§ Lord HeskethMy Lords, with the leave of the House, I should like to say a word about the two debates standing in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Bonham-Carter, and the noble Lord, Lord Ezra. As the mover is allowed 15 minutes and the Minister should rise to reply not less than 20 minutes before the scheduled end of the debate, in the case of both debates this means that all other speeches should he limited to a maximum of 12 minutes. If any noble Lord were to speak at greater length, he would be doing so at the expense of subsequent speakers in the debate. Perhaps I may once again draw noble Lords' attention to the fact that when the digital timing device shows "12" it means that we have entered the 13th minute.