Lords Sitting of 11 August 1875

MINUTES.
PUBLIC BILLS—Committee—Report—Legal Practitioners* (238); Consolidated Fund (Appropriation)*; Local Authorities Loans* (276); Sheriff Substitute (Scotland)* (281); Remission of Penalties* (275).
Third Reading—National School Teachers (Ire-laud)* (258); Unseaworthy Ships (265); Public Works Loans (266); Sanitary Law (Dublin) Amendment (259); National School Teachers Residences (Ireland)* (274), and passed.
Royal Assent—County Surveyors Superannuation (Ireland) [38 & 39 Vict. c. 56]; Public Works Loans (Money) [38 & 39 Vict. c. 58]; Pharmacy [38 & 39 Vict. c. 57]; Friendly Societies [38 & 39 Vict. c. 60]; Public Health [38 & 39 Vict. c. 55]; Public Records (Ireland) Act, 1867, Amendment [38 & 39 Vict. c. 59]; Statute Law Revision [38 & 39 Vict. c. 66]; Entail Amendment (Scotland) [38 & 39 Vict. c. 61]; Summary Prosecutions Appeals (Scotland) [38 & 39 Vict. c. 62]; Sale of Food and Drugs [38 & 39 Vict. c. 63]; Government Officers (Security) [38 & 39 Vict. c. 64]; Metropolitan Board of Works (Loans) 38 & [39 Vict. c. 65]; Department of Science and Art [38 & 39 Vict. c. 68]; Militia Laws
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Consolidation and Amendment [38 & 39 Vict. c. 69]; Chimney Sweepers [38 & 39 Vict. c. 70]; Ecclesiastical Commissioners Act Amendment [38 & 39 Vict. c. 71]; Expiring Laws Continuance [38 & 39 Viet. c. 72]; East India Home Government (Appointments) [38 & 39 Vict. c. 73]; Public Health (Scotland) Act, 1867, Amendment [38 & 39 Vict. c. 74]; Contagious Diseases (Animals) Act, 1869, Amendment [38 & 39 Viet. c. 75]; Ecclesiastical Fees Redistribution [38 & 39 Vict. c. 76]; Lunatic Asylums (Ireland) [38 & 39 Vict. c. 67]; Supreme Court of Judicature Act (1873) Amendment (No. 2) [38 & 39 Vict. c. 77]; Local Government Board's Provisional Orders Confirmation (Leyton, &c.) [38 & 39 Vict. c. cxciii]; Traffic Regulation (Dublin) [38 & 39 Vict. c. cxcv]; Turnpike Acts Continuance [38 & 39 Vict. c. cxciv].

UNSEAWORTHY SHIPS BILL.
(The Lord President.)
(NO. 265.) THIRD READING.
Bill read 3a (according to Order), with the Amendments.
THE DUKE OF RICHMONDmoved an Amendment in the 4th sub-section of Clause 4, the object of which was to apportion the penalty of £500 for non-registration of managing owner among the owners of the ship in proportion to their shares in the ownership.
Amendment agreed to.
Bill passed, and sent to the Commons.

CONSPIRACY, AND PROTECTION OF PROPERTY BILL.
Commons Amendments to Lords Amendments considered (according to Order).
LORD DENMANobjected to one of the Commons Amendments, which took away the right of being tried by indictment at the Quarter Sessions, as contained in the 5th clause of the Bill, and urged that an appeal to the Quarter Sessions would answer every purpose, but only for cases under £20.
THE LORD CHANCELLORsaid, his noble Friend misapprehended the object of the Amendment. The Bill, as it went down to the Commons, provided that a person breaking a contract involving injury to property might be liable to a penalty of £20 or upwards, with or without imprisonment. The original words were "not exceeding £20," and they were altered to "amounting to £20," no very important alteration.
Commons Amendments agreed to.
LORD REDESDALEsaid, the Bill would afford a remedy to the unfortunate Father O'Keeffe, whoso house was besieged by persons against whom hitherto he had no remedy. He hoped advantage would be taken of its provisions in Mr. O'Keeffe's case.

LAND TITLES AND TRANSFER BILL. [H.L.]

  CONSIDERATION OF COMMONS AMENDMENTS.
  Commons Amendments considered (according to Order).
  LORD DENMANcongratulated the House and the country on the passing of the Bill. He alluded to Mr. Henry Drummond having introduced two Bills for facilitating the sale of land, neither of which was to have been compulsory. In speaking of the first in 1849, the hon. Gentleman said—
  "If the registration be voluntary, it gives the opportunity of feeling our way, of commencing with a few books, and a small office, and a moderate establishment of clerks, all of which can be enlarged as business increases."—[3 Hansard, ciii. 329.]
  On the other Bill, in 1853, the hon. Member said—
  "What I wish is to have a registration of titles, which is totally different from a registration of deeds, and allusion was made to a Bill which was supposed to have passed both Houses of Parliament, but stopped by a Dissolution. It was, indeed, stopped by a Dissolution, but had only gone through the House of Lords, and through a Committee of the House of Commons in 1739. At length, legislation was effected, and he wished that though voluntary it might be generally adopted."
  THE LORD CHANCELLORconcurred with his noble Friend as to the advantages likely to result from the Bill. Any measure for the registration of land titles must be a voluntary measure, at all events for a time. Those who advocated a compulsory measure would do well to explain the form in which it could be made effective. No form had hitherto been proposed in which it could be made effective. With regard to the Amendments, he was bound to say that the House of Commons had dealt with great leniency with the Bill. The Amendments made by that House were few, and almost verbal, and he did not offer any objection to them.
  Commons Amendments agreed to.

  SANITARY LAW (DUBLIN) AMENDMENT BILL.—(No. 259.)
  (The Lord President.)

  THIRD READING.
  Order of the Day for the Third Reading, read.
  THE DUKE OF EICHMOND, in moving that the Bill be now read the third time, said, its object was to secure funds for the main drainage of Dublin in the event of the Corporation obtaining, by means of a Local and Personal Bill, such powers as might be necessary to enable them to avail themselves of its provisions.
  Moved, "That the Bill be now read 3a."—(The Lord President.)
  Motion agreed to: Bill read 3a, and passed.
  House adjourned at half past Three o'clock, till To-morrow, Twelve o'clock.