HL Deb 04 February 2003 vol 644 cc115-39

3.10 p.m.

The Lord Privy Seal (Lord Williams of Mostyn)

My Lords, I beg to move the first Motion standing in my name on the Order Paper.

Lords reform has been quite a long story; today's votes in both Houses are not, of course, the end of it. It is possible that today may be decisive and will determine the broad shape of the House in the future.

I will say something about today's procedure. I remind your Lordships that, when the noble Lord, Lord Renton, intervened a few days ago and suggested that 15 hours and 98 speakers might approach a reasonable sufficiency—

Noble Lords

Hear, hear.

Lord Williams of Mostyn

There was that sort of growl of approval. After any speeches, I shall formally move all seven Motions in turn. As I reminded the House a few days ago, a vote for one option does not pre-empt any of your Lordships from voting for any other options or indeed, should your Lordships so desire, for all of them.

Tellers will have to be appointed, and voices on both sides will be heard in the Chamber at the three-minute mark in the usual way. All of us are free to vote "Content" or "Not Content" to as many of the Motions as we choose. Your Lordships will remember that the noble and learned Lord, Lord Howe of Aberavon, speaking, I think, on behalf of the Joint Committee, asked us to give our views on each of the options. Voting "Content" would mean, therefore, that one would regard that option as acceptable—not necessarily the best, but, at least, acceptable. Voting "Not Content" means that one would regard that particular option as not acceptable.

I shall vote for a 100 per cent elected down to 50 per cent elected House and against all other offers.

Moved, That this House approves Option 1 (fully appointed) in the report from the Joint Committee on House of Lords Reform.—(Lord Williams of Mostyn.)

Lord Strathclyde

My Lords, I rise to say only one or two things. As the noble and learned Lord the Leader of the House correctly said, we are going to have seven very important votes. I hope that noble Lords will approach those votes with a sense that they are all significant. I can confirm from this part of the House—something that is echoed in all parts of the House—that it will be a genuinely free vote. I do not really need to say "genuinely" because, in our party, all free votes are genuinely free votes. There has been one important change since we debated the matter: the Prime Minister has said that he is not in favour of elections, and noble Lords should, therefore, be aware that, almost whatever happens, there is unlikely to be any legislation this side of the next general election.

The noble and learned Lord said how he was going to vote. I hope that, at the end of the debate, the Joint Committee will be asked to work up at least more than one option, to give us a further choice. We have time on our side. Just as I did in 1999, I will vote against an appointed House that has not a single guarantee or safeguard attached to it. Equally, I will vote for Option 4, which preserves the independent Cross Benches but allows for election of the political House. I hope that the Joint Committee will study the practicality of elections as a whole. We can then return to consideration of those detailed options and carry our debate further.

The House has won respect for its famously open mind. I hope today that we will not close our minds finally to alternative futures and that, as the Prime Minister leaps forward so eagerly to grasp the appointed House that we denied him in 1999" some noble Lords, at least, will ask themselves the old Roman question: cui bono?

Baroness Williams of Crosby

My Lords, I do not intend to make a speech beyond saying that we should vote for the future. I call on other noble Lords not to make speeches either.

Lord Bruce of Donington

My Lords, I shall give a short explanation of the vote that I propose to make, which is in favour of Option 1. My reason for so doing is that I do not believe that this House should at any point challenge the power of the House of Commons. There should be no electoral challenge to the House of Commons.

I draw the House's attention to paragraph 75 of the committee's report, which says: The appointed element should be nominated by a new independent statutory Appointments Commission whose principal function would be to ensure a quality of representativeness and regional balance in the reformed House". I believe in that, which is why I propose to support Option 1.

3.15 p.m.

On Question, Whether the said Motion (Option 1) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 335: Not-Contents, 110.

