§ 9.19 p.m.
§ Lord Redesdale rose to move, That this House regrets Her Majesty's Government's decision to lay the draft guidance on 23 March, before they have laid orders under Sections 55, 92, 100, 110 and 133 of and Schedule 8 to the Licensing Act 2003, which set out the level of fees which applicants for licences will be required to pay licensing authorities.
§ The noble Lord said: My Lords, much as I am tempted to launch into what the noble Lord would describe as a Second Reading speech, raising many of the points he raised, I feel that there are certain Members of the House who are not as interested in these debates as others and believe that I might suffer some displeasure. So I can only say that although the Minister's arguments were, as always, extremely emollient and persuasive, he still could not make a silken purse out of a pig's ear, an analogy which we believe is reflected in some aspects of this legislation.
§ In speaking to the very issue of the fee structure the Minister used the phrase, "the not-too-distant future". That leads me to press the Motion standing in my name. I should therefore like to test the opinion of the House.
§ 9.21 p.m.
§ On Question, Whether the said Motion shall be agreed to?
§ Their Lordships divided: Contents, 56; Not-Contents, 71.
247| Division No. 5 | |
| CONTENTS | |
| Addington, L. | Colwyn, L. |
| Alderdice, L. | Dholakia, L. |
| Avebury, L. | Forsyth of Drumlean, L. |
| Barker, B. | Garden, L. |
| Bradshaw, L. | Geddes, L. |
| Brougham and Vaux, L. | Hamwee, B. |
| Buscombe, B. | Harris of Richmond, B. |
| Carnegy of Lour, B. | Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L. |
| Hooper, B. | Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L. |
| Howe of Idlicote, B. | O'Cathain, B. |
| Jenkin of Roding, L. | Park of Monmouth, B. |
| Jopling, L. | Perry of Southwark, B. |
| Kingsland, L. | Phillips of Sudbury, L. |
| Lindsay, E. | Redesdale, L. [Teller] |
| Linklater of Butterstone, B. | Roper, L. [Teller] |
| Mackie of Benshie, L. | Seccombe, B. |
| McNally, L. | Selborne, E. |
| Maddock, B. | Sharp of Guildford, B. |
| Mar and Kellie, E. | Shutt of Greetland, L. |
| Marlesford, L. | Smith of Clifton, L. |
| Masham of Ilton, B. | Thomas of Walliswood, B. |
| Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B. | Tordoff, L. |
| Monson, L. | Vinson, L. |
| Montrose, D. | Wallace of Saltaire, L. |
| Noakes, B. | Watson of Richmond, L. |
| Northbrook, L. | Wilcox, B. |
| Northover, B. | Williams of Crosby, B. |
| Norton of Louth, L. | Windlesham, L. |
| NOT-CONTENTS | |
| Ahmed, L. | Goldsmith, L. |
| Amos, B. (Lord President of the Council) | Gordon of Strathblane, L. |
| Gould of Potternewton, B. | |
| Andrews, B. | Graham of Edmonton, L. |
| Archer of Sandwell, L. | Grocott, L. [Teller] |
| Ashton of Upholland, B. | Hilton of Eggardon, B. |
| Bach, L. | Hogg of Cumbernauld, L. |
| Bassam of Brighton, L. | Hollis of Heigham, B. |
| Brennan, L. | Howells of St. Davids, B. |
| Bridges, L. | Hughes of Woodside, L. |
| Brooke of Alverthorpe, L. | Hunt of Kings Heath, L. |
| Brookman, L. | |
| Brooks of Tremorfa, L. | Jones, L. |
| Burlison, L. | Kirkhill, L. |
| Campbell-Savours, L. | Layard, L. |
| Carter, L. | Lea of Crondall, L. |
| Chan, L. | Lipsey, L. |
| Chandos, V. | Lockwood, B. |
| Cohen of Pimlico, B. | McIntosh of Haringey, L. |
| Corbett of Castle Vale, L. | Massey of Darwen, B. |
| Crawley, B. | Merlyn-Rees, L. |
| David, B. | Mitchell, L. |
| Davies of Coity, L. | Nicol, B. |
| Davies of Oldham, L.[Teller] | Pitkeathley, B. |
| Desai, L. | Plant of Highfield, L. |
| Dixon, L. | Rendell of Babergh, B. |
| Dubs, L. | Rooker, L. |
| Elder, L. | Scotland of Asthal, B. |
| Evans of Parkside, L. | |
| Evans of Temple Guiting, L. | Simon, V. |
| Farrington of Ribbleton, B. | Stone of Blackheath, L. |
| Filkin, L. | Tomlinson, L. |
| Finlay of Llandaff, B. | Triesman, L. |
| Gale, B. | Turner of Camden, B. |
| Gavron, L. | Warwick of Undercliffe, B. |
| Gibson of Market Rasen, B. | Whitty, L. |
| Golding, B. | Young of Old Scone, B. |
§ Resolved in the negative, and Motion disagreed to accordingly.