HL Deb 06 March 1883 vol 276 c1564
LORD BRABOURNE

, in calling attention to the Answer given by the noble Earl the Secretary of State for the Colonies the other night to a Question respecting the employment of dynamite in the Transvaal, asked whether the territory of the Chief Mapoch, instead of being in the interior of the Transvaal, as stated by the noble Earl, was one of the nearest, if not the nearest, territory to the civilized part of that country; whether, with reference to the refusal of Mapoch to pay taxes, it was not the fact that none of the Kaffir Chiefs paid their taxes until the end of the war, whereas Mapoch had always expressed his readiness to pay any tax that might be imposed upon him by the British Government; and whether, so far from being unfriendly to the British Government, he had not sent a large contingent to help in the British expedition against Secocoeni?

THE EARL OF DERBY

, in reply, said, that he had accurately answered the Question put to him by the noble Lord the other night, when he referred to the situation of the territory of the Chief Mapoch in the Transvaal, and when he stated that Mapoch refused to pay taxes to the British Government. It was quite true—though he was not aware of the fact the other night—that this Chief at an earlier period, when the expedition was undertaken against Secocoeni, had helped the British Forces with a contingent of his own, and that he was so far friendly. But he believed there was no doubt as to the refused to pay taxes. He could not say what the other Chiefs had done.