Division No. 1
CONTENTS
Ackner, L. Borrie, L.
Ahmed, L. Boston of Faversham, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V. Bowness, L.
Alli, L." Bradshaw, L.
Ampthill, L. Bramall, L.
Andrews, B. Brennan, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B. Brett, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L. Bridges, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L. Brightman, L.
Arran, E. Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
Astor, V. Brookeborough, V.
Astor of Hever, L. Brookman, L.
Attlee, E. Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bagri, L. Bruce of Donington, L.
Barnett, L. Burlison, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L. Burnham, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L. Butler of Brockwell, L.
Bell, L. Butterworth, L.
Best, L. Byford, B.
Bhatia, L. Campbell of Alloway, L.
Biffen, L. Carey of Clifton, L.
Billingham, B. Carlile of Berriew, L.
Birt, L. Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Blackstone, B. Carnegy of Lour, B.
Blackwell, L. Carter, L.
Blaker, L. Cavendish of Furness, L.
Bledisloe, V. Chadlington, L.
Boothroyd, B. Chalfont, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B. Hannay of Chiswick, L.
Chan, L. Hanningfield, L.
Chester, Bp. Hardy of Wath.L.
Chorley, L. Harris of High Cross, L.
Christopher, L. Harris of Peckham, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L. Harrison, L.
Clinton-Davis, L. Hayhoe, L.
Cobbold, L. Hereford, Bp.
Coe, L. Higgins, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B. Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Colville of Culross, V. Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Colwyn, L. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Condon, L. Hollis of Heigham, B.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L. Home, E.
Cope of Berkeley, L. Howe, E.
Courtown, E. Howe of Aberavon, L.
Craig of Radley, L. Howe of Idlicote, B.
Craigavon, V. Howell of Guildford, L.
Crawley, B. Howells of St. Davids, B.
Crickhowell, L. Howie of Troon, L.
Croham, L. Hughes of Woodside, L.
Cuckney, L. Hunt of Wirral, L.
Cumberlege, B. Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Dahrendorf, L. Imbert, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B. Inge, L.
David, B. Inglewood, L.
Davies of Coity, L. Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Janner of Braunstone, L.
Denham, L. Jeger, B.
Donaldson of Lymington, L. Jones, L.
Donoughue, L. Jopling, L.
Dunn, B. Jordan, L.
Durham, Bp. Kimball, L.
Eden of Winton, L. King of Bridgwater. L.
Elder, L. King of West Bromwich, L.
Elles, B. Kingsdown, L.
Elliott of Morpeth, L. Kirkham, L.
Elton, L. Kirkhill, L.
Evans of Parkside, L. Knight of Collingtree, B.
Evans of Watford, L. Laird, L.
Ezra, L. Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L. Lane of Horsell, L.
Falkland, V. Lang of Monkton, L.
Faulkner of Worcester, L. [Teller] Layard, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Fearn, L. Levene of Portsoken, L.
Feldman, L. Lichfield, Bp.
Ferrers, E. Lipsey, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B. Listowel, E.
Flather, B. Liverpool, E.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L. Lockwood, B.
Fowler, L. London, Bp.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Luke, L.
Freeman, L. Lyell, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B. McColl of Dulwich, L.
Garel-Jones, L. Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
Gavron, L. McFarlane of Llandaff, B
Geraint, L. MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Gilbert, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L. McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Glenarthur, L. Mackay of Clashfern, L.
Glentoran, L. MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Golding, B. Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L. Mackie of Benshie, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B. Mallalieu, B.
Grabiner, L. Mar, C.
Gray of Contin, L. Marlesford, L.
Greengross, B. Marsh, L
Gregson, L. Marshall of Knightsbridge, L.
Grenfell, L. Masham of Ilton, B.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L. Mason of Barnsley, L.
Grocott, L. Massey of Darwen, B.
Habgood, L. Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Hanham, B. Merlyn-Rees, L.
Methuen, L. Sandwich, E.
Miller of Hendon, B. Scotland of Asthal, B.
Mishcon, L. Seccombe, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L. Selsdon, L.
Monson, L. Sewel, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L. Sharman, L.
Montrose, D. Shaw of Northstead, L.
Moore of Wolvercote, L. Sheldon, L.
Moran, L. Sheppard of Didgemere, L.
Morgan of Huyton, B. Shrewsbury, E.
Morris of Aberavon, L. Simon, V.
Mowbray and Stourton, L. Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L. Skelmersdale, L.
Naseby, L. Skidelsky, L.
Neill of Bladen, L. Slim, V.
Newton of Braintree, L. Slynn of Hadley, L.
Nickson, L. Southwark, Bp.
Nicol, B. Stewartby, L.
Noakes, B. Stodart of Leaston, L.
Northbourne, L. Stone of Blackheath, L.
Northbrook, L. Strabolgi, L.
Norton of Louth, L. [Teller] Strange, B.
O'Cathain, B. Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Oliver of Aylmerton, L. Swinfen, L.
Oxburgh, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Oxford, Bp. Tanlaw, L.
Palmer, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Park of Monmouth, B. Temple-Morris, L.
Patel, L. Tenby, V.
Paul, L. Thatcher, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Peel, E. Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Pendry, L. Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Perry of Southwark, B. Tombs, L.
Peston, L. Tomlinson, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L. Tordoff, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L. Trumpington, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Tugendhat, L.
Platt of Writtle, B. Turnberg, L.
Plumb, L. Varley, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Vincent of Coleshill, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Vinson, L.
Powell of Bayswater, L. Vivian, L.
Prashar, B. Wade of Chorlton, L.
Puttnam, L. Wakeham, L.
Quirk, L. Waldegrave of North Hill, L.
Radice, L. Walker of Worcester, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Walpole, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Walton of Detchant, L.
Rawlings, B. Warner, L.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L. Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Reay, L. Weatherill, L.
Rees, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Rees-Mogg, L. Weidenfeld, L.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L. Wigoder, L.
Renton, L. Wilcox, B.
Rix, L. Wilkins, B.
Roberts of Conwy, L. Williams of Elvel, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Williamson of Horton, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L. Willoughby de Broke, L.
Russell-Johnston, L. Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L. Windlesham, L.
St John of Fawsley, L. Winston, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Sandberg, L. Wright of Richmond, L.
NOT-CONTENTS
Acton, L. Barker, B.
Addington, L. Berkeley, L.
Adebowale, L. Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Alexander of Weedon, L. Bragg, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L. Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Amos, B. Caithness, E.
Avebury, L. Campbell-Savours, L.
Baker of Dorking, L. Carrington, L.
Clark of Windermere, L. Morgan, L.
Clement-Jones, L. Moynihan, L.
Cockfield, L. Newby, L.
Davies of Oldham, L. Northover, B.
Desai, L. O'Neill of Bengarve, B.
Dholakia, L. Onslow, E.
Dixon, L. Orme, L.
Dixon-Smith, L. Perry of Walton, L.
Dormand of Easington, L. Pitkeathley, B.
Dubs, L. Plant of Highfield, L.
Erroll, E. Prior, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L. Prys-Davies, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Quinton, L.
Filkin, L. Razzall, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L. Rea, L.
Gale, B. Redesdale, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L. Rendell of Babergh, B.
Goodhart, L. Rennard, L.
Goschen, V. Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L. [Teller] Richard, L.
Roper, L. [Teller]
Greaves, L. Rotherwick, L.
Greenway, L. Russell, E.
Hamwee, B. St.John of Bletso, L.
Harris of Richmond, B. Selborne, E.
Hattersley, L. Sharp of Guildford, B.
Henley, L. Shutt of Greetland, L.
Holme of Cheltenham, L. Smith of Clifton, L.
Hooson, L. Smith of Leigh, L.
Hoyle, L. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Hunt of Chesterton, L. Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Hutchinson of Lullington, L. Strathclyde, L.
Hylton, L. Taverne, L.
Jay of Paddington, B. Thomas of Gresford, L.
Joffe, L. Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Judd, L. Tope, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B. Trefgarne, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L. Uddin, B.
Livsey of Talgarth, L. Waddington, L.
Lloyd of Berwick, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L. Walmsley, B.
Ludford, B. Warnock, B.
Maclennan of Rogart, L. Whitaker, B.
Maddock, B. Whitty, L.
Mar and Kellie, E Williams of Crosby, B.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B. Williams of Mostyn, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Mitchell, L.

Resolved in the affirmative, and Motion agreed to accordingly.

Lord Williams of Mostyn

My Lords, however, I now move Motion No. 2: fully elected.

Moved, That this House approves Option 2 (fully elected) in the report from the Joint Committee on House of Lords Reform.—(Lord Williams of Mostyn.)

3.36 p.m.

On Question, Whether the said Motion (Option 2) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 106; Not-Contents, 329.

