§ Viscount DavidsonMy Lords, as my noble friend the Chief Whip has been sent on a course today perhaps I may say a word about this afternoon's short debates standing in the names of the noble Baroness, Lady David, and the noble Lord, Lord Donoughue. As the mover is allowed 15 minutes and the Minister should rise to reply not less than 20 minutes before the scheduled end of the debate, in the case of the short debate in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady David, the number of speakers is such that it is not necessary to propose a formal time limit. However, I am sure that noble Lords will agree that it would conform with the spirit of these short debates if they kept their speeches within the 15 minutes which apply to the mover of the Motion. In the case of the short debate in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Donoughue, all other speeches should be limited to a maximum of 14 minutes. If any noble Lord should speak at greater length he would do so at the expense of subsequent speakers in the debate.