HL Deb 07 July 1998 vol 591 cc1089-92

2.49 p.m.

The Earl of Drogheda asked Her Majesty's Government:

Whether an alternative site for a garden dedicated to the memory of the late Diana, Princess of Wales, could be found, in view both of the effect on Kensington Gardens of the one currently under discussion and of the need for more parks and gardens in other parts of London.

Lord McIntosh of Haringey

My Lords, people will continue to visit Kensington Gardens to remember Diana, Princess of Wales and the Diana, Princess of Wales Memorial Committee has advised the Government that, subject to public consultation, the gardens should be enhanced in a simple, elegant, dignified and sympathetic way as a place of remembrance.

A preliminary consultation exercise will open to the public on Friday, 10th July with an exhibition at the Albert Memorial Visitors Centre. A summary of the proposals and a questionnaire will be distributed to local residents of Kensington and Chelsea and Westminster asking for their comments by 7th August.

The Earl of Drogheda

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. But does he not agree that it is a shame to spend large amounts of money on a garden which is already very beautiful and which will certainly not be improved by that money? Does he not also agree that many areas of London are in great need of parks and gardens and would benefit not only from them but from the accompanying tourism, which would cause great detriment to the area around Kensington Gardens?

Lord McIntosh of Haringey

My Lords, the Diana, Princess of Wales Memorial Committee has been meeting since January of this year and has received more than 10,000 submissions with suggestions as to what projects should be undertaken in memory of the Princess. Overwhelmingly, the largest single response was in the form of requests for gardens and in particular for an enhancement of Kensington Gardens. Whether we like it or not, Kensington Gardens are already a place of memorial for the Princess. The numbers of people going there have increased from 2.8 million a year in 1995 to 5 million in the past year. This is simply a recognition of what people want. As to the point about other parks and gardens, of course they can be considered and the Government Office for London and the London Planning Advisory Committee are carrying out a major study of the adequacy of provision of parks and gardens in the London area.

Lord Strabolgi

My Lords, is my noble friend aware that a site to the north of Kensington Palace would be preferable and slightly less disruptive than one to the south, which I think is quite unacceptable? Has he considered the effect this will have on the embassies in Kensington Palace Gardens? Many of their gardens abut on Kensington Gardens and they will be considerably disturbed. I am thinking particularly of the residencies of the French Ambassador and the Russian Ambassador.

Lord McIntosh of Haringey

My Lords, I do not want to anticipate the consultation process which will start on Friday but I do not think it is unreasonable for me to say that the intention is that any changes in the southern part of the western end of Kensington Gardens should be as simple as possible and that in the northern end, which has better public transport and already has a coach park, it will be more possible to carry out imaginative changes such as more provision for children and the disabled. As to the embassies, the Paddock lies between Kensington Gardens and the back gardens of the embassies.

Lord Blaker

My Lords, is it possible to believe that the affection in which the memory of Princess Diana is held will be enhanced by the creation of a permanent traffic jam in Kensington?

Lord McIntosh of Haringey

My Lords, we have to recognise what people think, what they feel and what they want to do. They are already going to Kensington Gardens and will do so whether or not there is a memorial to the Princess in the gardens. The indication I have given that the emphasis will be on the north end rather than on the south end ought to reassure the noble Lord to some extent.

The Earl of Carnarvon

My Lords, has the Secretary of State called in this application as a change of use?

Lord McIntosh of Haringey

My Lords, we are a long way off that. After consultation there will be further proposals. My understanding is that when those further proposals are developed it will be treated as Crown development under the 1984 order.

Lord Montague of Oxford

My Lords, can consideration be given to the Mile End Park, which is to have some £20 million spent on it almost immediately, £10 million of which is coming from the Millennium Commission? As my noble friend will know, the park is only one mile away from the City. It is a fine park and is in an area where Princess Diana did a great deal of wonderful work for the people and where the thought of her presence would be greatly welcomed.

Lord McIntosh of Haringey

My Lords, that is a welcome and valuable suggestion which I am sure the memorial committee will consider. My noble friend is right about the Mile End Park, which has been a very long time in development but is now starting to show its true potential.

Lord Ewing of Kirkford

My Lords, when does my noble friend think we will get to the stage when Princess Diana will be allowed to sleep in peace and we will get rid of all this debate?

Lord McIntosh of Haringey

My Lords, I am only reflecting, on behalf of the Government, the representations which have been made to them by the Diana, Princess of Wales Memorial Committee, which includes a representative of the Royal Household, representatives of her family, and others who are concerned. The individual feelings of all of us must play a part in our response to that. But there can be no doubt that there is a public outpouring of feeling and that there are many people who believe that that should have a physical expression in the form of the projects which the committee is proposing.

Baroness O'Cathain

My Lords, would it be possible to extend the consultation period from four weeks? Whereas the memorial committee has had six or seven months to consider the matter, the residents of Kensington and other people who are interested will have only from 10th July to 7th August to do so. Bearing in mind that summer holidays and other things are going on at the moment, would it not be possible to extend the period by around four weeks?

Lord McIntosh of Haringey

My Lords, I take the noble Baroness's point. But the consultation exercise is being started before the main holiday period, at least as far as your Lordships are concerned. An extension of another four weeks would probably not be particularly effective. The consultation will be thorough. In addition to the exhibition at the Albert Memorial Visitors Centre, questionnaires will be distributed house to house to all of the local residents. I hope that within a four-week period they will have an opportunity to respond.