HL Deb 05 July 1867 vol 188 cc1063-4

Order of the Day for the Third Reading read.

Moved, "That the Bill be now read 3a."—(The Lord Cranworth.)


said, he had presented a Petition against this Bill from a gentleman in Ireland, who held that there had not been sufficient time to test the efficiency of the improved Salmon Laws, and that if this Bill passed the whole legislation of 1863 would be reversed; and that the Irish salmon fishery, which had now become prosperous, would deteriorate and revert to its former depressed condition. He trusted that the Bill would not be allowed to pass; but if it did pass, he hoped that it would be so far amended as to introduce in it a limitation similar to that contained in the English law. Believing that the result of the Bill as it now stood would be very disastrous in the Shannon and throughout Ireland, he moved that it be read a third time that day six months.

Amendment moved to leave out ("now") and insert ("this Day Six Months.")—(The Lord Abinger.)


said, he hoped that their Lordships would not listen to a statement made on the very last stage of the Bill, without the least notice that there would be any opposition to the Bill. He should not go over the discussion again on the present occasion. By an oversight the vested rights of certain persons had been interfered with, and it was only just they should be re-instated in their former position. At the request, however, of several noble Lords he had consented to modify the clause by making it applicable to persons who had not exercised their rights within five years before the passing of the Act.


was of opinion that although the clause rendered the Bill less injurious than it was before, it would be better to reject it altogether. The legislation of the last few years had operated most beneficially for the Irish fisheries.

After a few remarks from the Marquess of CLANRICARDE,


expressed a hope that the Bill would be thrown out.

On Question, That ("now") stand Part of the Motion? their Lordships divided:—Contents 17; Not-Contents 24: Majority 7.

Resolved in the Negative; and Bill to be read 3a this Day Six Months.

Chelmsford, L. (L. Chancellor.) Clinton, L.
Cranworth, L. [Teller.]
Denman, L.
Buckingham and Chandos, D. Redesdale, L.
Saltersford, L. (E. Courtown.)
Marlborough, D.
Richmond, D. Silchester, L. (E. Longford.)
Cadogan, E. Somerhill, L. (M. Clanricarde.) [Teller.]
Derby, E.
Nelson, E. Templemore, L.
Wrottesley, L.
Sidmouth, V.
Beaufort, D. Hardinge, V.
Bath, M. Abinger, L. [Teller.]
Bagot, L.
Airlie, E. Churston, L.
Amherst, E. Colville of Culross, L.
Belmore, E. Ebury, L.
De Grey, E. Foley, L.
Devon, E. Meredyth, L. (L. Athlumney.)
Kimberley, E.
Lucan, E. Southampton, L.
Romney, E. Stanley of Alderley, L.
Tankerville, E. Strathspey, L. (E. Seafield.)
De Vesci, V. Wynford, L. [Teller.]

House adjourned at a quarter past Seven o'clock, till Monday next, Eleven o'clock.