§ The Earl of SwintonMy Lords, with the leave of the House I should like to say a brief word about the length of speeches in this afternoon's debate standing in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Nicol, to which your Lordships have agreed to apply a five-hour time limit. On the principle that the mover is allowed approximately 20 minutes and that the Minister should rise to reply not less than 25 minutes before the scheduled end of the debate, all other speeches should be limited to a strict upper limit of 18 minutes. If any noble Lord were to speak at greater length be would be doing so at the expense of other speakers in the debate.