HL Deb 02 May 1995 vol 563 cc1351-4

14 Clause 19, page 9, line 43, leave out "the proposed provision of a" and insert "any".

15 Page 9, line 44, leave out from "improvement" to "is" in line 45 and insert "the tenant under a farm business tenancy".

16 Page 10, line 8, at end insert "but this subsection has effect subject to subsections (1A) and (2) below. (1A) No notice under subsection (1) above may be given in relation to any tenant's improvement which the tenant has already provided or begun to provide, unless that improvement is a routine improvement.".

17 Page 10, line 21, after "RICS", insert "subject to subsection (7A) below".

18 Page 10, line 25, leave out "proposed".

19 Page 10, line 26, at beginning insert "Subject to subsection (7A) below".

20 Page 10, line 27, leave out "proposed".

21 Page 10, line 35, at end insert: (7A) Where, at any time after giving a notice under subsection (1) above in relation to any tenant's improvement which is not a routine improvement, the tenant begins to provide the improvement—

  1. (a) no application may be made under subsection (3) above after that time,
  2. (b) where such an application has been made but no arbitrator has been appointed before that time, the application shall be ineffective, and
  3. (c) no award may be made by virtue of subsection (5) above after that time except as to the costs of the reference and award in a case where the arbitrator was appointed before that time.
() For the purposes of this section— 'fixed equipment' includes any building or structure affixed to land and any works constructed on, in, over or under land, and also includes anything grown on land for a purpose other than use after severance from the land, consumption of the thing grown or its produce, or amenity; 'routine improvement', in relation to a farm business tenancy, means any tenant's improvement which—
  1. (a) is a physical improvement made in the normal course of farming the holding or any part of the holding, and
  2. (b) does not consist of fixed equipment or an improvement to fixed equipment,
but does not include any improvement whose provision is prohibited by the terms of the tenancy.".

22 Clause 22, page 11, line 47, at end insert: ( ) Where—

  1. (a) an application under subsection (3) above relates wholly or partly to compensation in respect of a routine improvement (within the meaning of section 19 of this Act) which the tenant has provided or has begun to provide, and
  2. (b) that application is made at the same time as an application under section 19(3) of this Act relating to the provision of that improvement,
the President of the RICS shall appoint the same arbitrator on both applications and, if both applications are made by the same person, only one fee shall be payable by virtue of section 30(1) of this Act in respect of them.".

Earl Howe

My Lords, with the leave of the House, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 14 to 22 en bloc.

The noble Lord, Lord Gallacher, raised the subject of compensation for tenant-right matters during Committee, Report stage and at Third Reading. Similar concerns were also expressed in another place. The above group of amendments responds to those concerns.

Under the Bill all improvements require landlord's consent in order to be eligible for compensation. In cases where consent is refused, the tenant has the right to go to arbitration (except in the case of planning permission). The concern was that some tenants, being used to the different approach in the 1986 Act, might not realise that they needed landlord's consent for certain routine operations for which they later intended to claim compensation. That point has now been addressed.

The Government have reflected carefully and come up with an approach which can cover tenant-right matters such as growing crops, applying fertiliser and other individual routine acts of husbandry which add value to the holding, including those which add only a small amount of value compared with the overall value of the holding. The amendments to Clause 19 will ensure that a tenant can carry out "routine improvements" of that kind without losing the right to arbitration if for any reason the landlord withholds consent for them. This approach has the support of the Industry Group.

Moved, That the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendments Nos. 14 to 22 en bloc.—(Earl Howe.)

Lord Stodart of Leaston

My Lords, I have absolutely no locus in the debate as I farm in Scotland, to which the Bill does not apply, but, nevertheless, I have been a practical farmer for many years. I have studied the drafting of Amendment No. 21 as regards "fixed equipment". I congratulate the draftsmen on producing it, but wonder whether my noble friend the Minister will be kind enough to tell me exactly what it means.

Earl Howe

My Lords, I believe that there is an explanation in the Marshalled List regarding the meaning of the term. It says that "fixed equipment", includes any building or structure affixed to land and any works constructed on, in, over or under land, and also includes anything grown on land for a purpose other than use after severance from the land, consumption of the thing grown or its produce, or amenity". While the draftsmen are most certainly to be complimented on their phraseology, I would not wish to elaborate on such excellent wording. However, if my noble friend is still in doubt, I shall he glad to elucidate the matter further after today's proceedings.

Lord Stodart of Leaston

My Lords, I shall be most obliged if my noble friend will do so.

Lord Carter

My Lords, in fact, I was about to ask the same question. When I looked at the definition of "fixed equipment", I could not for the life of me think of anything that would not be caught by the description of, anything grown on land for a purpose other than use after severance from the land, consumption … its produce, or amenity". What is left? I just cannot think of anything else that would be "fixed equipment" under that definition. However, while I am making other points on the group of amendments it is possible that the answer may suddenly appear.

I am extremely grateful to the Minister for referring to the approval of the Industry Group. Indeed, I should have been most disappointed if we had got through the Commons amendments without having the blessing of that group. However, when the Minister says that the amendments respond to the arguments that were made, that is a pretty cool statement bearing in mind all the arguments that we were given in the House during the Bill's passage as to why compensation for tenant right could not be paid. We are pleased that the Government have now accepted the argument.

I also congratulate the draftsmen on the idea of the "routine improvement" which I believe catches the sort of things that we discussed. Obviously the basis of the valuation will be left to the parties to determine. That is clear. Moreover, in the case of what we used to call tenant right, it will now be the incoming tenant who pays, and again it will be up to the parties to determine that between themselves. As I said, it is clear and it meets the points that have been made, as I understand it, for those things which the tenant thought he would be compensated for in the normal course of business. But if such things have been forgotten, the new provision will cover the situation. We are all waiting with baited breath for the explanation of "fixed equipment".

On Question, Motion agreed to.