Lords Sitting of 13 March 1900

PRIVATE BILL BUSINESS.
THE LORD CHANCELLORacquainted the House that the Clerk of the Parliaments had laid upon the Table the Certificate from the Examiners that the further Standing Orders applicable to the following Bill have been complied with:—
Hammond (G.H.) Company [H.L.]
The same was ordered to lie on the Table.

PRIVATE BILL BUSINESS.
  ARMY AND NAVY INVESTMENT TRUST BILL [H.L.]
  DONEGAL RAILWAY BILL [H.L.]
  Committed for Friday next.
  FOLKESTONE, SANDGATE, AND HYTHE TRAMROADS BILL [H.L.]
  Committed; the Committee to be proposed by the Committee of Selection.
  LANCASHIRE INEBRIATES ACTS BOARD BILL [H.L.]
  Committee to meet on Friday next.
  IPSWICH CORPORATION TRAMWAYS BILL [H.L.]
    LINCOLN CORPORATION (TRAMWAYS) BILL [H.L.]
    Report from the Select Committee, That the Committee had not proceeded with the consideration of the Bills, no parties having appeared in opposition thereto; read, and ordered to lie on the Table; the orders made on the 23rd of February, and Tuesday last discharged; and Bills committed.
  FALKIRK CORPORATION BILL [H.L.]
  Report from the Select Committee, That the Committee had not proceeded with the consideration of the Bill, no parties having appeared in opposition thereto; read, and ordered to lie on the Table; the orders made on the 23rd of February and Tuesday last discharged; and Bill committed.
  DUNDEE HARBOUR BILL [H.L.]
  Reported with Amendments.
  PURFLEET AND GRAVESEND JUNCTION RAILWAY BILL [H.L.]
  Read 2a(according to order).
  LONDON, BRIGHTON, AND SOUTH COAST RAILWAY BILL [H.L.]
    GLYNCORRWG URBAN DISTRICT COUNCIL GAS BILL [H.L.]

      CLEETHORPES GAS BILL [H.L.]
      FISHGUARD WATER AND GAS BILL [H.L.].
      BARRY RAILWAY (STEAM VESSELS) BILL [H.L.].
      MOUNTAIN ASH WATER BILL [H.L.].
      COWES PIER BILL [H.L.].
      PAIGNTON URBAN DISTRICT WATER BILL [H.L.].
      EXMOUTH URBAN DISTRICT WATER BILL [H.L.].
      EXMOUTH AND DISTRICT WATER BILL [H.L.].
      Report from the Committee of Selection, That the following Lords be proposed to the House to form the Select Committee for the consideration of the said Bills (namely):—

      E. Stamford,

      V. Templetown,

      L. Elgin (E. Elgin and Kincardine) (chairman),

      L. Napier.

      L. Somerton (E. Normanton);

      agreed to; and the said Lords appointed accordingly: The Committee to meet on Wednesday, the 21st instant, at Eleven o'clock; and all petitions referred to the Committee, with leave to the petitioners praying to be heard by counsel against the Bills to be heard as desired, as also counsel for the Bills.

  ST. DAVID'S RAILWAY (ABANDONMENT) BILL.
    DUBLIN ELECTRIC LIGHTING BILL.
      BLACKPOOL, ST. ANNE'S AND LYTHAM TRAMWAYS BILL.
      Examiner's Certificates of non-compliance with the Standing Orders referred to the Standing Orders Committee on Monday next.
RETURNS, REPORTS, ETC.
  AFRICA, No. 2 (1900).
  Correspondence with the Presidents of the South African Republic and of the Orange Free State respecting the war. Presented (by command), and ordered to lie on the Table.
  LONDON GOVERNMENT ACT, 1899 (METROPOLITAN BOROUGHS).
  Drafts of Orders in Council for the establishment of each of the under-mentioned Metropolitan Boroughs and incorporating the Council thereof, and for other purposes connected therewith:—Battersea, Bermondsey, Bethnal Green, Deptford, Fulham, Greenwich, Hackney, Hammersmith, Hampstead, Islington, Lambeth, Lewisham, Poplar, St. Marylebone, Shoreditch, Southwark, Stoke Newington, Wandsworth, and Woolwich. Laid before the House (pursuant to Act), and to be printed. (No. 27.)
YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS BILL [H.L.]
Petition against; of superintendent and teachers of the Congregational Sunday-school, Eccles; read, and ordered to lie on the Table.
NEW BILL.
  PALATINE COURT OF DURHAM BILL [H.L.]
  A Bill to amend the law relating to the Court of Chancery of the County Palatine of Durham was presented by the Lord Chancellor; read 1a; and to be printed. (No. 28.)
  MONEY LENDING BILL [H.L.]
  Reported from the Standing Committee with amendments: The Report thereof to be received on Thursday next; and Bill to be printed as amended. (No. 29.)

