Lords Sitting of 24 June 1847

MINUTES.
Sat first.— The Lord Ponsonby, after the Death of his Father.
PUBLIC BILLS. 3a and passed:—Cemeteries Clauses; Out-Pensioners (Chelsea and Greenwich); Collection of Duties (Port Natal); Destitute Persons (Ireland) (No. 2); Punishment of Vagrants (Ireland); Turnpike Acts Continuance; Van Diemen's Land Company; British American Land Company.
PETITIONS PRESENTED. By the Earl of Radnor, from Metropolitan Householders and others, in favour of the Health of Towns Bill.—By the Archbishop of Dublin, from Dublin, for Inquiry into the Principles of the Mendicity Society (Dublin).—From the Principal and Professors of the College of Glasgow, and others, praying to be heard by Counsel against the Trinity College (Scotland) Incorporation and Estate Bill.

PORTUGAL.
LORD BROUGHAMcalled the attention of the Government to the case of Das Antas and others of the prisoners in the Fort St. Julian, and was understood to say that he believed the Count to be utterly incapable of dishonourable conduct, and of the use of his influence in the manner imputed to him in some quarters. He (Lord Brougham) did not ask that the whole body of the prisoners should be set at liberty, to recover arms and to take up the cause of the Junta; but he hoped and trusted that Das Antas, and other officers in whom confidence could be reposed, might be selected as worthy to be released upon their parole. Nothing could be harder or more unjust upon those individuals who had no bad intentions than to keep them in custody until every other person who might have evil designs should have given up those designs and come in to the terms proposed; it was making these individuals answerable, not for their own conduct, but for that of others. The facts strongly inclined one to believe that Das

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Antas differed from the Junta; and, without meaning to say that he surrendered himself to escape from the pressure of popular influences at Oporto, he (Lord Brougham) was disposed to think that the Count so far differed from the Junta, that he was willing to offer very little resistance on that occasion. The Portuguese were an exceedingly well-disposed people, though obstinate; and the release of Das Antas and others, upon their parole, would tend greatly to put an end to the present resistance to the Queen's authority. It would also he as popular an act as could be done, if the King would resign the command of the army.
The MARQUESS of LANSDOWNEwas understood to say, that he perfectly agreed with the noble and learned Lord in the character he had given of the Count das Antas, whom he believed to be a distinguished and gallant officer, and a most honourable man: and there existed on the part of the British admiral and the British officers at Portugal the greatest desire to show that attention and respect personally to a brave officer which his character and station entitled him to. He (the Marquess of Lansdowne) was sure that there could be felt no intention so improper or unfair, either in Portugal or anywhere else, as that of prolonging the term of captivity— if captivity it were to be called—longer than was absolutely necessary; and, least of all, to make its cessation dependent on the total pacification of Portugal—if by that term was to be understood the surrender of every individual insurgent.
LORD BROUGHAMexpressed his satisfaction at the answer given by the noble Marquess, particularly in respect to the latter part of it.

BISHOPRIC OF MANCHESTER, &c, BILL.
Order of the Day for receiving the Report of the Amendments read.
The BISHOP of BANGOR moved to insert after the Preamble the following words:—
"And whereas in the Preamble of this Bill it is recited that the said Commissioners have made their First Report to Her Majesty, hearing Date the 20th Day of April in the present Year, and have in their said Report recommended, that the Diocese of Saint Asaph consist of the whole Counties of Flint and Denbigh, and such Parts of the Counties of Salop and Montgomery as are now in that Diocese, except the Deanery of Ceifeiliog in the last-mentioned County; and that the Diocese of Bangor shall consist of the whole Countles of Anglesey, Carnarvon, and Merioneth, and the Deaneries of Ceifeiliog and Arastley in the
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County of Montgomery: And whereas it is not expedient that the Deanery of Dyffryen Clwyd, now forming Part of the Diocese of Bangor, should be severed from that Diocese and transferred to the Diocese of Saint Asaph; be it therefore enacted, That the Diocese of Saint Asaph consist of the whole County of Flint, the County of Denbigh, except the Deanery of Dyffryn Clwyd, and such Parts of the Counties of Merioneth, Salop, and Carnarvon, as are now in that Diocese, except the Deanery of Ceifeiliog; that the Diocese of Bangor consist of the County of Anglesey, the County of Carnarvon, except such Parts of it as are now in the Diocese of Saint Asaph, the Deanery of Dyffryn Clwyd in the County of Denbigh, such Parts of the County of Merioneth as are now in the said Diocese, and the Deaneries of Ceifeiliog and Arastley in the County of Montgomery."
The BISTIOP of LONDONwas understood to oppose the Amendment.
Amendment negatived.
Then it was moved to leave out Clause 2, but on question that it stand part of the Bill, resolved in the affirmative.
House adjourned.