§ The Earl of Strathmore and KinghorneMy Lords, with the leave of the House I should like to say a word about the two debates standing in the names of my noble friend Lord St. Davids and the noble Lord, Lord Judd. As the mover is allowed 15 minutes and the Minister should rise to reply not less than 20 minutes before the scheduled end of the debate, in the case of the short debate in the name of my noble friend Lord. St. Davids this means that all other speeches should be limited to a maximum of 10 minutes and in that of the noble Lord, Lord Judd, eight minutes. If any noble Lord were to speak at greater length he would be doing so at the expense of subsequent speakers in that debate.