HL Deb 30 January 1996 vol 568 cc1361-4

6.37 p.m.

Lord Dubs rose to move to resolve, That this House calls on Her Majesty's Government, following the implementation of the Social Security (Persons from Abroad) Miscellaneous Amendments Regulations 1996 (S.I. 1996/30), to ensure that a person who submits a claim for asylum after entry into the United Kingdom, who has dependent children living with him or her and lacks the means to support those children, is eligible for a discretionary hardship payment sufficient to care for and maintain those children.

The noble Lord said: My Lords, I shall be extremely brief. To judge by the Minister's argument in the debate, the Government feel that every asylum seeker ought to claim asylum at the port of entry. We know that not all of them will do so, despite the new proposals that the Government adopt. Therefore, families with children will inevitably suffer hardship. My Motion seeks to address that point. I do not believe that to use the Children Act and to place the responsibility on local authorities is satisfactory. I believe that throughout the House there is a sense of unease at what may happen to children. For that reason, I have today put down this Motion, which I hope will command wide support. I beg to move.

6.38 p.m.

On Question, Whether the said Motion shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 126; Not-Contents, 169.

Division No. 2
Acton, L. Blease, L.
Addington, L. Borrie, L.
Airedale, L. Brentford, V.
Ashley of Stoke, L. Bridges, L.
Attlee, E. Broadbridge, L.
Avebury, L. Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Bancroft, L. Carter, L.
Barnett, L. Castle of Blackburn, B.
Beaumont of Whitley, L. Chelmsford, Bp.
Berkeley, L. Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Birk, B. Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L Mackie of Benshie, L.
David, B. McNally, L.
Dean of Beswick, L. McNair, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Mallalieu, B.
Desai, L. Mar, C.
Diamond, L. Masham of Ilton, B.
Donaldson of Kingsbridge, L. Mason of Barnsley, L.
Dormand of Easington, L. Mayhew, L.
Dubs, L. Merlyn-Rees, L.
Elis-Thomas, L. Meston, L.
Ezra, L. Milner of Leeds, L.
Falkender, B. Mishcon, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Monkswell, L.
Freyberg, L. Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Gallacher, L. Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Geraint, L. Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L. Nathan, L.
Glenamara, L. Nicol, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L. [Teller.] Ogmore, L.
Gregson, L. Palmer, L.
Grey, E. Peston, L.
Hamwee, B. Prys-Davies, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L. Rea, L.
Haskel, L. Redesdale, L.
Hayman, B. Richard, L.
Healey, L. Ripon, Bp.
Henderson of Brompton, L. Robson of Kiddington, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B. Rochester, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B. Runciman of Doxford, V.
Howell, L. Russell, E. [Teller.]
Howie of Troon, L. St. John of Bletso, L.
Hughes, L. Sandwich, E.
Hutchinson of Lullington, L. Seear, B.
Hylton, L. Sefton of Garston, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L. Scrota, B.
Jay of Paddington, B. Shepherd, L.
Jeger, B. Strabolgi, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L. Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L Thurso, V.
Judd, L. Tope, L.
Kilbracken, L. Tordoff, L.
Kinloss, Ly. Turner of Camden, B.
Kirkwood, L. Varley, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Lincoln, Bp. Walpole, L.
Listowel, E. Wedderbum of Charlton, L.
Lockwood, B. Whaddon, L.
Longford, E. White, B.
Lovell-Davis, L. Wigoder, L.
Macaulay of Bragar, L. Williams of Crosby, B.
McGregor of Durris, L. Williams of Elvel, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. Winston, L.
Aberdare, L. Bruntisfield, L.
Abinger, L. Butterworth, L.
Addison, V. Cadman, L.
Ailsa, M. Caithness, E.
Allenby of Megiddo, V. Campbell of Alloway, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L. Campbell of Croy, L.
Astor of Hever, L. Camegy of Lour, B.
Banbury of Southam, L. Carnock, L.
Barber, L. Carr of Hadley, L.
Barber of Tewkesbury, L. Chelmsford, V.
Belhaven and Stenton, L. Chesham, L.[Teller.]
Belstead, L. Clanwilliam. E.
Blaker, L. Clark of Kempston, L.
Blatch, B. Cochrane of Cults, L.
Boardman, L. Colwyn, L.
Boyd-Carpenter, L. Courtown, E.
Brabazon of Tara, L. Cox, B.
Braine of Wheatley, L. Craigmyle, L.
Bridgman, V. Cranbome, V. [Lord Privy Seal.]
Brigstocke, B. Crathome, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L. Cross, V.
Cumberlege, B. Macleod of Borve, B.
Darcy (de Knayth), B. Mancroft, L.
Dean of Harptree, L. Marlesford, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B. Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Derwent, L. Merriale, L.
Devonport, V. Mersey, V.
Dixon-Smith, L. Middleton, L.
Downshire, M. Miller of Hendon, B.
Dundonald, E. Monk Bretton, L.
Dunrossil, V. Mottistone, L.
Eden of Winton, L. Mountevans, L.
Ellenborough, L. Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Elles, B. Munster. E.
Elliott of Morpeth, L. Murton of Lindisfame, L.
Erne, E. Newall, L.
Ferrers, E. Northesk, E.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L. O'Cathain, B.
Gainford, L. Onslow, E.
Gainsborough, E. Orkney, E.
Geddes, L. Orr-Ewing, L.
Gisborough, L. Park of Monmouth, B.
Goschen, V. Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Gray of Contin, L. Pender, L.
Greenway, L. Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L. Phillimore, L.
Grimston of Westbury, L. Pike, B.
Haig, E. Rankeillour, L.
Hailsham of Saint Marylebone, L. Rawlings, B.
Harding of Petherton, L. Reay, L.
Hardwicke, E. Rennell, L.
Harlech, L. Romney, E.
Harmar-Nicholls, L. Saint Albans, D.
Harmsworth, L Saint Oswald, L.
Harris of High Cross, L. Seccombe, B.
Harrowby, E. Selbome, E.
Hayhoe, L. Shaw of Northstead, L.
Henley, L. Sheffield, L.
Holderness, L. Skelmersdale, L.
HolmPatrick, L. Stockton, E.
Hooper, B. Stodart of Leaston, L.
Hothfield, L. Strathcarron, L.
Howe, E. Strathclyde, L. [Teller.]
Hylton-Foster, B. Strathcona and Mount Royal, L.
Inglewood, L. Sudeley, L.
Jenkin of Roding, L. Swinfen, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L. Tebbit, L.
Kimball, L. Teynham, L.
King of Wartnaby, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Kingsland, L. Torrington, V.
Lauderdale. E. Trefgame, L.
Lawrence, L. Trumpington, B.
Leigh, L. Tugendhat, L.
Lindsay, E Ullswater, V.
Lindsey and Abingdon, E. Vivian, L.
Liverpool, E. Wakeham, L.
Long, V. Waverley, V.
Lucas, L. Westbury, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L. Wharton. B.
Lyell, L. Whitelaw, V.
McColl of Dulwich, L. Wilberforce, L.
McConnell, L. Wolfson, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L. Wynford, L.
Mackay of Clashfern, L. [Lord Chancellor.] Young. B.
Zouche of Haryngworth, L.

Resolved in the negative, and Motion disagreed to accordingly.