HC Deb 17 May 1994 vol 243 cc780-4

'.—(1) The Treasury shall undertake a review and publish a report on the costs likely to be incurred as a result of the provisions of this Act; and the report shall be laid before Parliament no later than 6th April 1995.'.—[Mr. McLeish]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Motion made, and Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:—

The House divided: Ayes 243, Noes 282.

Division No. 241] [9.55 pm
AYES
Abbott, Ms Diane Corston, Ms Jean
Adams, Mrs Irene Cousins, Jim
Ainger, Nick Cox, Tom
Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) Cummings, John
Allen, Graham Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE)
Anderson, Ms Janet (Ros'dale) Dalyell, Tam
Armstrong, Hilary Darling, Alistair
Austin-Walker, John Davidson, Ian
Barnes, Harry Davies, Bryan (Oldham C'tral)
Barron, Kevin Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli)
Battle, John Davies, Ron (Caerphilly)
Beith, Rt Hon A. J. Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'l)
Bell, Stuart Dixon, Don
Benn, Rt Hon Tony Dobson, Frank
Bennett, Andrew F. Donohoe, Brian H.
Benton, Joe Dunnachie, Jimmy
Bermingham, Gerald Eagle, Ms Angela
Berry, Roger Eastham, Ken
Blair, Tony Etherington, Bill
Blunkett, David Evans, John (St Helens N)
Boateng, Paul Ewing, Mrs Margaret
Boyes, Roland Fatchett, Derek
Bradley, Keith Field, Frank (Birkenhead)
Bray, Dr Jeremy Fisher, Mark
Brown, Gordon (Dunfermline E) Flynn, Paul
Brown, N. (N'c'tle upon Tyne E) Foster, Rt Hon Derek
Burden, Richard Foulkes, George
Byers, Stephen Fraser, John
Callaghan, Jim Fyfe, Maria
Campbell, Mrs Anne (C'bridge) Galbraith, Sam
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) Galloway, George
Campbell, Ronnie (Blyth V) Gapes, Mike
Campbell-Savours, D. N. Garrett, John
Canavan, Dennis George, Bruce
Cann, Jamie Gerrard, Neil
Carlile, Alexander (Montgomry) Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John
Chisholm, Malcolm Godman, Dr Norman A.
Clapham, Michael Godsiff, Roger
Clark, Dr David (South Shields) Golding, Mrs Llin
Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) Graham, Thomas
Clarke, Tom (Monklands W) Grant, Bernie (Tottenham)
Clelland, David Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Clwyd, Mrs Ann Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Coffey, Ann Grocott, Bruce
Cohen, Harry Gunnell, John
Connarty, Michael Hain, Peter
Cook, Frank (Stockton N) Hall, Mike
Cook, Robin (Livingston) Hanson, David
Corbett, Robin Harman, Ms Harriet
Corbyn, Jeremy Harvey, Nick
Henderson, Doug O'Hara, Edward
Heppell, John Olner, William
Hill, Keith (Streatham) O'Neill, Martin
Hinchliffe, David Parry, Robert
Hogg, Norman (Cumbernauld) Patchett, Terry
Home Robertson, John Pickthall, Colin
Hood, Jimmy Pike, Peter L.
Hoon, Geoffrey Pope, Greg
Howarth, George (Knowsley N) Powell, Ray (Ogmore)
Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd) Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lew'm E)
Hoyle, Doug Prentice, Gordon (Pendle)
Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N) Prescott, John
Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) Primarolo, Dawn
Hughes, Roy (Newport E) Purchase, Ken
Hughes, Simon (Southwark) Quin, Ms Joyce
Hutton, John Radice, Giles
Ingram, Adam Randall, Stuart
Jackson, Glenda (H'stead) Raynsford, Nick
Jackson, Helen (Shef'ld, H) Redmond, Martin
Janner, Greville Reid, Dr John
Johnston, Sir Russell Rendel, David
Jones, Barry (Alyn and D'side) Robertson, George (Hamilton)
Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C) Robinson, Geoffrey (Co'try NW)
Jones, Lynne (B'ham S O) Roche, Mrs. Barbara
Jones, Martyn (Clwyd, SW) Rogers, Allan
Keen, Alan Rooker, Jeff
Kennedy, Charles (Ross,C&S) Rooney, Terry
Kennedy, Jane (Lpool Brdgn) Ross, Ernie (Dundee W)
Khabra, Piara S. Rowlands, Ted
Kilfoyle, Peter Ruddock, Joan
Kirkwood, Archy Salmond, Alex
Lestor, Joan (Eccles) Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert
Lewis, Terry Shore, Rt Hon Peter
Livingstone, Ken Short, Clare
Llwyd, Elfyn Simpson, Alan
Loyden, Eddie Skinner, Dennis
McAllion, John Smith, Andrew (Oxford E)
McAvoy, Thomas Smith, C. (Isl'ton S & F'sbury)
McCartney, Ian Smith, Llew (Blaenau Gwent)
Macdonald, Calum Snape, Peter
McFall, John Soley, Clive
McKelvey, William Spearing, Nigel
Mackinlay, Andrew Spellar, John
McLeish, Henry Squire, Rachel (Dunfermline W)
Maclennan, Robert Steel, Rt Hon Sir David
McMaster, Gordon Stevenson, George
McNamara, Kevin Strang, Dr. Gavin
MacShane, Denis Straw, Jack
McWilliam, John Thompson, Jack (Wansbeck)
Madden, Max Turner, Dennis
Mandelson, Peter Tyler, Paul
Marek, Dr John Vaz, Keith
Marshall, David (Shettleston) Walker, Rt Hon Sir Harold
Martlew, Eric Wallace, James
Maxton, John Walley, Joan
Meacher, Michael Wardell, Gareth (Gower)
Michael, Alun Wareing, Robert N
Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) Watson, Mike
Michie, Mrs Ray (Argyll Bute) Welsh, Andrew
Milburn, Alan Wicks, Malcolm
Miller, Andrew Williams, Rt Hon Alan (SW'n W)
Mitchell, Austin (Gt Grimsby) Williams, Alan W (Carmarthen)
Moonie, Dr Lewis Wilson, Brian
Morgan, Rhodri Winnick, David
Morley, Elliot Wise, Audrey
Morris, Rt Hon A. (Wy'nshawe) Worthington, Tony
Morris, Estelle (B'ham Yardley) Wray, Jimmy
Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) Wright, Dr Tony
Mowlam, Marjorie Young, David (Bolton SE)
Mullin, Chris
Murphy, Paul Tellers for the Ayes:
Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon Mr. Jim Dowd and
O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire) Mr. Alan Meale.
O'Brien, William (Normanton)
NOES
Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) Allason, Rupert (Torbay)
Aitken, Jonathan Amess, David
Alexander, Richard Ancram, Michael
Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) Arbuthnot, James
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) Evennett, David
Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) Faber, David
Ashby, David Fabricant, Michael
Aspinwall, Jack Fairbairn, Sir Nicholas
Atkins, Robert Fenner, Dame Peggy
Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) Field, Barry (Isle of Wight)
Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) Fishburn, Dudley
Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) Forman, Nigel
