HL Deb 24 June 1930 vol 78 cc84-6

Leave out clause 11.

Leave out clause 12.

Clause 13, page 18, line 25, leave out ("Coal Mines Reorganisation Commission") and insert ("Board of Trade")

Clause 13, page 18, line 33, leave out ("Commissoners") and insert ("Board")

Clause 13, page 18, line 35, leave out ("of Trade") line 40, leave out ("Commissioners") in both places and insert ("Board") in both places.

Clause 13, page 18, line 41, leave out ("and submit")

Clause 13, page 18, line 42, leave out ("to the Board of Trade")

Clause 13, page 18, line 43, leave out ("and submitted by the Commission")

Page 19, line 14, leave out ("submitted by the Coal Mines Reorganisation Commission") and insert ("prepared by the Board of Trade under this section")

Page 19, line 33, leave out ("submitted to the Board of Trade") and insert ("referred to the Railway and Canal Commission")

Page 19, line 35, leave out ("Coal Mines Reorganisation Commission") and insert ("Board of Trade")

Page 19, line 40, leave out ("Coal Mines Reorganisation Commission") and insert ("Board")

Page 20, line 1, leave out subsection (5).

Page 20, lines 8 and 9, leave out ("Coal Mines Reorganisation Commission") and insert ("Board of Trade")

The Commons disagree to the above Amendments for the following Reason:Because they consider it preferable to establish a body of Commissioners with special qualifications for the purposes of Part II of the Bill, rather than to extend the functions of the Board of Trade to matters outside the ordinary province of a Government Department.

THE MARQUESS OF SALISBURY

My Lords, here I am glad that for a very brief space harmony is restored between the two Front Benches. I am going to move that your Lordships do not insist upon these Amendments, which embodied the substitution of the Board of Trade for the Reorganisation Commission. I recognise, of course, that we are asking your Lordships to go back upon a decision which was taken with great deliberation and which I believe to be a perfectly right derision. At the same time there are, undoubtedly, elements to be considered which, as I have already had an opportunity of saying to your Lordships a short time ago, lead us to hesitate a little bit before we insist upon these Amendments. In the interests, therefore, of a safer form of legislation, and of conciliation, I move that this House do not insist upon these Amendments.

Moved, That this House doth not insist upon the said Atinendments.—(The Marquess of Salisbury.)

THE UNDER-SECRETARY OF STATE FOR INDIA (EARL RUSSELL)

My Lords, when the noble Marquess said that harmony was now restored for a moment between the two Front Benches, I thought I might allude to the opening remarks which he made to your Lordships, which very much struck me. He spoke, it seemed to me, in a sort of pained and diffident manner, almost as if he were the leader of a forlorn hope, and fearful of success, and I could not help wondering whether my eyes deceived me when I looked at the Benches opposite, the usual occupants of which were overflowing on to this side of the House. Apparently when we came to the first Division the noble Marquess was not so much without support as might appear from the plaintive character of his speech. I am not sure whether on reflection your Lordships are taking a wise course in insisting upon the Amendments which have been insisted upon. It is possible that there may be considerable difficulties arising in the matter, and I think under the leadership of the noble Marquess you are rather light-heartedly insisting upon considerable alterations of the framework of the Bill. It may be a satisfaction to the noble Marquess to know that he has so much support in insisting upon the duty of this House to act as a revising Chamber and make such important alterations in important Bills.