Division No. 2
CONTENTS
Addington, L. Maclennan of Rogart, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L. McNally, L.
Amos, B. Maddock, B.
Anelay of St Johns, B. Mancroft, L.
Astor, V. Mar and Kellie, E.
Avebury, L. Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Barker, B. Mitchell, L.
Bragg, L. Montrose, D.
Burlison, L. Morgan, L.
Buscombe, B. Moynihan, L.
Caithness, E. Newby, L.
Campbell-Savours, L. Nicol, B.
Carlile of Berriew, L. Northover, B.
Carrington, L. Onslow, E.
Clark of Windermere, L. Orme, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L. Peston, L.
Davies of Oldham, L. Plant of Highfield, L.
Desai, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Dholakia, L. Powell of Bayswater, L.
Dixon, L. Prior, L.
Dixon-Smith, L. Prys-Davies, L.
Dormand of Easington, L. Puttnam, L.
Dubs, L.[Teller] Radice, L.
Erroll, E. Razzall, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L. Rea, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Redesdale, L.
Fearn, L. Rendell of Babergh, B.
Filkin, L. Rennard, L.
Gale, B. Richard, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L. Rotherwick, L.
Goodhart. L. Saatchi, L.
Goschen, V. Scott of Needham Market, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B. Selsdon, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L. [Teller] Sharman, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Greaves, L. Shutt of Greetland, L.
Hamwee, B. Smith of Clifton, L.
Harris of Richmond, B. Smith of Leigh, L.
Hattersley, L. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Henley, L. Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Hooper, B. Stoddart of Swindon, L
Hooson, L. Strathclyde, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L. Thomas of Gresford, L.
Hunt of Chesterton, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Tope, L.
Hutchinson of Lullington, L. Trefgarne, L.
Hylton, L. Uddin, B.
Inglewood, L Waddington, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B. Wallace of Saltaire, L.
King of West Bromwich, L. Whitty, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L. Williams of Elvel, L.
Livsey of Talgarth, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Ludford, B. Woolmer of Leeds, L.
NOT-CONTENTS
Ackner, L. Baker of Dorking, L.
Adebowale, L. Barnett, L.
Ahmed, L. Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Alexander of Weedon, L. Bell, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V. Berkeley, L.
Alli, L. Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Ampthill, L. Best, L.
Andrews, B. Bhatia, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L. Biffen, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L. Billingham, B.
Arran, E. Birt, L.
Astor of Hever, L. Black stone, B.
Attlee, E. Blackwell, L.
Bagri, L. Blaker, L.
Blatch, B. Fookes, B.
Bledisloe, V. Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Boothroyd, B. Fowler, L.
Borrie, L. Freeman, L.
Boston of Faversham, L. Gardner of Parkes, B.
Bowness, L. Garel-Jones, L.
Bradshaw, L. Gavron, L.
Bramall, L. Geraint, L.
Brennan, L. Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Brett, L. Gilbert, L.
Bridges, L. Gladwin of Clee, L.
Brightman, L. Glenarthur, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L. Glentoran, L.
Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L. Golding, B.
Brookeborough, V. Goldsmith, L.
Brookman, L. Gordon of Strathblane, L [Teller]
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L. Grabiner, L.
Burnham, L. Gray of Contin, L.
Butler of Brockwell, L. Greengross, B.
Byford, B. Greenway, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L. Gregson, L.
Carey of Clifton, L. Grenfell, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L. Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B. Grocott, L.
Carter, L. Guildford, Bp.
Cavendish of Furness, L. Habgood, L.
Chadlington, L. Hanham, B.
Chalfont, L. Hannay of Chiswick, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B. Hanningfield, L.
Chan, L. Hardy of Wath, L.
Chester, Bp. Harris of High Cross, L.
Chorley, L. Harris of Peckham, L.
Christopher, L. Harrison, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L. Hayhoe, L.
Clement-Jones, L. Hereford, Bp.
Clinton-Davis, L. Higgins, L.
Cockfield, L. Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Coe, L. Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Colville of Culross, V. Hollis of Heigham, B.
Colwyn, L. Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Condon, L. Home, E.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L. Howe, E.
Courtown, E. Howe of Aberavon, L.
Craig of Radley, L. Howe of Idlicote, B.
Craigavon, V. Howell of Guildford, L.
Crathorne, L. Howells of St. Davids, B.
Crawley, B. Howie of Troon, L.
Crickhowell, L. Hunt of Wirral, L.
Croham, L. Hurd of Westwell, L.
Cuckney, L. Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Cumberlege, B. Imbert, L.
Dahrendorf, L. Inge, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B. Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L. Janner of Braunstone, L.
Dean of Harptree, L. Jeger, B.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Jellicoe, E.
Donaldson of Lymington, L. Joffe, L.
Donoughue, L. Jones, L.
Dunn, B. Jopling, L
Durham, Bp. Judd, L.
Eden of Winton, L. Kilclooney, L.
Elder, L. Kimball, L.
Elles, B. King of Bridgwater, L.
Elliott of Morpeth, L. Kingsdown, L.
Elton, L. Kirkham, L.
Evans of Watford, L. Kirkhill, L.
Falkland, V. Knight of Collingtree, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L. Laird, L.
Feldman, L. Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Ferrers, E. Lane of Horsell, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B. Lang of Monkton, L.
Fitt, L. Layard, L.
Flather, B. Lea of Crondall, L.
Lichfield, Bp. Rees, L
Lipsey, L. Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.
Listowel, E. Renton, L.
Liverpool, E. Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Lloyd of Berwick, L. Rix, L.
Lockwood, B. Roberts of Conwy, L.
London, Bp. Roll of Ipsden, L.
Luke, L. Russell, E.
Lyell, L. Russell-Johnston, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L. Ryder of Wensum, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L. St.John of Bletso, L
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L. St John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. Sandberg, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B. Sandwich, E.
Mackay of Clashfern, L. Scotland of Asthal, B.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L. Seccombe, B.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L. Selborne, E.
Mackie of Benshie, L. Sewel, L.
Mallalieu, B. Shaw of Northstead, L.
Mar, C. Sheldon, L.
Marlesford, L. Sheppard of Didgemere, L.
Marsh, L. Shrewsbury, E.
Marshall of Knightsbridge, L. Simon, V.
Masham of Ilton, B. Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L. Skelmersdale, L.
Massey of Darwen, B. Skidelsky, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L. Slim, V.
Merlyn-Rees, L. Slynn of Hadley, L.
Miller of Hendon, B. Southwark, Bp.
Mishcon, L. Stewartby, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L. Stodart of Leaston, L.
Monson, L. Stone of Blackheath, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L. Strabolgi, L.
Moore of Wolvercote, L. Strange, B.
Moran, L. Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Morgan of Huyton, B. Swinfen, L.
Morris of Aberavon, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Mowbray and Stourton, L. Tanlaw, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L. Taverne, L.
Naseby, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Neill of Bladen, L. Temple-Morris, L.
Newton of Braintree, L. Tenby, V.
Nickson, L. Thatcher, B.
Noakes, B. Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Northbourne, L. Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Northbrook, L. Tombs, L.
Norton of Louth, L. [Teller] Tomlinson, L.
O'Cathain, B. Trumpington, B.
Oliver of Aylmerton, L. Tugendhat, L.
O'Neill of Bengarve, B. Turnberg, L.
Oxburgh, L. Varley, L.
Oxford, Bp. Vincent of Coleshill, L.
Palmer, L. Vinson, L.
Parekh, L. Vivian, L.
Park of Monmouth, B. Wade of Chorlton, L.
Patel, L. Wakeham, L.
Paul, L. Waldegrave of North Hill, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L. Walker of Worcester, L.
Peel, E. Walpole, L.
Pendry, L. Walton of Detchant, L.
Perry of Southwark, B. Warner, L.
Perry of Walton, L. Warnock, B.
Peyton of Yeovil, L. Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Phillips of Sudbury, L. Watson of Richmond, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Weatherill, L.
Platt of Writtle, B. Whitaker, B.
Plumb, L. Wigoder, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Wilcox, B.
Prashar, B. Wilkins, B.
Quirk, L. Williamson of Horton, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Willoughby de Broke, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Rawlings, B. Windlesham, L.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L. Winston, L.
Reay, L. Wright of Richmond, L.

Resolved in the negative, and Motion disagreed to accordingly.

Lord Williams of Mostyn

My Lords, I beg to move the third Motion standing in my name: 80 per cent appointed/20 per cent elected.

Moved, That this House approves Option 3 (80 per cent appointed/20 per cent elected) in the report from the Joint Committee on House of Lords Reform.—(Lord Williams of Mostyn.)

3.56 p.m.

On Question, Whether the said Motion (Option 3) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 39; Not-Contents, 375.

