HL Deb 11 November 1954 vol 189 cc1405-8

1. In this Schedule, the expression "at a material date" means at either of the following dates, that is to say—

  1. (a) the appointed day; or
  2. (b) the date by reference to which this Schedule falls to be applied in the particular case in question:

Provided that sub-paragraph (b) of this paragraph shall not apply in relation to any building works or use of land in respect of which, whether before or after the date mentioned in that sub-paragraph, an enforcement notice served before that date has become or becomes effective.

2. Where, after the appointed day, any buildings or works have been erected or constructed, or any use of land has been instituted, and any condition imposed under Part II of this Act limiting the period for which those buildings or works may be retained or that use may be continued is of effect in relation thereto, this Schedule not operate except as respects the period specified in that condition.")—(The Earl of Selkirk.)

Seventh Schedule, as amended, agreed to.

Eighth Schedule (Enactments Repealed]:

THE LORD CHANCELLOR

This Amendment is consequential. I beg to move.

Amendment moved— Page 94, line 11, leave out from the beginning to end of line 13.—(The Lord Chancellor.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

THE EARL OF SELKIRK

This is a drafting Amendment. I beg to move.

Amendment moved— Page 94, line 15, column 3, leave out ("and subsection (5)") and insert ("subsection (5), and in subsection (6) the words from 'or a' to 'section eighteen of this Act' and the words from 'or as' to 'said section eighteen';").—(The Earl of Selkirk.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

THE LORD CHANCELLOR

This is a consequential Amendment. I beg to move.

Amendment moved— Page 94, line 22, column 3, leave out from ("(4)") to end of line 28.—(The Lord Chancellor.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

THE LORD CHANCELLOR

This is also consequential. I beg to move.

Amendment moved— Page 94, line 29, leave out lines 29 to 36.—(The Lord Chancellor.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

THE EARL OF SELKIRK

This is consequential. I beg to move.

Amendment moved— Page 94, line 45, column 3, at end add ("and subsections (5) to (7).")—(The Earl of Selkirk.)

On Question, Amendment agreed to.

Eighth Schedule, as amended, agreed to.

On Question, That the Bill be reported to the House with Amendments:

6.56 p.m.

LORD SALTOUN

We have had a great many Amendments to this Bill, of which all the Government Amendments have been passed, and on some of the Amendments moved by noble Lords on the Back Benches consideration has been promised by Her Majesty's Government. I should like to suggest to the Government that it might be better if we recommitted the Bill on the next stage, and then took the Report and the Third Reading together. There are not many Amendments, and I think Her Majesty's Government will acknowledge that we have not been very "long-winded" in arguing them. That will give noble Lords a better chance of discussing them at the next stage.

THE LORD CHANCELLOR

I will certainly consider the suggestion. It was not in my mind before my noble friend spoke, and I shall have to consult my noble friend the Leader of the House and others before I come to any conclusion. I do not think I can say more at the moment.

THE MARQUESS OF SALISBURY

There is just this point. We shall have to know whether noble Lords opposite would object to taking the Report stage and the Third Reading on the same day. It may be done, but only by leave of the House.

LORD SILKIN

What was going through my mind was that if this is a desirable step to take in respect of the Scottish Bill then, a fortiori, it is desirable in respect of the English Bill. I am not sure whether it would be workable to have the Third Reading on the same day as the Report stage, because there might still be some outstanding Amendments. This is a difficult Bill, and we go on hoping that we may induce the Government to make improvements as we go along. We may even be successful on the Report stage, and they may give undertakings, in which case the suggestion made would not be workable because it would not give the Government an opportunity of incorporating any Amendments in the Third Reading. I think there should be at least a day or two between the two stages. On the general question as to whether we should recommit, I think if you do this with the Scottish Bill, you certainly ought to do it with the English Bill. I personally would not object to the Third Reading being taken on the day after, but I think to take it on the same day would make discussion unrealistic.

THE MARQUESS OF SALISBURY

I am afraid that, in the circumstances, we could not concur with Lord Saltoun's suggestion. I would have been glad to do so, but the time factor is a vital one, and I am afraid that the suggestion which the noble Lord, Lord Silkin, has made—which is quite proper for him to make—rules that out.

On Question, Motion agreed to.

House resumed.

House adjourned at one minute past seven o' clock.