Sitting of 27 March 1844

Preamble
MINUTES. BILLS. Public.—2o. Quarter Sessions (Cities and Boroughs).
3o. and passed:—Mutiny Bill; Marine Mutiny Bill; Night Poaching Prevention.
Private.—1o. Lascaridi's Naturalization; Spartali's Naturalization.
Reported.—Eastern Counties Railway.
3o. and passed:—Great Western Railway (Resumed and Passed); Bolton and Preston Railway.
PETITIONS PRESENTED. By Mr. Estcourt, and other hon. Members, front Oxford University, and eight other places, against the Union of the Sees of St. Asaph and Bangor.—By Mr. P. Howard, from Carlisle, and Mr. Fielden, from. Blackburn, for Repeal of the Duty un Raw Cotton.—By Mr. E. Stanley, and other hon. Members, from Aspatria, Dalham, and Uxbridge, &c., against the Re-
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peal of the Corn Laws.—By Mr. Greene, from Lancaster Union, and Mr. J. A. Smith, from Chichester, against the Bastardy Clauses of the Poor Law Amendment Bill.—By Lord Worsley, from Hartley, and 7 other places, in favour of the Commons Inclosure Bill.—By Mr. H. F. Berkeley, from Mayor of Bristol, against the same.—By Mr. Hume, from Montrose, and by Mr. Gibson Craig, from Royal Burghs of Scotland, against the Prisons (Scotland) Bill.—By Mr. Gibson Craig, from Miners and Colliers of Cluny, and other places, against the Export Duty on Coals.—By Mr. H. Hinde, from Thomas Gray, against the present mode of Administering Oatbs.—By Mr. Hume from Tobacco Manufacturers of London, for the Prevention of Smuggling.—By Mr. Wallace, from Coopers of Glasgow and Greenock, against the Duty on Staves.—By Mr. O'Connell, from Murroe, in favour of the Repeal of the Union, and from Members of the Loyal National Repeal Association, for Inquiry into proceedings at the late State Trials.—By Mr. Hodgson Hinde, from Newcastle-upon-Tyne, against Rating of Tenements.

HOURS OF LABOUR IN FACTORIES.
Viscount Sandonthought it would be for the general convenience of the House if his noble Friend (Lord Ashley) would take the earliest opportunity of stating the course he intended to pursue on Friday next, in reference to the limitation of the hours of labour in the Factories Bill.
Lord Ashleysaid, that his first impression, which had since been confirmed by the opinions of several of his friends on both sides of the House was, not to offer any opposition to the Government proposition to withdraw the Bill. It was, therefore, not his intention to oppose the Government on Friday, in their Motion for the withdrawal of the Bill. He was aware that he surrendered many advantages which he now possessed by adopting that course, but he thought it his duty on all occasions, when he could do so without conceding principle, to consult the wishes and convenience of the House and the Government.
Sir J. Graham: Perhaps I may be permitted to say—having given a notice which now stands for Friday evening with respect to the Bill lately discussed—that if such a proposal meets with the general assent of the House, I shall on Friday move for leave to bring in a Bill to alter the existing law as to Labour in Factories.

MASTERS AND SERVANTS.—ORDER OF THE DAY.—
Mr. T. Duncombeon the Motion that the Order of the Day be read, said he believed the question now was, the reading of the Order of the Day; if they allowed the Order of the Day to be postponed on one Bill, there could be no objection to its being postponed on another; and he had an objection to the Bill that stood No. 7 on the Paper—the Masters and

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Servants Bill, which he intended to propose should be postponed till after Easter. This was one of the most important Bills that had been introduced during the present Session, not excepting even the Factories Bill, or the Commons' Inclosure Bill. But any subject that was legislated upon on Wednesday was never reported. The labouring population had been taken quite by surprise by this Bill. The Bill was totally different in principle to any which had preceded it; and it had been altered in almost every word, from the Preamble to the last Clause contained in it. The Government, under such circumstances, ought to discharge the order for its committal, and bring in a new Bill, as they proposed to do on the Factory question. He had several petitions to present against the Bill, all of which went boldly to the point, by calling on the House to scout it from their consideration.
Sir J. Grahamthought, after what had fallen from the hon. Gentleman, he ought to state that the Bill was disclaimed by the Government as a Government Bill. There was but one new enactment in this Bill, and that the 4th Clause, which applied to contract work; and he thought, it highly expedient that it should be well considered. He (Sir J. Graham) was for the most part favourable to the new enactment, but he was not at all pledged with respect to it. He certainly thought this Bill ought not to be proceeded with in the absence of the hon. Member for Somersetshire.
Mr. Ferrandsaid, he had that morning received numerous letters from persons in the manufacturing districts, all expressing the greatest alarm as to the effect of the 4th Clause of this Bill, if it should become law. That Clause provided that if a working man should not fulfill a contract—
The Speakersaid, the present discussion was altogether irregular. The question was whether the Order of the Day, should be now read, and on that question it was quite irregular to enter into a discussion of the details of a particular measure, although it might be included amongst the Orders of the Day.
Mr. T. Duncombesaid, he should then move as an Amendment, that the Order of the Day for the Committee on the Masters and Servants' Bill be read, for the purpose of having the Bill postponed.
Mr. Gally Knightsaid the motive of this Bill was to enable magistrates to assist the
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working men in deciding points of difference between Masters and Servants. He thought if honorable Gentlemen knew as in Lich as he did of the difficulties which surrounded a magistrate in the cases between Masters and Servants, they would not oppose this Bill.
Mr. Hawesthought it only an act of justice towards the Government to state, that whereas the Bill was originally obscure as to its enactments, it was now, in accordance with their suggestions, made clear and more fitted for discussion. He objected to the course pursued by the hon. Member for Finsbury in taking that Bill out of its order and moving that, it be postponed, especially after an assurance had been given that it would be postponed when the Order of the Day came before the House in regular course.
Mr. T. Duncombeinsisted on his right to make the Motion.
The Speakersaid, it was the ordinary understanding that on Wednesdays the Orders of the Day should be taken as they stood on the List, but, there was no rule of the House to prevent the hon. Member for Finsbury from moving his Amendment. The effect of that Amendment, however, if carried, would be, that a separate question must be put with respect to every distinct Order of the Day—a course which would be contrary to the general understanding which existed.
Amendment withdrawn.
House adjourned at a quarter before one.