Division No. 3
CONTENTS
Archer of Sandwell, L. Lichfield, Bp.
Berkeley, L. May of Oxford, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L. Mitchell, L.
Butler of Brockwell, L. [Teller] Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B. Montrose, D.
Craigavon, V. Oxford, Bp.
Davies of Oldham, L. Perry of Walton, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Durham, Bp. Pitkeathley, B.
Gale, B. Rennard, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B. St.John of Bletso, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L. [Teller] Sawyer, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Greenway, L. Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Hannay of Chiswick, L. Uddin, B.
Hereford, Bp. Wakeham, L.
Hoyle, L. Warner, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L. Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Jellicoe, E. Whitaker, B.
Lamont of Lerwick, L. Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
NOT-CONTENTS
Ackner, L. Birt, L.
Addington, L. Blackstone, B.
Adebowale, L. Blackwell, L.
Ahmed, L. Blaker, L.
Alderdice, L. Blatch, B.
Alexander of Weedon, L. Bledisloe, V.
Allenby of Megiddo, V. Boothroyd, B.
Alli, L. Borrie, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L. Boston of Faversham, L.
Amos, B. Bowness, L.
Ampthill, L. Bradshaw, L.
Andrews, B. Bragg, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B. Bramall, L.
Arran, E. Brennan, L.
Astor, V. Brett, L.
Astor of Hever, L. Bridges, L.
Attlee, E. Brightman, L.
Bagri, L. Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
Baker of Dorking, L. Brooke borough, V.
Barker, B. Brookman, L.
Barnett, L. Brougham and Vaux, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L. Burlison, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L. Burnham, L.
Bhatia, L. Burns, L.
Biffen, L. Buscombe, B.
Billingham, B. Byford, B.
Caithness, E. Gladwin of Clee, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L. Glenarthur, L.
Campbell-Savours, L. Glentoran, L.
Carey of Clifton, L. Golding, B.
Carlile of Berriew, L. Goldsmith, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L. Goodhart, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B. Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Carter, L. Goschen, V.
Chadlinglon, L. Gould of Potternewton, B.
Chalfont, L. Grabiner, L.
Chan, L. Gray of Contin, L.
Chester, Bp. Greaves, L.
Chorley. L. Greengross, B.
Christopher, L. Grenfell, L.
Clark of Windermere, L. Grocott, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L. Guildford, Bp.
Clement-Jones, L. Habgood, L.
Clinton-Davis, L. Hamwee, B.
Cobbold, L. Hanham, B.
Cockfield, L. Hardy of Wath, L.
Coe, L. Harris of High Cross, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B. Harris of Peckham, L.
Colville of Culross, V. Harris of Richmond, B.
Colwyn, L. Harrison, L.
Condon, L. Hattersley, L.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L. Hayhoe, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L. Hayman, B.
Courtown, E. Henley, L.
Craig of Radley, L. Higgins, L.
Crathorne, L. Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Crawley, B. Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Crickhowell, L. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Croham, L. Hollis of Heigham, B.
Cuckney, L. Home, E.
Cumberlege, B. Howe, E.
Dahrendorf, L. Howe of Aberavon, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B. Howe of Idlicote, B.
David, B. Howell of Guildford, L.
Davies of Coity, L. Howells of St. Davids, B.
Dean of Harptree, L. Howie of Troon, L.
Desai, L. Hughes of Woodside, L.
Dixon, L. Hunt of Chesterton, L.
Dixon-Smith, L. Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Donaldson of Lymington, L. Hunt of Wirral, L.
Donoughue, L. Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Dubs, L. Hylton, L.
Dunn, B. Imbert, L.
Eden of Winton, L. Inge, L.
Elder, L. Inglewood, L.
Elles, B. Irvine of Lairg, L.(Lord Chancellor)
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L. Janner of Braunstone, L.
Erroll, E. Jay of Paddington, B.
Evans of Parkside, L. Joffe, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L. Jones, L.
Evans of Watford, L. Jopling, L.
Falkland, V. Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Kilclooney, L.
Faulkner of Worcester, L. [Teller] Kimball, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
Fearn, L. King of West Bromwich, L.
Feldman, L. Kingsdown, L.
Ferrers, E. Kirkham, L.
Filkin, L. Kirkhill, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B. Knight of Collingtree, B.
Flather, B. Laird, L.
Fookes, B. Lane of Horsell, L.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L. Layard, L.
Fowler, L. Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Listowel, E.
Freeman, L. Liverpool, E.
Freyberg, L. Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Garel-Jones, L. Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Gavron, L. Lockwood, B.
Geraint, L. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Gilbert. L. Lucas, L.
Ludford, B. Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Luke, L. Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Lyell, L. Rawlings, B.
McColl of Dulwich, L. Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L. Razzall, L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L. Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. Rees-Mogg, L
McIntosh of Hudnall, B. Renton, L.
Mackay of Clashfern, L. Renton of Mount Harry, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L. Richard, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L. Rix, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L. Roberts of Conwy, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L. Roll of Ipsden, L.
Maddock, B. Roper, L.
Mallalieu, B. Rotherwick, L.
Mancroft, L. Russell, E.
Mar and Kellie, E. Russell-Johnston, L.
Marlesford, L. Ryder of Wensum, L.
Marsh, L. St John of Fawsley, L.
Marshall of Knightsbridge, L. Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Masham of Ilton, B. Sandberg, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L. Sandwich, E.
Massey of Darwen, B. Scotland of Asthal, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L. Scott of Needham Market, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L. Seccomb, B.
Methuen, L. Selborne, E.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B. Selsdon, L.
Miller of Hendon, B. Sewel, L.
Mishcon, L. Sharp of Guildford, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L. Shaw of Northstead, L.
Moore of Wolvercote, L. Sheldon, L.
Moran, L. Sheppard of Didgemere, L.
Morgan of Huyton, B. Shutt of Greetland, L.
Morris of Aberavon, L. Simon, V.
Mowbray and Stourton, L. Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Moynihan, L. Skelmersdale, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L. Skidelsky, L.
Naseby, L. Slim, V.
Neill of Bladen, L. Slynn of Hadley, L.
Newby, L. Smith of Clifton, L.
Newton of Braintree, L. Smith of Leigh. L.
Nickson, L. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Nicol, B. Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Noakes, B. Stewartby, L.
Northbourne, L. Stodart of Leaston, L.
Northbrook, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Northover, B. Strabolgi, L.
Norton of Louth, L. Strange, B.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L. Strathclyde, L.
O'Cathain, B. Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Oliver of Aylmerton, L. Swinfen, L. [Teller]
O'Neill of Bengarve, B. Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Onslow, E. Tanlaw, L.
Palmer, L. Taverne, L.
Parekh, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Park of Monmouth, B. Temple-Morris, L.
Patel, L. Tenby, V.
Paul, L. Thatcher, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L. Thomas of Gresford, L.
Peel, E. Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Pendry, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Perry of Southwark, B. Tombs, L.
Peston, L. Tomlinson, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L. Tope, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Tordoff, L.
Plant of Highfield, L. Trefgarne, L.
Platt of Writtle, B. Trumpington, B.
Plumb, L. Tugendhat, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Turnberg, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Varley, L.
Powell of Bayswater, L. Vincent of Goleshill, L.
Prashar, B. Vinson, L.
Prys-Davies, L. Vivian, L.
Puttnam, L. Waddington, L.
Quirk, L. Waldegrave of North Hill, L.
Walker of Worcester, L. Wilcox, B.
Wallace of Saltaire, L. Wilkins, B.
Walmsley, B. Williams of Crosby, B.
Walpole, L. Williams of Elvel, L.
Walton of Detchant, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Warnock, B.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Watson of Richmond, L. Willoughby de Broke, L.
Weatherill, L. Windlesham, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L. Winston, L.
Whitty, L. Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Wigoder, L. Wright of Richmond, L.

Resolved in the negative, and Motion disagreed to accordingly.

Lord Williams of Mostyn

My Lords, I beg to move the fourth Motion standing in my name on the Order Paper: 80 per cent elected/20 per cent appointed.

Moved, That this House approves Option 4 (80 per cent elected/20 per cent appointed) in the report from the Joint Committee on House of Lords Reform.— (Lord Williams of Mostyn.)

4.16 p.m.

On Question, Whether the said Motion (Option 4) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 93; Not-Contents, 338.

