales, from the grade of clerical officer, all grades of the executive class, and the grades of principal and assistant secretary, and the corresponding pensions, including increases under the Pensions (Increase) Acts, which began on 1st October in each of the preceding 15 years.

Mr. MacDermot

The pensions are as follows. London rates of pay have been used up to 1960 and outer-London rates from 1961. All the figures relate to retirements on 31st March in each year. Special and time-consuming calculations would be required to produce those for chief executive officers, senior chief executive officers and principal executive officers. But, if the hon. Member wishes, I will arrange for them to be prepared.

Mr. Frank Allaun

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage of general executive officers is promoted to higher grades; how long elapses before such promotion generally takes place; and what is regarded as the career grade for general executive officers.

Mr. Diamond

We cannot give a precise percentage in answer to the first part of the Question, nor do we regularly describe one grade as the career grade. In practice the great majority of recruits who enter the executive officer grade become higher executive officers, and many are promoted to senior executive officer, while the best go on to the highest posts. In recent years executive officers promoted to higher executive officer have had an average of just over ten years' service in the basic grade.