HL Deb 04 February 1840 vol 51 cc1175-6
The Bishop of Exeter,

on rising to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice, said, he would in the first place set right a point which had been left a little in doubt by the noble and learned Lord near him (Lord Brougham) on a former evening. It related to the reference the noble and learned Lord had made to the name of Mr. Wilberforce, as having approved of the principles of Mr. Robert Owen. He had received a letter from a relative of that venerable man, who had seen, through the only means open to him for information, the testimony of Mr. Wilberforce claimed by the noble and learned Lord in favour of Mr. Robert Owen. His correspondent stated, that by reference to entries in the diary of Mr. Wilberforce's life, he had found that Mr. Wilberforce had not that opinion of Mr. Owen's excellence which the noble and learned Lord thought ought to be deduced from certain words supposed to have been spoken by Mr. Wilberforce. His correspondent said, in emphatic words, "I well remember his indignation at Mr. Owen's having mistaken his universal kindness of demeanour for a bare tolerance of those pes- tilent speculations of the philosopher." Again, referring to the motion to refer Owen's plan to a committee, Mr. Wilberforce himself had recorded, "I was forced to speak against it on the Christian ground that they would exclude religion from life, and substitute knowledge in its stead." He quoted from page forty-six of the fifth volume of the "Diary."

Lord Brougham

had spoken of ten years before the period then referred to.

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