Division No. 4
CONTENTS
Addington, L. Greaves, L.
Alderdice, L. Hamwee, B.
Alexander of Weedon, L. Harris of Richmond, B.
Alton of Liverpool, L. Hattersley, L.
Amos, B. Henley, L.
Avebury, L. Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Baker of Dorking, L. Hooper, B.
Barker, B. Hooson, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L. Hoyle. L.
Bragg, L. Hunt of Chesterton, L.
Caithness, E. Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Campbell-Savours, L. Hutchinson of Lullington, L.
Carrington, L. Hylton, L.
Chandos, V. Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Clement-Jones, L. Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Cockfield, L. Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L. Ludford, B.
Davies of Oldham, L. Maclennan of Rogart, L.
Desai, L. McNally, L.
Dholakia, L. Maddock, B.
Dixon, L. Mancroft, L.
Dixon-Smith, L. Mar and Kellie, E.
Dormand of Easington, L. Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Dubs, L. Mitchell, L.
Erroll, E. Moynihan, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L. Newby, L.
Fearn, L. Northover, B.
Filkin, L. Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L. Onslow, E.
Gale, B. Perry of Walton, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L. Pitkeathley, B.
Goodhart, L. Plant of Highfield, L.
Goschen, V. Prior, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L. [Teller] Prys-Davies, L.
Razzalh, L.
Rea, L. Strathclyde, L.
Redesdale, L. Taverne, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B. Thomas of Gresford, L.
Rennard, L. Tope, L.
Richard, L. Trefgarne, L.
Roper, L. [Teller] Uddin, B.
Russell, E. Waddington, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B. Walmsley, B.
Shutt of Greetland, L. Whitty, L.
Smith of Clifton, L. Williams of Crosby, B.
Smith of Leigh, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
NOT-CONTENTS
Ackner, L. Clark of Windermere, L.
Adebowale, L. Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Ahmed, L. Clinton-Davis, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V. Cobbold, L.
Alli, L. Coe, L.
Ampthill, L. Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Anelay of St Johns, B. Colville of Culross, V.
Archer of Sandwell, L. Colwyn, L.
Arran, E. Condon, L.
Astor, V. Cooke of Islandreagh, L.
Astor of Hever, L. Courtown, E.
Attlee, E. Cox, B.
Bagri, L. Craig of Radley, L.
Barnett, L. Craigavon, V.
Beaumont of Whitley, L. Crathorne, L.
Berkeley, L. Crawley, B.
Bhatia, L. Crickhowell, L.
Biffen, L. Croham, L.
Billingham, B. Cuckney, L.
Birt, L. Cumberlege, B.
Black of Crossharbour, L. Dahrendorf, L.
Blackstone, B. Darcy de Knayth, B.
Blackwell, L. David, B.
Blaker, L. Davies of Coity, L.
Blatch, B. Dean of Harptree, L.
Bledisloe, V. Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Boothroyd, B. Donaldson of Lymington, L.
Borrie, L. Donoughue, L.
Boston of Faversham, L. Dundee, E.
Bowness, L. Dunn, B.
Bradshaw, L. Durham, Bp.
Bramall, L. Eden of Winton, L.
Brennan, L. Elder, L.
Brett, L. Elles, B.
Bridges, L. Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Brightman, L. Elton, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L. Evans of Parkside, L.
Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L. Evans of Watford, L.
Brookeborough, V. Falkland, V.
Brookman, L. Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Brougham and Vaux, L. Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Burlison, L. Feldman, L.
Burnham, L. Ferrers, E.
Burns, L. Finlay of Llandaff, B.
Buscombe, B. Flather, B.
Butler of Brockwell, L. Fookes, B.
Byford, B. Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L. Fowler, L.
Carey of Clifton, L. Freeman, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L. Freyberg, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L. Gardner of Parkes, B.
Carnegy of Lour, B. Garel-Jones, L.
Carter, L. Gavron, L.
Chadlington, L. Geraint, L.
Chalfont, L. Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Chalker of Wallasey, B. Gilbert, L.
Chan, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. [Teller]
Chester, Bp. Glenarthur, L.
Chorley, L. Glentoran, L.
Christopher, L. Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L. MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L. Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B. Mackieof Benshie, L.
Grabiner, L. Mallalieu, B.
Gray of Contin, L. Marlesford, L.
Greengross, B. Marsh, L.
Grenfell, L. Marshall of Knightsbridge, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L. Masham of Ilton, B.
Grocott, L, Mason of Barnsley, L.
Guildford, Bp. Massey of Darwen, B.
Habgood, L. May of Oxford, L.
Hanham, B. Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Hannay of Chiswick, L. Merlyn-Rees, L.
Hanningfield, L. Methuen, L.
Hardy of Wath, L. Miller of Hendon, B.
Harris of High Cross, L. Mishcon, L.
Harris of Peckham, L. Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Harrison, L. Monson, L.
Hayhoe, L. Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Hayman, B. Montrose, D.
Hereford, Bp. Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Higgins, L. Moran, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B. Morgan of Huyton, B.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L. Morris of Aberavon, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L. Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B. Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Hope of Craighead, L. Naseby, L.
Howe, E. Neill of Bladen, L.
Howe of Aberavon, L. Newton of Braintree, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B. Nickson, L.
Howell of Guildford, L. Nicol, B.
Howells of St. Davids, B. Noakes, B.
Howie of Troon, L. Northbourne, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L. Northbrook, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L. Norton of Louth, L. [Teller]
Hussey of North Bradley, L. O'Cathain, B.
Imbert, L. Oliver of Aylmerton, L.
Inge, L. O'Neill of Bengarve, B.
Inglewood, L. Oxford, Bp.
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) Palmer, L.
Parekh, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L. Park of Monmouth, B.
Jellicoe, E. Patel, L.
Joffe, L. Patten, L.
Jones, L. Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Jopling, L. Peel, E.
Kilclooney, L. Pendry, L.
Kimball, L. Perry of Southwark, B.
King of Bridgwater, L. Peston, L.
King of West Bromwich, L. Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Kingsdown, L. Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Kirkham, L. Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Kirkhill, L. Platt of Writtle, B.
Knight of Collingtree, B. Plumb, L.
Laird, L. Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Lane of Horsell, L. Powell of Bayswater, L.
Lang of Monkton, L. Prashar, B.
Layard, L. Puttnam, L.
Lea of Crondall, L. Quinton, L.
Lichfield, Bp. Quirk, L.
Lipsey, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Listowel, E. Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Liverpool, E. Rawlings, B.
Lloyd of Berwick, L. Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Lockwood, B. Reay, L.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L. Rees, L.
Luke, L. Rees-Mogg, L.
Lyell, L. Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L. Renton, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L. Rix.L.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L. Roberts of Conwy, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. Russell-Johnston, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B. Ryder of Wensum, L.
Mackay of Clashfern, L. St. John of Bletso, L.
St John of Fawsley, L. Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Tombs, L.
Sandberg, L. Tomlinson, L.
Sandwich, E. Tordoff, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B. Trumpington, B.
Seccombe, B. Tugendhat, L.
Selborne, E. Turnberg, L.
Selsdon, L. Varley, L.
Sewel, L. Vincent of Coleshill, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L. Vinson, L.
Sheldon, L. Vivian, L.
Sheppard of Didgemere, L. Wakeham, L.
Simon, V. Waldegrave of North Hill, L.
Simon of Glaisdale, L. Walker of Worcester, L.
Skelmersdale, L. Walpole, L.
Skidelsky, L. Walton of Detchant, L.
Slim, V. Warner, L.
Slynn of Hadley, L. Warnock, B.
Stevens of Ludgate, L. Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Stewartby, L. Watson of Richmond, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L. Weatherill, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L. Whitaker, B.
Strabolgi, L. Wigoder, L.
Strange, B. Wilcox, B.
Sutherland of Houndwood, L. Wilkins, B.
Swinfen, L. Williams of Elvel, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Williamson of Horton, L.
Tanlaw, L. Willoughby de Broke, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L. Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Temple-Morris, L. Windlesharn, L.
Tenby, V. Winston, L
Thatcher, B. Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L. Wright of Richmond, L.

Resolved in the negative, and Motion disagreed to accordingly.

Lord Williams of Mostyn

My Lords, I beg to move the fifth Motion standing in my name on the Order Paper: 60 per cent appointed/40 per cent elected.

Moved, That this House approves Option 5 (60 per cent appointed/40 per cent elected) in the report from the Joint Committee on House of Lords Reform.— (Lord Williams of Mostyn.)

4.34 p.m.

On Question, Whether the said Motion (Option 5) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 60; Not-Contents, 358.