Baldry, Tony Forsyth, Michael (Stirling)
Banks, Matthew (Southport) Forth, Eric
Bates, Michael Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman
Batiste, Spencer Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring)
Bellingham, Henry Freeman, Rt Hon Roger
Bendall, Vivian French, Douglas
Beresford, Sir Paul Gale, Roger
Biffen, Rt Hon John Gallie, Phil
Blackburn, Dr John G. Gardiner, Sir George
Body, Sir Richard Garel-Jones, Rt Hon Tristan
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas Garnier, Edward
Booth, Hartley Gill, Christopher
Boswell, Tim Gillan, Cheryl
Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) Goodlad, Rt Hon Alastair
Bottomley, Rt Hon Virginia Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles
Bowden, Andrew Gorman, Mrs Teresa
Bowis, John Gorst, John
Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW)
Brandreth, Gyles Greenway, Harry (Ealing N)
Brazier, Julian Greenway, John (Ryedale)
Bright, Graham Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N)
Brooke, Rt Hon Peter Grylls, Sir Michael
Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn
Browning, Mrs. Angela Hague, William
Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) Hamilton, Neil (Tatton)
Budgen, Nicholas Hampson, Dr Keith
Burns, Simon Hanley, Jeremy
Burt, Alistair Hannam, Sir John
Butterfill, John Hargreaves, Andrew
Carlisle, John (Luton North) Harris, David
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Haselhurst, Alan
Carrington, Matthew Hawkins, Nick
Carttiss, Michael Hayes, Jerry
Cash, William Heald, Oliver
Channon, Rt Hon Paul Heath, Rt Hon Sir Edward
Chapman, Sydney Heathcoat-Amory, David
Churchill, Mr Hendry, Charles
Clappison, James Hicks, Robert
Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) Higgins, Rt Hon Sir Terence L.
Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey Hill, James (Southampton Test)
Coe, Sebastian Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham)
Colvin, Michael Horam, John
Congdon, David Hordern, Rt Hon Sir Peter
Conway, Derek Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A)
Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st) Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W)
Coombs, Simon (Swindon) Hunt, Rt Hon David (Wirral W)
Cope, Rt Hon Sir John Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne)
Cormack, Patrick Hunter, Andrew
Couchman, James Jack, Michael
Cran, James Jackson, Robert (Wantage)
Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon) Jenkin, Bernard
Davies, Quentin (Stamford) Jessel, Toby
Davis, David (Boothferry) Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey
Day, Stephen Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N)
Deva, Nirj Joseph Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr)
Devlin, Tim Jopling, Rt Hon Michael
Dickens, Geoffrey Key, Robert
Dicks, Terry King, Rt Hon Tom
Dorrell, Stephen Knapman, Roger
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash)
Dover, Den Knight, Greg (Derby N)
Duncan, Alan Knox, Sir David
Dunn, Bob Kynoch, George (Kincardine)
Durant, Sir Anthony Lait, Mrs Jacqui
Dykes, Hugh Lang, Rt Hon Ian
Eggar, Tim Lawrence, Sir Ivan
Elletson, Harold Legg, Barry
Emery, Rt Hon Sir Peter Leigh, Edward
Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) Lennox-Boyd, Mark
Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) Lester, Jim (Broxtowe)
Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) Lidington, David
Evans, Roger (Monmouth) Lightbown, David
Lilley, Rt Hon Peter Shersby, Michael
Lloyd, Rt Hon Peter (Fareham) Skeet, Sir Trevor
Lord, Michael Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield)
Luff, Peter Soames, Nicholas
Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas Spencer, Sir Derek
MacGregor, Rt Hon John Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)
MacKay, Andrew Spink, Dr Robert
Maclean, David Spring, Richard
McLoughlin, Patrick Squire, Robin (Hornchurch)
McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John
Malone, Gerald Steen, Anthony
Mans, Keith Stephen, Michael
Marland, Paul Stern, Michael
Marlow, Tony Stewart, Allan
Marshall, John (Hendon S) Streeter, Gary
Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) Sumberg, David
Martin, David (Portsmouth S) Sweeney, Walter
Mates, Michael Sykes, John
Mawhinney, Rt Hon Dr Brian Tapsell, Sir Peter
Merchant, Piers Taylor, Ian (Esher)
Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) Taylor, John M. (Solihull)
Moate, Sir Roger Taylor, Sir Teddy (Southend, E)
Montgomery, Sir Fergus Temple-Morris, Peter
Moss, Malcolm Thomason, Roy
Needham, Richard Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V)
Neubert, Sir Michael Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N)
Nicholls, Patrick Thurnham, Peter
Nicholson, David (Taunton) Townend, John (Bridlington)
Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th)
Norris, Steve Tracey, Richard
Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley Tredinnick, David
Oppenheim, Phillip Trend, Michael
Ottaway, Richard Trotter, Neville
Page, Richard Twinn, Dr Ian
Patnick, Irvine Vaughan, Sir Gerard
Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Viggers, Peter
Pawsey, James Walden, George
Pickles, Eric Walker, Bill (N Tayside)
Porter, Barry (Wirral S) Waller, Gary
Porter, David (Waveney) Ward, John
Portillo, Rt Hon Michael Wardle, Charles (Bexhill)
Redwood, Rt Hon John Waterson, Nigel
Renton, Rt Hon Tim Watts, John
Richards, Rod Whitney, Ray
Riddick, Graham Widdecombe, Ann
Robathan, Andrew Wiggin, Sir Jerry
Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn Wilkinson, John
Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S) Willetts, David
Robinson, Mark (Somerton) Wilshire, David
Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton)
Ryder, Rt Hon Richard Winterton, Nicholas (Macc'f'ld)
Sackville, Tom Wolfson, Mark
Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim Wood, Timothy
Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas Yeo, Tim
Shaw, David (Dover) Young, Rt Hon Sir George
Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey)
Shephard, Rt Hon Gillian Tellers for the Noes:
Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) Mr. Timothy Kirkhope and
Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge) Mr. Bowen Wells.

