HL Deb 27 March 2003 vol 646 cc981-2

15 Page 2, line 41, after "body" insert "and the qualifying patient"

The Commons disagreed to this amendment for the following reason:

15A Because it is unnecessary to add additional requirements in relation to community care assessments under clause 3(3) and it is undesirable to differentiate between assessments under clause 3(3) and other assessments carried out under section 47 of the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990.

16 Page 2, line 42, at end insert— ( ) Before making a decision under subsection (3), the responsible authority must—

  1. (a) consult the patient and his carer, if he has one;
  2. (b) inform them of the cost of the proposed care plans; and
  3. (c) obtain the consent of the patient and any carer and, where informed consent is given, record that on the patient's file, or if a patient lacks the mental capacity to give such consent, record on the file what steps it has taken to ensure that the patient's best interests have been duly considered."

The Commons disagreed to this amendment for the following reason:

16A Because it is unnecessary to add additional requirements in relation to community care assessments under clause 3(3) and it is undesirable let differentiate between assessments under clause 3(3) and other assessments carried out under section 47 of the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990.

18 Page 3, line 8, after "consulting" insert "the carer and obtaining the informed consent of the carer to the proposed care plan and after consulting"

The Commons disagreed to this amendment for the following reason:

18A Because it is unnecessary to add additional requirements in relation to carers' assessments under clause 3(4) and if is undesirable to differentiate between assessments under clause 3(4) and other assessments carried out under the Carers and Disabled Children Act 2000.

Baroness Andrews

My Lords, I beg to move that the House do not insist on their Amendments Nos. 15, 16 and 18 to which the Commons have disagreed for their reasons numbered 15A, 16A and 18A.

Moved, That the House do not insist on their Amendments Nos. 15, 16 and 18 to which the Commons have disagreed for their reasons numbered 15A, 16A and 18A.—(Baroness Andrews.)

On Question, Motion agreed to.