Division No. 5
CONTENTS
Addington, L. Dormand of Easington, L.
Adebowale, L. Dubs, L.
Alderdice, L. Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Alexander of Weedon, L. Freyberg, L.
Baker of Dorking, L. Fyfe of Fairfield, L.
Berkeley, L. Gale, B.
Bledisloe, V. Gardner of Parkes, B.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L. Goodhart, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B. Graham of Edmonton, L. [Teller]
Chandos, V.
Davies of Oldham, L. Henley, L.
Dholakia, L. Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Hoyle, L. Prys-Davies, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L. Quinton, L.
Jay of Paddington, B. Rea, L.
Jellicoe, E. Rennard, L.
Lloyd of Berwick, L. Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Lucas, L. Richard, L.
Ludford, B. Roper, L. [Teller]
McNally, L. Russell, E.
May of Oxford, L. Sawyer, L.
Selborne, E.
Mitchell, L. Stone of Blackheath, L.
Northbourne, L. Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L. Uddin, B.
O'Neill of Bengarve, B. Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Onslow, E. Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Parekh, L. Whitaker, B.
Perry of Walton, L. Williams of Crosby, B.
Pitkeathley, B. Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Prior, L. Wolfson, L.
NOT-CONTENTS
Ackner, L. Chan, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V. Chester, Bp.
Alli, L. Chorley, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L. Christopher, L.
Amos, B. Clark of Windermere, L.
Ampthill, L. Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B. Clinton-Davis, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L. Cobbold, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L. Coe, L.
Arran, E. Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Astor of Hever, L. Colville of Culross, V.
Attlee, E. Colwyn, L.
Bagri, L. Condon, L.
Barker, B. Cooke of Islandreagh, L.
Barnett, L. Cope of Berkeley, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L. Courtown, E.
Bhatia, L. Cox, B.
Biffen, L. Craig of Radley, L.
Billingham, B. Craigavon, V.
Birt, L. Crathome, L.
Black of Crossharbour, L. Crawley, B.
Blackstone, B. Crickhowell, L.
Blackwell, L. Croham, L.
Blaker, L. Cuckney, L.
Blatch, B. Dahrendorf, L.
Boothroyd, B. Darcy de Knayth, B.
Borrie, L. David, B.
Boston of Faversham, L. Davies of Coity, L. [Teller]
Bowness, L. Dean of Harptree, L.
Bramall, L. Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Brennan, L. Desai, L.
Brett, L. Dixon, L.
Bridges, L. Dixon-Smith, L.
Brightman, L. Donaldson of Lymington, L.
Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L. Donoughue, L.
Brookeborough, V. Dundee, E.
Brookman, L. Dunn, B.
Brougham and Vaux, L. Durham, Bp.
Burlison, L. Eden of Winton, L.
Burnham, L. Elder, L.
Burns, L. Elles, B.
Buscombe, B. Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Butler of Brockwell, L. Elton, L.
Byford, B. Erroll, E.
Caithness, E. Evans of Parkside, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L. Evans of Watford, L.
Campbell-Savours, L. Falkland, V.
Carey of Clifton, L. Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Carlile of Berriew, L. Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L. Fearn, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B. Feldman, L.
Carter, L. Ferrers, E.
Chadlington, L. Finlay of Llandaff, B.
Chalfont, L. Flather, B.
Fookes, B. Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L. Laneof Horsell, L.
Fowler, L. Layard, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Lea of Crondall, L.
Freeman, L. Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Garel-Jones, L. Lichfield, Bp.
Gavron, L. Lipsey, L.
Geraint, L. Listowel, E.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B. Liverpool, E.
Gilbert, L. Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L. Lockwood, B.
Glenarthur, L. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Glentoran, L. Luke, L.
Golding, B. Lyell, L.
Goldsmith, L. McColl of Dulwich, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L. Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
Goschen, V. MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
Gould of Potter newton, B.
Grabiner, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Gray of Contin, L. McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Greaves, L. Mackay of Clashfern, L.
Greengross, B. MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Greenway, L. Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Grenfell, L. Mackie of Benshie, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L. Maclennan of Rogart, L.
Grocott, L. Maddock, B.
Guildford, Bp. Mallalieu, B.
Habgood, L. Marlesford, L.
Hamwee, B. Marsh, L.
Hanham, B. Marshall of Knightsbridge, L.
Hannay of Chiswick, L. Masham of Ilton, B.
Hardy of Wath, L. Mason of Barnsley, L.
Harris of High Cross, L. Massey of Darwen, B.
Harris of Peckham, L. Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Harris of Richmond, B. Merlyn-Rees, L.
Harrison, L. Methuen, L.
Hayhoe, L. Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Hayman, B. Miller of Hendon, B.
Hereford, Bp. Mishcon, L.
Higgins, L. Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B. Monson, L.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L. Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L. Montrose, D.
Hollis of Heigham, B. Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Home, E. Moran. L.
Howe, E. Morgan of Huyton, B.
Howe of Aberavon. L. Morris of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B. Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Howell of Guildford, L. Moynihan, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B. Murton of Lindisfame, L.
Howie of Troon, L. Naseby, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L. Neill of Bladen, L.
Hunt of Chesterton, L. Newby, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Newton of Braintree, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L. Nickson, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L. Nicol, B.
Hylton, L. Noakes, B.
Imbert, L. Northbrook, L.
Inge, L. Northover, B.
Inglewood, L. Norton of Louth, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) O'Cathain, B.
Oliver of Aylmerton, L.
Jannerof Braunstone, L. Oxford, Bp.
Joffe, L. Palmer, L.
Jones, L. Park of Monmouth, B.
Jopling, L. Patel, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B. Patten, L.
Kilclooney, L. Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Kimball, L. Peel, E.
King of Bridgwater. L. Pendry, L.
King of West Bromwich, L. Perry of Southwark, B.
Kingsdown, L. Peston, L.
Kirkham, L. Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Kirkhill, L. Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B. Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Laird, L. Plant ofHighfield, L.
Platt of Writtle, B. Stodart of Leaston, L.
Plumb, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Strabolgi, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Strange, B.
Powell of Bayswater, L. Strathclyde, L.
Prashar, B. Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Puttnam, L. Swinfen, L. [Teller]
Quirk, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Tanlaw, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Rawlings, B. Temple-Morris, L.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L. Tenby, V.
Razzall, L. Thatcher, B.
Reay, L. Thomas of Gresford, L.
Redesdale, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Rees, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Rees-Mogg, L. Tombs, L.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L. Tomlinson, L.
Renton, L. Tope, L.
Rix, L. Tordoff, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L. Trefgarne, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L. Trumpington, B.
Rothenwick. L. Tugendhat, L.
Russell-Johnston, L. Turnberg, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L. Varley, L.
Vincent ot Coleshill, L.
St John of Fawsley, L. Vinson, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Vivian, L.
Sandberg, L. Waddington, L.
Sandwich, E. Wakeham, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B. Waldegrave of North Hill, L.
Seccombe, B. Walmsley, B.
Selsdon, L. Walpole, L.
Sewel, L. Walton of Detchant, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B. Warnock, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L. Watson of Richmond, L.
Sheldon, L. Weatherill, L.
Sheppard of Didgemere, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Shutt of Greetland, L. Whitty, L.
Simon, V. Wigoder, L.
Simon of Glaisdale, L. Wilcox, B.
Skelmersdale, L. Wilkins, B.
Skidelsky, L. Williams of Elvel, L.
Slim, V. Williams of Mostyn, L. (Lord Privy Seat)
Slynn of Hadley, L.
Smith of Clifton, L. Williamson of Horton, L.
Smith of Leigh, L. Willoughby de Broke, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L. Windlesham, L.
Stallard, L. Winston, L.
Stevens of Ludgate, L. Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Stewartby, L. Wright of Richmond, L.

Resolved in the negative, and Motion disagreed to accordingly.

Lord Williams of Mostyn

My Lords, I beg to move the sixth Motion standing in my name on the Order Paper: 60 per cent elected/40 per cent appointed.

Moved, That this House approves Option 6 (60 per cent elected/40 per cent appointed) in the report from the Joint Committee on House of Lords Reform.— (Lord Williams of Mostyn.)

4.52 p.m.

On Question, whether the said Motion (Option 6) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 91; Not-Contents, 317.

