§ Lord DenhamMy Lords, with the leave of the House, I should like to say a word about the two short debates standing in the names of my noble friends Lord Kindersley and Lord Selkirk. As is the custom in short debates, the mover is allowed approximately 15 minutes and the Minister should rise to reply not less than 20 minutes before the scheduled end of the debates. In the case of the noble Lord's debate all other speeches should be limited to a maximum of eight minutes and in that of the noble Earl to 12½ minutes. If any noble Lord should speak at greater length, it would be at the expense of subsequent speakers in that debate.