Question accordingly negatived.

Further consideration adjourned.—[Mr. Andrew Mitchell.]

Bill, as amended (in the Standing Committee), to be further considered tomorrow.

Mr. Brian Wilson (Cunninghame, North)

On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I witnessed an incident—[Interruption.]

Mr. Deputy Speaker (Mr. Geoffrey Lofthouse)

Order. I am trying to deal with a point of order. I cannot do so unless I can hear it. Will hon. Members leaving the Chamber do so quietly, please, and will those beyond the bar stop their discussions?

Mr. Wilson

I witnessed an incident in the Division Lobby after you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, had called for the doors to be closed. A doorkeeper was wrongly treated by an hon. Member, resulting in a slight injury to his hand. I assure you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that it is not the numbers that I am worried about, but it is disgraceful that a servant of this House should be treated with such arrogance by a Member of the House. Will you make inquiries and report on it tomorrow?

Mr. Deputy Speaker

I shall have the incident investigated.

Mr. Tam Dalyell (Linlithgow)

May I ask for guidance on a matter of procedure? Starred amendments Nos. 302 and 303 appeared on the amendment paper, relating to the royal borough of South Queensferry. Technically, what happens to starred amendments? Do they come back in another place, or are they covered by the procedures that we have just gone through?

Mr. Deputy Speaker

The Speaker will consider that matter tomorrow.