Division No. 6
CONTENTS
Acton, L. Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Addington, L. Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Adebowale, L. Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Alderdice, L. Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Alexander of Weedon, L. Lucas, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L. Ludford, B.
Amos, B. McNally, L.
Avebury, L. Maddock, B.
Baker of Dorking, L. Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Barker, B. Mitchell, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L. Moynihan, L.
Bragg, L. Newby, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L. Northover, B.
Caithness, E. Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Campbell-Savours, L. O'Neill of Bengalee, B.
Chandos, V. Onslow, E.
Clement-Jones, L. Parekh, L.
Colville of Culross, V. Pitkeathley, B.
David, B. Plant of Highfield, L.
Davies of Oldham, L. Prior, L.
Desai, L. Prys-Davies, L.
Dholakia L. Quinton, L.
Dixon, L. Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Dixon-Smith, L. Redesdale, L.
Dormand of Easington, L. Rendell of Babergh, B.
Dubs, L. Rennard, L.
Erroll, E. Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L. Richard, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L. Roper, L. [Teller]
Gale, B. Russell, E.
Goodhart, L. Selborne, E
Graham of Edmonton, L. [Teller] Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Greaves, L. Smith of Clifton, L.
Hamwee, B. Smith of Leigh. L.
Harris of Richmond, B. Stallard, L.
Henley, L. Taverne, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B. Thomas of Gresford, L.
Holme of Cheltenham, L. Tope, L.
Hooson, L. Trefgarne, L.
Hoyle, L. Uddin, B.
Hunt of Chesterton, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Walmsley, B.
Hylton, L. Williams of Crosby, B.
Jay of Paddington, B. Williams of Mostyn, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Joffe, L.
NOT-CONTENTS
Ackner, L. Boothroyd, B.
Allenby of Megiddo, V. Borrie, L.
Alli, L. Boston of Faversham. L.
Anelay of St Johns, B. Bowness, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L. Bramall, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L. Brennan, L.
Arran, E. Brett, L.
Astor of Hever, L. Brightman, L.
Attlee, E. Brigstocke, B.
Bagri, L. Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
Barnett, L. Brookeborough, V.
Beaumont of Whitley, L. Brookman, L.
Berkeley, L. Brougham and Vaux, L.
Biffen, L. Burlison, L.
Billingham, B. Burnham, L.
Birt, L. Burns, L.
Black of Crossharbour, L. Buscombe, B.
Blackstone, B. Butler of Brockwell, L.
Blackwell, L. Byford, B.
Blaker, L. Campbell of Alloway, L.
Blatch, B. Carey of Clifton, L.
Bledisloe, V. Carlileof Berriew, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L. Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B. Grocott, L.
Carter, L. Guildford, Bp.
Chadlington, L. Habgood, L.
Chalfont, L. Hanham, B.
Chalker of Wallasey, B. Hannay of Chiswick, L.
Chan, L. Hardy of Wath, L.
Chester, Bp. Harris of Peckham, L.
Chorley, L. Harrison, L.
Christopher, L. Hayhoe, L.
Clark of Windermere, L. Hayman, B.
Clarke of Hampstead, L. Higgins, L.
Clinton-Davis, L. Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Cobbold, L. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B. Hollis of Heigham, B.
Condon, L. Home, E.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L. Howe, E.
Cope of Berkeley, L. Howe of Aberavon, L.
Courtown, E. Howe of Idlicote, B.
Craig of Radley, L. Howell of Guildford, L.
Craigavon, V. Howells of St. Davids, B.
Crathorne, L. Howie of Troon, L.
Crawley, B. Hughes of Woodside, L.
Crickhowell, L. Hunt of Wirral, L.
Croham, L. Hurd of Westwell, L.
Cuckney, L. Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Dahrendorf, L. Inglewood, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B. Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Davies of Coity, L.
Dean of Harptree, L. Janner of Braunstone, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Jellicoe, E.
Donaldson of Lymington, L. Jones, L.
Donoughue, L. Jopling, L.
Dundee, E. Kilclooney, L.
Dunn, B. Kimball, L.
Durham, Bp. King of Bridgwater, L.
EdenofWinton, L. King of West Bromwich, L.
Elder, L. Kingsdown, L.
Elles, B. Kirkham, L.
Elliott of Morpeth, L. Kirkhill, L.
Elton, L. Knight of Collingtree, B.
Evans of Parkside, L. Laird, L.
Evans of Watford, L. Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Falkland, V. Lane of Horsell, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Layard, L.
Faulkner of Worcester, L. [Teller] Lea of Crondall, L.
Lichfield, Bp.
Fearn, L. Lipsey, L.
Feldman, L. Listowel, E.
Ferrers, E. Liverpool, E.
Finlay of Llandaff, B. Lockwood, B.
Flather, B. Lofthouseof Pontefract, L.
Fookes, B. Luke, L.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L. Lyell, L.
Fowler, L. McColl of Dulwich, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
Freeman, L. MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
Freyberg, L.
Garel-Jones, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Gavron, L. McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Geraint, L. Mackay of Clashfern, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B. MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Gilbert, L. Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L. Mackie of Benshie, L.
Glenarthur, L. Mallalieu, B.
Glentoran, L. Marlesford, L.
Golding, B. Marsh, L.
Goldsmith, L. Masham of Ilton, B.
Gordon of Strathblane, L. Mason of Barnsley, L.
Goschen, V. Massey of Darwen, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B. May of Oxford, L.
Grabiner, L. Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Gray of Contin, L. Merlyn-Rees, L.
Greengross, B. Methuen, L.
Greenway, L. Miller of Hendon, B.
Grenfell, L. Mishcon, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L. Sheppard of Didgemere, L.
Monson, L. Shrewsbury, E.
Montrose, D. Simon, V.
Moore of Wolvercote, L. Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Moran, L. Skelmersdale, L.
Morgan of Huyton, B. Skidelsky, L.
Morris of Manchester, L. Slim, V.
Mowbray and Stourton, L. Slynn of Hadley, L.
Murton of Lindisfame, L. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Naseby, L. Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Neill of Bladen, L. Stewartby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L. Stodart of Leaston, L.
Nicol, B. Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Noakes, B. Stone of Blackheath, L.
Northbourne, L. Strabolgi, L.
Northbrook, L. Strange, B.
Norton of Louth, L. [Teller] Strathclyde, L.
O'Cathain, B. Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Oliver of Aylmerton, L. Swinfen, L.
Oxford, Bp. Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Palmer, L. Tanlaw, L.
Park of Monmouth, B. Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L. Taylor of Warwick, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L. Temple-Morris, L.
Peel, E. Tenby, V.
Pendry, L. Thatcher, B.
Perry of Southwark, B. Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Peston, L. Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Phillips of Sudbury, L. Tombs, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Tomlinson, L.
Piatt of Writtle, B. Tordoff, L.
Plumb, L. Trumpington, B.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Tugendhat, L.
Powell of Bayswater, L. Tumberg, L.
Prashar, B. Varley, L.
Puttnam, L. Vincent of Coleshill, L.
Quirk, L. Vinson, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Vivian, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Waddington, L.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L. Wakeham, L.
Reay, L. Waldegrave of North Hill, L.
Rees, L. Walpole, L.
Rees-Mogg, L. Walton of Detchant, L.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L. Warner, L.
Renton, L. Warnock, B.
Rix, L. Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Roberts of Conwy, L. Watson of Richmond, L.
Rolloflpsden, L. Weatherill, L.
Rotherwick, L. Wedderbum of Charlton, L.
Russell-Johnston, L. Whitaker, B.
Ryder of Wensum, L. Wigoder, L.
St. John of Bletso, L. Wilcox, B.
St John of Fawsley, L. Wilkins, B.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Williams of Elvel, L.
Sandberg, L. Williamson of Horton, L.
Sandwich, E. Willoughby de Broke, L.
Seccombe, B. Wilson of Tillyom, L.
Selsdon, L. Windlesham, L.
Sewel, L. Winston, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L. Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Sheldon, L. Wright of Richmond, L.

Resolved in the negative, and Motion disagreed to accordingly.

Lord Williams of Mostyn

My Lords, I beg to move the final Motion standing in my name on the Order Paper: 50 per cent appointed/50 per cent elected.

Moved, That this House approves Option 7 (50 per cent appointed/50 per cent elected) in the report from the Joint Committee on House of Lords Reform.— (Lord Williams of Mostyn.)

5.9 p.m.

On Question, Whether the said Motion (Option 7) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 84; Not-Contents, 322.

