§ Lord HeskethMy Lords, with the leave of the House, I should like to say a word about the two debates standing in the names of my noble friends Lady Seccombe and Lord Wade of Chorlton. As the mover is allowed 15 minutes and the Minister should rise to reply not less than 20 minutes before the scheduled end of the debate, in the case of the short debate in the name of my noble friend Lady Seccombe all other speeches should be limited to a maximum of nine minutes and in that of my noble friend Lord Wade of Chorlton 12 minutes. If any noble Lord were to speak at greater length he would be doing so at the expense of subsequent speakers in that debate. Perhaps I may remind your Lordships that when the clock indicates five minutes the sixth minute has already commenced.