HC Deb 14 December 1993 vol 234 cc950-3

That the draft Companies Act 1985 (Insurance Companies Accounts) Regulations 1993, which were laid before this House on 23 November, be approved.—[Mr. Wood.]

The House divided: Ayes 277, Noes 127.

Division No. 36] [11.11 pm
AYES
Ainsworth, Peter (East Surrey) Bruce, Ian (S Dorset)
Alexander, Richard Budgen, Nicholas
Alison, Rt Hon Michael (Selby) Burns, Simon
Allason, Rupert (Torbay) Burt, Alistair
Amess, David Butler, Peter
Ancram, Michael Butterfill, John
Arbuthnot, James Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln)
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) Carrington, Matthew
Arnold, Sir Thomas (Hazel Grv) Carttiss, Michael
Aspinwall, Jack Cash, William
Atkinson, Peter (Hexham) Channon, Rt Hon Paul
Baker, Nicholas (Dorset North) Chapman, Sydney
Baldry, Tony Churchill, Mr
Banks, Matthew (Southport) Clappison, James
Bates, Michael Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford)
Batiste, Spencer Clarke, Rt Hon Kenneth (Ruclif)
Beggs, Roy Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey
Bellingham, Henry Coe, Sebastian
Bendall, Vivian Colvin, Michael
Beresford, Sir Paul Congdon, David
Biffen, Rt Hon John Coombs, Anthony (Wyre For'st)
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas Coombs, Simon (Swindon)
Booth, Hartley Cope, Rt Hon Sir John
Boswell, Tim Couchman, James
Bottomley, Peter (Eltham) Cran, James
Bowden, Andrew Currie, Mrs Edwina (S D'by'ire)
Bowis, John Curry, David (Skipton & Ripon)
Boyson, Rt Hon Sir Rhodes Davis, David (Boothferry)
Brandreth, Gyles Day, Stephen
Brazier, Julian Deva, Nirj Joseph
Bright, Graham Devlin, Tim
Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thorpes) Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James
Browning, Mrs. Angela Dover, Den
Duncan, Alan Legg, Barry
Duncan-Smith, Iain Leigh, Edward
Dunn, Bob Lennox-Boyd, Mark
Durant, Sir Anthony Lester, Jim (Broxtowe)
Dykes, Hugh Lidington, David
Eggar, Tim Lightbown, David
Evans, David (Welwyn Hatfield) Lloyd, Peter (Fareham)
Evans, Jonathan (Brecon) Lord, Michael
Evans, Nigel (Ribble Valley) Luff, Peter
Evans, Roger (Monmouth) Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas
Evennett, David Maclean, David
Faber, David McLoughlin, Patrick
Fabricant, Michael McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick
Fenner, Dame Peggy Madel, David
Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) Maitland, Lady Olga
Fishburn, Dudley Malone, Gerald
Forman, Nigel Mans, Keith
Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) Marland, Paul
Fox, Dr Liam (Woodspring) Marlow, Tony
Fox, Sir Marcus (Shipley) Marshall, John (Hendon S)
Freeman, Rt Hon Roger Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel)
French, Douglas Martin, David (Portsmouth S)
Fry, Peter Mates, Michael
Gale, Roger Mawhinney, Dr Brian
Gallie, Phil Mellor, Rt Hon David
Gardiner, Sir George Merchant, Piers
Gamier, Edward Milligan, Stephen
Gill, Christopher Mills, Iain
Gillen, Cheryl Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles Mitchell, Sir David (Hants NW)
Gorst, John Moate, Sir Roger
Grant, Sir A. (Cambs SW) Monro, Sir Hector
Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) Montgomery, Sir Fergus
Greenway, John (Ryedale) Moss, Malcolm
Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth, N) Needham, Richard
Grylls, Sir Michael Nelson, Anthony
Hague, William Neubert, Sir Michael
Hamilton, Rt Hon Archie (Epsom) Newton, Rt Hon Tony
Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) Nicholls, Patrick
Hampson, Dr Keith Nicholson, David (Taunton)
Hanley, Jeremy Nicholson, Emma (Devon West)
Hannam, Sir John Norris, Steve
Hargreaves, Andrew Onslow, Rt Hon Sir Cranley
Harris, David Oppenheim, Phillip