Division No. 7
CONTENTS
Acton, L Lucas, L.
Addington, L. Ludford, B.
Adebowale, L. McNally, L.
Alderdice, L. Maddock, B.
Alexander of Weedon, L. May of Oxford, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L. Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Amos, B. Mitchell, L.
Andrews, B. Moynihan, L.
Avebury, L. Northover, B.
Baker of Dorking, L. Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L. O'Neill of Bengarve, B.
Bragg, L. Onslow, E.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L. Parekh, L.
Chandos, V. Pitkeathley, B.
Davies of Oldham, L. Plant of Highfield, L.
Desai, L. Prior, L.
Dholakia, L. Prys-Davies, L.
Dixon, L. Quinton, L.
Dormand of Easington, L. Razzall, L.
Dubs, L. Rea, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L. Redesdale, L.
Freyberg, L. Rennard, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L. Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Gale, B. Richard, L.
Goodhart, L. Roper, L. [Teller]
Graham of Edmonton, L. [Teller] Russell, E.
Sawyer, L.
Hamwee, B. Selborne, E.
Henley, L. Sharp of Guildford, B.
Hogg, B. Smith of Clifton, L.
Holme of Cheltenham, L. Smith of Leigh, L.
Hoyle, L. Taverne, L.
Hunt of Chesterton, L. Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Tope, L.
Hylton, L. Uddin, B.
Jay of Paddington, B. Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Joffe, L. Warnock, B.
Judd, L. Watson of Richmond, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B. Whitaker, B.
Lester of Heme Hill, L. Williams of Crosby, B.
Livsey of Talgarth, L. Williams of Mostyn, L.(Lord Privy Seat)
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lockwood, B. Wolfson, L.
NOT-CONTENTS
Ackner, L. Blackstone, B.
Allenby of Megiddo, V. Blackwell, L.
Alli, L. Blaker, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B. Blatch, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L. Bledisloe, V.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L. Boothroyd, B.
Arran, E. Bonie, L.
Astor of Hever, L. Boston of Faversham, L.
Attlee, E. Bowness, L.
Bagri, L. Bramall, L.
Barnett, L. Brennan, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L. Brett, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L. Brightman, L.
Biffen, L. Brigstocke, B.
Billingham, B. Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
Birt, L. Brookeborough, V.
Black of Crossharbour, L. Brookman, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L. Gavron, L.
Burlison, L. Geraint, L.
Burnham, L. Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Burns, L. Gilbert, L.
Buscombe, B. Gladwin of Gee, L.
Butler of Brockwell, L. Glenarthur, L.
Byford, B. Glentoran, L.
Caithness, E. Golding, B.
Campbell of Alloway, L. Goldsmith, L.
Campbell-Savours, L. Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Carey of Clifton, L. Gould of Potternewton, B.
Carlile of Berriew, L. Grabiner, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L. Gray of Contin, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B. Greengross, B.
Carter, L. Greenway, L.
Chadlington, L. Grenfell, L.
Chalfont, L. Grocott, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B. Guildford, Bp.
Chan, L. Hanham, B
Chester, Bp. Hannay of Chiswick, L.
Chorley, L. Hardy of Wath, L.
Christopher, L. Harris of High Cross, L.
Clark of Windermere, L. Harris of Peckham, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L. Harris of Richmond, B.
Clinton-Davis, L. Harrison, L.
Cobbold, L. Hayhoe, L.
Coe, L. Hayman, B,
Cohen of Pimlico, B. Higgins, L.
ColvilleofCulross, V. Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Colwyn, L. Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Condon, L. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L. Hollis of Heigham, B.
Cope of Berkeley, L. Home, E.
Courtown, E. Hooson, L.
Cox, B. Howe, E.
Craig of Radley, L. Howe of Aberavon, L.
Craigavon, V. Howe of Idlicote, B.
Crathorne, L. Howell of Guildford, L.
Crawley, B. Howells of St. Davids, B.
Crickhowell, L. Howie of Troon, L.
Croham, L. Hughes of Woodside, L.
Cuckney, L. HuntofWirral, L.
Dahrendorf, L. HurdofWestwell, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B. Hussey of North Bradley, L.
David, B. Inglewood, L.
Davies of Coity, L. Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Janner of Braunstone, L.
Dixon-Smith, L. Jellicoe, E.
Donaldson of Lymington, L. Jones, L.
Donoughue, L. Jopling, L.
Dundee, E. Kilclooney, L.
Dunn, B. Kimball, L.
Durham, Bp. King of Bridgwater, L.
Eden of Winton, L. King of West Bromwich, L
Elder, L. Kingsdown, L.
Elles, B. Kirkham, L.
Elliott of Morpeth, L. Kirkhill, L
Elton, L. Knight of Collingtree, B.
Erroll, E. Laird, L.
Evans of Parkside, L. Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Evans of Watford, L. LaneofHorsell, L.
Falkland, V. Lang of Monkton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Layard, L.
Faulkner of Worcester, L. [Teller] Lea of Crondall, L.
Lichfield, Bp.
Feani, L. Lipsey, L.
Ferrers, E. Listowel, E.
Finlay of Llandaff, B. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Flather, B. Luke, L.
Fookes, B. Lyell, L.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L. McColl of Dulwich, L.
Fowler, L. Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L. MacGregorof Pulham Market, L.
Freeman, L.
Garel-Jones, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Clashfern, L. St John of Fawsley, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L. Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L. Sandberg, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L. Sandwich, E.
Mallalieu, B. Scotland of Asthal, B.
Marlesford, L. Seccombe, B.
Marsh, L. Selsdon, L.
Mashamof Ilton, B. Sewel, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L. Shaw of Northstead, L.
Massey of Darwen, B. Sheldon, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L. Sheppard of Didgemere, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L. Shrewsbury, E.
Methuen, L. ShuttofGreetland, L.
Miller of Hendon, B. Simon, V.
Mishcon, L. Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L. Skelmersdale, L.
Monson, L. Skidelsky, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L. Slim, V.
Montrose, D. Slynn of Hadley, L.
Moore of Wolvercote, L. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Moran, L. Stallard, L.
Morgan of Huyton, B. Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Morris of Aberavon, L. Stewartby, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L. Stodart of Leaston, L.
Naseby, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Neill of Bladen, L. Stone of Blackheath, L.
Newton of Braintree, L. Strabolgi, L.
Nicol, B. Strange, B.
Noakes, B. Strathclyde, L.
Northbourne, L. Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Northbrook, L. Swinfen, L.
Norton of Louth, L. [Teller] Symons of Vemham Dean, B.
O'Cathain, B. Tanlaw, L.
Oliver of Aylmerton, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Oxford, Bp. Temple-Morris, L.
Palmer, L. Tenby, V.
Park of Monmouth, B. Thatcher, B.
Patel, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Patten, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L. Tombs, L.
Peel, E. Tomlinson, L.
Pendry, L. Tordoff, L.
Perry of Southwark, B. Trumpington, B.
Tugendhat, L.
Peston, L.Peyton of Yeovil, L. Turnberg, L.
Varley, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L. Vincent of Coleshill, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Vinson, L.
Platt of Writtle, B. Vivian, L.
Plumb, L. Waddington, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Wakeham, L.
Powell of Bayswater, L. Waldegrave of North Hill, L.
Puttnam, L. Walmsley, B.
Quirk, L. Walpole, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Walton of Detchant, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Warner, L.
Rawlings, B. Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L. Weatherill, L.
Reay, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Rees, L. Whitty, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B. Wigoder, L.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L. Wilcox, B.
Renton, L. Wilkins, B.
Richardson of Calow, B. Williams of Elvel, L.
Rix, L. Williamson of Horton, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L. Willoughby de Broke, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L. Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Rotherwick, L. Winston, L.
Russell-Johnston, L. Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L. Wright of Richmond, L.

Resolved in the negative, and Motion disagreed to accordingly.