'This Act, except sections 4 and 5, shall come into force on such day as the Secretary of State may by order appoint; and different days may be appointed for different provisions, different purposes of the same provision and different areas.'.—[Mr. Robert G. Hughes.]
§ Brought up, and read the First time.
§ Motion made, and Question proposed, That the clause be read a Second time.
§ Madam Deputy SpeakerWith this, it will be convenient to discuss also the following: Government new clause 3—Power of Secretary of State to give guidance on conduct of investigations—
Amendment No. 92, in clause 2, page 2, line 4, leave out 'and'.
Amendment No. 93, in page 2, line 4, after `practicable', insert 'and cost effective'.
Amendment No. 181, in page 2, line 20, leave out from 'cent.' to end of line 22 and insert
'or such other percentage as the Secretary of State may by order made by statutory instrument substitute; and any such instrument shall be subject to annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament;'.Amendment No. 94, in page 3, line 24, at end insert—'(5A) In determining for the purposes of subsection (1)(a) above what measures are in its opinion cost effective, the authority shall have regard to any guidance on the question for the time being issued by the Secretary of State.'.Government amendments Nos. 43 and 51.Amendment No. 153, in page 3, line 27, after 'plan', insert 'and any modification'.
Amendment No. 182, in page 3, line 28, at end insert—
'(8) Orders under subsection (2)(a) above may make different provision with respect to different cases or classes of case.'.Government amendment No. 52, in clause 3.Amendment No. 203, in page 3, line 29, leave out 'shall' and insert 'may'.
Amendment No. 196, in page 3, line 29, leave out 'a date' and insert
'such date or dates as he considers appropriate'.Amendment No. 199, in page 3, line 29, leave out 'all'.Amendment No. 151, in page 3, line 29, after 'plans', insert 'and modifications'.
Amendment No. 197, in page 3, line 29, after 'plans', insert
'or parts of plans, as he may specify'.Amendment No. 206, in page 3, leave out lines 31 to 41.Amendment No. 147, in page 3, line 31, leave out 'all such plans' and insert 'any plan or modification'.
Amendment No. 201, in page 3, line 31, leave out 'all such plans' and insert
'a plan or part of a plan specified under subsection (1) above'.Amendment No. 193, in page 3, leave out line 32.Amendment No. 204, in page 3, line 32, leave out 'shall' and insert 'may'.
Amendment No. 146, in page 3, line 32, leave out 'such plans' and insert 'the plan or modification'.
Amendment No. 198, in page 3, line 32, leave out 'such plans' and insert
'the plan or the part'.Amendment No. 171, in page 3, leave out lines 33 and 34.1347 Amendment No. 170, in page 3, line 33, after 'may', insert
', with the consent of the Treasury,'.Amendment No. 169, in page 3, line 33, leave out 'a Scheme for making'.Amendment No. 148, in page 3, line 34, leave out 'of such plans'.
Amendment No. 195, in page 3, line 35, leave out lines 35 to 41.
Amendment No. 205, in page 3, line 37, leave out 'shall' and insert 'may'.
Amendment No. 200, in page 3, line 38, leave out from 'above;' to end of line 41.
Government amendment No. 32.
Amendment No. 167, in page 3, line 42, after '(4)', insert
'Subject to subsection (5) below,'.Amendment No. 149, in page 3, line 43, after 'plan', insert 'or modification'.Amendment No. 166, in page 3, line 45, at end insert—
'(5) Regulations under subsection (4) above may make different provision for different cases, or classes of' case, including different provision for different areas.'.Government amendment No. 53.Amendment No. 194, in the title, line 5, leave out from `powers' to second 'and' in line 5 and insert
'to secure the implementation of such plans'.
§ Mr. A. J. Beith (Berwick-upon-Tweed)I listened with great care to the Minister's advocacy of new clause 2, which he spent 30 minutes doing on 22 April and I am disposed to accept it.
§ Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:—
§ The House proceeded to a Division.
§ Mr. Beith (seated and covered)On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. Is it not clear that this Division was not originally sought and that it is taking place against a Government new clause which I have accepted, with tellers for both sides being put in by Government supporters so as to ensure that the Energy Conservation Bill does not make any further progress today? Can you confirm that the promoter of the Bill did not put in tellers for the Division? It is clearly an attempt by the Government to prevent the House from considering the Energy Conservation Bill any further.
§ Madam Deputy SpeakerAs Deputy Speaker, I have no knowledge of those matters. All that I am concerned with is whether the Division has been called correctly, and I am satisfied that it is in order.
§ The House having divided:Ayes 63, Noes 2.
| Division No. 296] | [2.17 pm |
| AYES | |
| Arbuthnot, James | Lawrence, Sir Ivan |
| Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) | Lilley, Rt Hon Peter |
| Austin-Walker, John | Lynne, Ms Liz |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) | MacKay, Andrew |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Barnes, Harry | McWilliam, John |
| Beith, Rt Hon A. J. | Malone, Gerald |
| Bendall, Vivian | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| Berry, Roger | Merchant, Piers |
| Bruce, Ian (S Dorset) | Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) |
| Burt, Alistair | Neubert, Sir Michael |
| Carrington, Matthew | Nicholls, Patrick |
| Chapman, Sydney | Patnick, Irvine |
| Clappison, James | Raynsford, Nick |
| Cohen, Harry | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Conway, Derek | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| Cormack, Patrick | Smith, C. (Isl'ton S & F'sbury) |
| Davies, Quentin (Stamford) | Spearing, Nigel |
| Dover, Den | Sproat, Iain |
| Dykes, Hugh | Stern, Michael |
| Ewing, Mrs Margaret | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) |
| Fry, Sir Peter | Trend, Michael |
| Garrett, John | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles | Waterson, Nigel |
| Gunnell, John | Wells, Bowen |
| Hanley, Jeremy | Wheeler, Rt Hon Sir John |
| Hill, Keith (Streatham) | Whittingdale, John |
| Hodge, Margaret | Willetts, David |
| Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) | Wood, Timothy |
| Keen, Alan | |
| Kirkhope, Timothy | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Knapman, Roger | Mr. Gyles Brandreth and |
| Knight, Greg (Derby N) | Mr. George Kynoch. |
| Lait, Mrs Jacqui | |
| NOES | |
| Banks, Matthew (Southport) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Cox, Tom | Mr. Roger Evans and |
| Mr. Michael Bates. |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
§ Clause read a Second time.
§ It being after half-past Two o'clock, further consideration of the Bill stood adjourned.
§ Bill to be further considered upon Friday 21 October.