  SOUTH AFRICAN WAR—OVERTURES BY THE REPUBLICS FOR PEACE.
  THE EARL OF KIMBERLEY: As the noble Marquess the head of the Government is in his place, I wish to ask him a question of which I have given him private notice—namely, whether he is in a position to state to the House any answer which Her Majesty's Government have thought fit to give to the overtures
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  for peace made by the Presidents of the two Boer Republics.
  THE PRIME MINISTER AND SECRETARY OF STATE FOR FOREIGN AFFAIRS (The Marquess of SALISBURY): I have brought down to the House to lay on the Table the telegrams which contain the information the noble Earl desires. Perhaps he will not think me out of order if I read them to him. They are not long. The following telegram was addressed by the two Presidents on the 5th of March to Her Majesty's Secretary of State—
  "The Presidents of the Orange Free State and of the South African Republic to the Marquess of Salisbury.—(Received March 6.)
  "Bloemfontein, March 5, 1900.
  "The blood and the tears of the thousands who have suffered by this war, and the prospect of all the moral and economic ruin with which South Africa is now threatened, make it necessary for both belligerents to ask themselves dispassionately, and as in the sight of the Triune God, for what they are fighting, and whether the aim of each justifies all this appalling misery and devastation.
  "With this object, and in view of the assertions of various British statesmen to the effect that this war was begun and is being carried on with the set purpose of undermining Her Majesty's authority in South Africa, and of setting up an Administration over all South Africa independent of Her Majesty's Government, we consider it our duty solemnly to declare that this war was undertaken solely as a defensive measure to safeguard the threatened independence of the South African Republic, and is only continued in order to secure and safeguard the incontestable independence of both Republics as sovereign international States, and to obtain the assurance that those of Her Majesty's subjects who have taken part with us in this war shall suffer no harm whatsoever in person or property.
  "On these conditions, and on these conditions alone, are we now, as in the past, desirous of seeing peace re-established in South Africa, and of putting an end to the evils now reigning over South Africa; while, if Her Majesty's Government is determined to destroy the independence of the Republics, there is nothing left to us and to our people but to persevere to the end in the course already begun, in spite of the overwhelming pre-eminence of the British Empire, confident that that God who lighted the unextinguishable fire of the love of freedom in the hearts of ourselves and of our fathers will not forsake us, but will accomplish His work in us and in our descendants.
  "We hesitated to make this declaration earlier to your Excellency, as we feared that as long as the advantage was always on our side, and as long as our forces held defensive positions far in Her Majesty's colonies, such a declaration might hurt the feelings of honour of the British people; but now that the pres-

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  tige of the British Empire may be considered to be assured by the capture of one of our forces by Her Majesty's troops, and that we are thereby forced to evacuate other positions which our forces had occupied, that difficulty is over, and we can no longer hesitate clearly to inform your Government and people in the sight of the whole civilised world why we are fighting, and on what conditions we are ready to restore peace."
  To that message the following answer was addressed by me on behalf of Her Majesty's Government—
  "The Marquess of Salisbury to the Presidents of the South African Republic and Orange Free State.
  "Foreign Office, 11th March, 1900.
  "I have the honour to acknowledge your Honours' telegram dated the 5th of March from Bloemfontein, of which the purport is principally to demand that Her Majesty's Government shall recognise the 'incontestable independence' of the South African Republic and Orange Free State 'as sovereign international States,' and to offer, on those terms, to bring the war to a conclusion.
  "In the beginning of October last peace existed between Her Majesty and the two Republics under the Conventions which then were in existence. A discussion had been proceeding for some months between Her Majesty's Government and the South African Republic, of which the object was to obtain redress for certain very serious grievances under which British residents in the South African Republic were suffering. In the course of these negotiations the South African Republic had to the knowledge of Her Majesty's Government made considerable armaments, and the latter had consequently taken steps to provide corresponding reinforcements to the British garrisons of Cape Town and Natal. No infringement of the rights guaranteed by the Conventions had up to that point taken place on the British side. Suddenly, at two days notice, the South African Republic, after issuing an insulting ultimatum, declared war upon Her Majesty, and the Orange Free State, with whom there had not even been any discussion, took a similar step. Her Majesty's dominions were immediately invaded by the two Republics, siege was laid to three towns within the British frontier, a large portion of the two colonies was overrun, with great destruction to property and life, and the Republics claimed to treat the inhabitants of extensive portions of Her Majesty's dominions as if those dominions had been annexed to one or other of them. In anticipation of these operations the South African Republic had been accumulating for many years past military stores on an enormous scale, which, by their character, could only have been intended for use against Great Britain.
  "Your Honours make some observations of a negative character upon the object with which these preparations were made. I do not think it necessary to discuss the questions you have raised. But the result of these preparations, carried on with great secrecy, has been that the British Empire has been
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  compelled to confront an invasion which has entailed upon the Empire a costly war and the loss of thousands of precious lives. This great calamity has been the penalty which Great Britain has suffered for having in recent years acquiesced in the existence of the two Republics.
  "In view of the use to which the two Republics have put the position which was given to them, and the calamities which their unprovoked attack has inflicted upon Her Majesty's dominions, Her Majesty's Government can only answer your Honours' telegram by saying that they are not prepared to assent to the independence either of the South African Republic or of the Orange Free State.'
  House adjourned at Twenty-five minutes before Five of the clock, to Thursday next, half-past Ten of the clock.