Haselhurst, Alan Ottaway, Richard
Hawkins, Nick Page, Richard
Hayes, Jerry Paice, James
Heald, Oliver Patnick, Irvine
Heathcoat-Amory, David Pawsey, James
Hendry, Charles Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth
Hicks, Robert Pickles, Eric
Hill, James (Southampton Test) Porter, David (Waveney)
Hogg, Rt Hon Douglas (G'tham) Powell, William (Corby)
Horam, John Rathbone, Tim
Hordern, Rt Hon Sir Peter Renton, Rt Hon Tim
Howarth, Alan (Strat'rd-on-A) Richards, Rod
Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) Riddick, Graham
Howell, Sir Ralph (N Norfolk) Robathan, Andrew
Hughes Robert G. (Harrow W) Roberts, Rt Hon Sir Wyn
Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) Robertson, Raymond (Ab'd'n S)
Hunter, Andrew Robinson, Mark (Somerton)
Jack, Michael Roe, Mrs Marion (Broxbourne)
Jenkin, Bernard Rowe, Andrew (Mid Kent)
Jessel, Toby Rumbold, Rt Hon Dame Angela
Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey Ryder, Rt Hon Richard
Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) Sackville, Tom
Jones, Robert B. (W Hertfdshr) Sainsbury, Rt Hon Tim
Jopling, Rt Hon Michael Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas
Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine Shaw, David (Dover)
Key, Robert Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey)
Kilfedder, Sir James Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)
Kirkhope, Timothy Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge)
Knapman, Roger Shersby, Michael
Knight, Mrs Angela (Erewash) Sims, Roger
Knight, Greg (Derby N) Skeet, Sir Trevor
Knight, Dame Jill (Bir'm E'st'n) Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick)
Knox, Sir David Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield)
Kynoch, George (Kincardine) Soames, Nicholas
Lait, Mrs Jacqui Speed, Sir Keith
Lawrence, Sir Ivan Spicer, Sir James (W Dorset)
Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) Trotter, Neville
Spink, Dr Robert Twinn, Dr Ian
Spring, Richard Vaughan, Sir Gerard
Sproat, Iain Walden, George
Squire, Robin (Hornchurch) Walker, Bill (N Tayside)
Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John Waller, Gary
Steen, Anthony Ward, John
Stephen, Michael Wardle, Charles (Bexhill)
Stem, Michael Waterson, Nigel
Stewart, Allan Wells, Bowen
Streeter, Gary Whitney, Ray
Sumberg, David Whittingdale, John
Sweeney, Walter Widdecombe, Ann
Sykes, John Wiggin, Sir Jerry
Tapsell, Sir Peter Wilkinson, John
Taylor, Ian (Esher) Willetts, David
Taylor, Rt Hon John D. (Strgfd) Wilshire, David
Taylor, John M. (Solihull) Winterton, Mrs Ann (Congleton)
Temple-Morris, Peter Winterton, Nicholas (Macc'f'ld)
Thomason, Roy Wolfson, Mark
Thompson, Sir Donald (C'er V) Wood, Timothy
Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) Yeo, Tim
Thornton, Sir Malcolm Young, Rt Hon Sir George
Townend, John (Bridlington)
Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexl'yh'th) Tellers for the Ayes:
Tracey, Richard Mr. Andrew MacKay and
Tredinnick, David Mr. Derek Conway.
Trend, Michael
NOES
Adams, Mrs Irene Hanson, David
Ainger, Nick Hoey, Kate
Ainsworth, Robert (Cov'try NE) Hogg, Norman (Cumbernauld)
Ashton, Joe Home Robertson, John
Barnes, Harry Hood, Jimmy
Battle, John Hoon, Geoffrey
Bayley, Hugh Hoyle, Doug
Beckett, Rt Hon Margaret Hughes, Kevin (Doncaster N)
Beith, Rt Hon A.J. Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N)
Benton, Joe Hutton, John
Bermingham, Gerald Illsley, Eric
Betts, Clive Ingram, Adam
Boyes, Roland Johnston, Sir Russell
Bradley, Keith Jones, Jon Owen (Cardiff C)
Burden, Richard Jones, Nigel (Cheltenham)
Caborn, Richard Kennedy, Charles (Ross, C&S)
Callaghan, Jim Kennedy, Jane (Lpool Brdgn)
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) Kilfoyle, