HC Deb 01 November 1994 vol 248 cc1510-2

31A. Schedule 5A to this Act shall have effect for the purpose of making provision about the rights of betting workers as respects Sunday working."")

Motion made, and Question proposed, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said amendment.—[Mr. Norris.]

Madam Deputy Speaker

With this, it will be convenient to discuss also Lords amendments Nos. 13, 28, 37, 38 and 81 to 148.

Mr. Nigel Griffiths

This late group of amendments seek to rob workers in the betting industry of essential protection. The Minister seeks to imply that the only workers in the betting industry who should be covered by the provisions of the abolition of the Sunday trading legislation are those who are directly involved in the taking of bets.

Many people are employed in greyhound racing who do not directly take bets, and they will have to work on Sundays. The Minister is seeking to deprive those people of the protection that hon. Members on both sides of the House thought they had secured for them earlier in the summer. Those people include those who take the coats, work in car parks or perform other tasks on courses on Sundays.

It is quite wrong that this group of amendments should seek to limit the protection only to those people who are directly involved in the taking of bets. The amendments will rob all the other workers—the majority of workers in the industry—of protection, and will leave only a small minority of people protected. I hope that the Minister will accept that, in pressing this group, he will force us to divide the House.

Sir Peter Emery (Honiton)

I have just one question for the Minister. Now that we are past clause 4, can he give an undertaking that the deregulation recommendations made by the Procedure Committee, both here and in the House of Lords, will be adopted by the Government? I am fairly certain that the answer will be yes, but it would be nice to have it confirmed.

Madam Deputy Speaker

Order. That is not germane to what we are discussing.

The Minister for Transport in London (Mr. Steve Norris)

The hon. Member for Edinburgh, South (Mr. Griffiths) has made his case for being determined to divide the House when most sensible people understand precisely the nature of the amendment. As he says, it conveys rights in certain circumstances, as agreed during the contentious passage of the Bill. I see no need to detain the House by rehearsing all the arguments again. If the hon. Gentleman is content to divide the House, so be it.

Question put, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said amendment:—

The House divided: Ayes 138, Noes 41.

Division No. 334] [02.29 am
AYES
Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) Arbuthnot, James
Alexander, Richard Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham)
Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) Atkinson, Peter (Hexham)
Allason, Rupert (Torbay) Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North)
Amess, David Baldry, Tony
Bates, Michael Kynoch, George (Kincardine)
Biffen, Rt Hon John Lawrence, Sir Ivan
Booth, Hartley Legg, Barry
Boswell, Tim Lidington, David
Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) Lightbown, David
Bowden, Sir Andrew Luff, Peter
Bowis, John MacKay, Andrew
Brandreth, Gyles Maclean, David
Brazier, Julian Maitland, Lady Olga
Bright, Sir Graham Malone, Gerald
Brooke, Rt Hon Peter Merchant, Piers
Browning, Mrs. Angela Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
Burns, Simon Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW)
Burt, Alistair Neubert, Sir Michael
Carrington, Matthew Newton, Rt Hon Tony
Cash, William Norris, Steve
Chapman, Sydney Ottaway, Richard
Clappison, James Page, Richard
Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
Coe, Sebastian Pickles, Eric
Colvin, Michael Porter, David (Waveney)
Congdon, David Richards, Rod
Conway, Derek Robathan, Andrew
Coombs, Simon (Swindon) Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn
Cope, Rt Hon Sir John Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S)
Couchman, James Robinson, Mark (Somerton)
Day, Stephen Ryder, Rt Hon Richard
Devlin, Tim Shaw, David (Dover)
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)
Dover, Den Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield)
Duncan, Alan Speed, Sir Keith
Duncan-Smith, Iain Spink, Dr Robert
Elletson, Harold Spring, Richard
Emery, Rt Hon Sir Peter Steen, Anthony
Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) Stephen, Michael
Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) Stewart, Allan
Evans, Roger (Monmouth) Streeter, Gary
Fabricant, Michael Sweeney, Walter
Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) Sykes, John
Forth, Eric Tapsell, Sir Peter
Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) Taylor, Ian (Esher)
Freeman, Rt Hon Roger Taylor, John M. (Solihull)
French, Douglas Temple-Morris, Peter
Gallie, Phil Thomason, Roy
Garnier, Edward Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N)
Gill, Christopher Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V)
Gillan, Cheryl Thurnham, Peter
Gorst, Sir John Tracey, Richard
Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) Twinn, Dr Ian
Hague, William Vaughan, Sir Gerard
Hampson, Dr Keith Viggers, Peter
Hawkins, Nick Walker, Bill (N Tayside)
Hawksley, Warren Waller, Gary
Heald, Oliver Wardle, Charles (Bexhill)
Hendry, Charles Waterson, Nigel
Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) Watts, John
Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) Whittingdale, John
Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W) Widdecombe, Ann
Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W) Wilkinson, John
Jenkin, Bernard Wolfson, Mark
Jessel, Toby Wood, Timothy
Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) Young, Rt Hon Sir George
Kirkhope, Timothy
Knapman, Roger Tellers for the Ayes:
Knight, Greg (Derby N) Mr. Bowen Wells and
Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) Mr. David Willetts
NOES
Barnes, Harry Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE)
Beith, Rt Hon A. J. Dixon, Don
Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) Foster, Don (Bath)
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) Foster, Rt Hon Derek
Chisholm, Malcolm Godman, Dr Norman A.
Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) Graham, Thomas
Clelland, David Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Cunliffe, Lawrence Harvey, Nick
Hill, Keith (Streatham) Purchase, Ken
Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) Rendel, David
Jackson, Glenda (H'stead) Salmond, Alex
Jamieson, David Skinner, Dennis
Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham) Spearing, Nigel
Kilfoyle, Peter Speller, John
Kirkwood, Archy Wallace, James
Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) Welsh, Andrew
McAllion, John Wicks, Malcolm
McMaster, Gordon Wilson, Brian
Meale, Alan Wise, Audrey
Miller, Andrew Tellers for the Noes:
Olner, William Mr. Jim Dowd and
Pike, Peter L. Mr. Dennis Turner

Question accordingly agreed to.

Lords amendment No. 13 agreed to.

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