Lords Sitting of 8 July 1889

Preamble
The Earl of MORLEY sat Speaker.
PALATINE COURT OF DURHAM BILL. (No. 71.)
Returned from the Commons, agreed to with Amendments.

COAL DUTIES (LONDON) ABOLITION BILL. (No. 143.)
House in Committee (according to order).
Bill reported, without Amendment.
Standing Order No. XXXIX. Considered, according to order.
LORD BALFOUR: My Lords, I beg to move, in accordance with the Notice that I have placed upon the Paper, that the Standing Order be dispensed with, in order that at this sitting the Bill may be passed through its remaining stages. The Bill itself is urgent, for the reasons which I had the privilege of stating to your Lordships last Friday; and, as it has passed the Second Reading without opposition, and through Committee without Amendment, and as it is so much in the nature of a Money Bill, which this House could only with great difficulty amend, I think I may appeal with some confidence to the House to regard it as a reasonable proposal to suspend the Standing Order.
Moved, "That Standing Order No. XXXIX. be dispensed with."—(The Lord Balfour.)
LORD DENMAN: I hope that your Lordships will not agree to this Motion. It is absolutely necessary to make some verbal alteration in this Bill. As to the fact of its being a Money Bill, we are not so afraid of Money Bills in this House as is commonly supposed; in fact, the House of Commons very often agree to Amendments bonâ fide made by this House in similar Bills. For myself, I would much sooner have voted for the continuance of the Coal and Wine Dues, which I believe were most useful and kept up the honour of the City, and did not impose any serious tax upon the ratepayers. I beg to oppose the suspension of the Standing Order, and to suggest that the Bill should come before us in Committee to-morrow.
Motion put, and agreed to.
Bill read 3a and passed.

ADOPTION OF CHILDREN BILL. (No.101.)
Order for Second Reading read.
THE EARL OF LIMERICK: I have to make an appeal to the noble Lord who has charge of this Bill. I do not wish to express any opinion upon the Bill; but I would appeal to my noble Friend, considering the state of the House this evening, and as many noble Lords who take an interest in this matter are absent, whether it would not be well to postpone the Second Reading.
LORD FITZGERALD: My Lords, personally I do not approve of this Bill, but it deals with what, no doubt, is a very important subject. I apprehend that after the Second Reading it would be the intention of the noble Lord to move that the Bill be referred to one of the Standing Committees. I have only to say that if the noble Lord does not

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assent to the postponement of the Second Reading, it will be necessary for some of us to discuss the principle of the Bill.
THE EARL OF KIMBERLEY: I hope the noble Earl will consent to postpone the Second Reading. The Bill deals with a matter of the greatest importance, but there are many who entertain great objections to certain parts of it; and I think it would be unsatisfactory, in the present state of the House, to give it a Second Reading.
THE EARL OF MEATH: I am entirely in the hands of the House.
Second Reading put off to Tuesday the 16th instant.

PASSENGERS ACTS AMENDMENT BILL. (No. 100.)
Read 3a (according to order), and passed, and sent to the Commons.
House adjourned at a quarter before Five o'clock, till To-morrow, a quarter past Ten o'clock.