Lords Sitting of 19 March 1832

MINUTES.
Returns ordered. On the Motion of the Marquis of LANSDOWN, of the Number of Persons charged with Criminal Offences, committed for Trial during the last twenty-one years in England and Wales, distinguishing the Number in each year; a similar statement of the Numbers committed in each County in each of the three last seven years, with the Number of Acquittals, Convictions, and Sentences, the Number convicted of Crimes for which they received Sentence of Death, and the Number thereof who were Executed.
Petitions presented. By Lord BEXLEY, from the Inhabitants of Whitchurch, for the Abolition of Negro Slavery:—By the Marquis of SLIGO, from the Inhabitants of Aughanal, Westport, Aughagour, Louisburgh, and Isleanady, for a Reform of Parliament, and an Increase of Members to the County of Mayo, and from the Landholders of Ballinarobe, for the Abolition of Tithes in Ireland:—By Lord KING, from the Inhabitants of Ardraham and Albert, Moncoin, Canagen, Kiltormer, Clanmere, Port, Rathdrummin, Drumcar, Dunleer, Cappaugh and Desart, for the Abolition of Tithes and Church-rates, and for the Repeal of the Subletting and Vestry Acts:—By the Earl of WICKLOW, from 2,488 Inhabitants of Dublin, from the Corporation of Dublin; and by the Earl of RODEN, from the Guild of Tanners, Bakers, Cooks, Shoemakers, Weavers, Barbers, Butchers, Chandlers, Soapboilers, and Carpenters of the same place, against the Dublin Coal Trade Bill:—By the Duke of Sussex, from the Medical Schools and Societies of Liverpool and Worcestershire, for the adoption of a Measure to Facilitate the Study of Anatomy:—By the Bishop of EXETER, from the Inhabitants of Exeter. By Viscount LORTON, from the Vicar and Protestant Inhabitants of Ballisoden, and the Union of Granard. By the Earl of RODEN, from the Clergymen of the Established Church in the Deaneries of Southreps and Walham, in the diocese of Norwich; from the Inhabitants of Lyme and Charmouth, Dromore; and by the Marquis of LONDONDERRY, from the Inhabitants of Bangor, in the County of Down, against the proposed plan of Education for Ireland.

REPRESENTATIVE PEERS (SCOTLAND.)
The Earl of Rosebery, in moving, pursuant to notice, for a Select Committee to inquire into the laws and regulations now subsisting for the election of the Representative Peers for Scotland, stated, that he should occupy the time of the House for only a few minutes, not only because the subject, although of great interest to the Peerage of that division of the kingdom, and of very considerable public importance, was not of an attractive nature to a majority of their Lordships, but because he thought that any lengthened remarks or arguments would come better after the Committee had made a Report, than previous to their appointment. He requested, however, to recall to the recollection of the House that ten years ago he had moved certain Resolutions, for the purpose of placing on a more regular footing the right of voting at the election of Peers for Scotland, which had received the unanimous concurrence of their Lord-ships. These Resolutions, as far as they went, had been found to produce advantageous effects; but they did not, on the one
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hand, embrace all the cases liable to an abusive exercise of the privilege of voting as a Scottish Peer, more particularly with reference to the many dormant Peerages belonging to Scotland, the assumption of which, by individuals, without competent authority, there was no means of preventing; but which it was highly desirable, by some proper method, should not be permitted, until the claim of the individual had been established, prior to his voting at any election of a Representative Peer. On the other hand, it had been thought that to oblige persons succeeding collaterately, as was ordered by the Resolutions of 1822, to be at the expense and trouble of coming to the Bar of the House to prove their right to their titles, was, in some cases, at least, a considerable hardship, which might be obviated by an arrangement less onerous to individuals, without trenching on the principle or object of those Resolutions, which it was his wish, and he believed it would be the desire of the House, to extend, and by no means to counteract, or diminish. It had occurred to him, and others, more fit than himself to form a correct opinion on this point, coincided with him in thinking, that the most judicious course to pursue by which the double object to be attained of securing, by a more comprehensive and perfect system of regulation, the rights of the Peerage of Scotland, with a less burthensome mode of doing this than by calling on individuals to prove their pedigree in the first instance at the Bar of the House, would be by a Select Committee inquiring into this matter, and recommending a series of provisions for this purpose to their Lordships. Other points of a subordinate description relating to their elections required consideration, among which the petition of the Earl of Mar, complaining that his List was rejected at the general election in June last, although he held it was an instrument valid by the law of Scotland, was one. He proposed that this, with the petition of the Marchioness of Downshire, complaining of the assumption of the Earldom of Stirling by Mr. Humphreys Alexander, and his voting in that character, should be referred to the Committee which he was about to move for. If that Committee were granted, its Report would have the advantage of being re-considered in the Committee of Privileges, and the decision of the latter would be subject to the revision of the House. The noble Earl concluded by moving that a Select Committee be appointed to take into consideration the laws

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and regulations now in force relating to Representative Peers for Scotland, and that it Report its opinion thereupon to the House.
Committee appointed accordingly.
The following paper referred to it. The petition of the Earl of Mar, complaining that his List was rejected at the general election in June, 1831; and, also, the petition of the Marchioness Dowager of Down-shire, Baroness Sandys, complaining that Mr. Humphreys Alexander has assumed the Earldom of Stirling without right or authority; and, also, copy of the Union Roll of Peers of Scotland, and a list of Peers voting at elections since 1800.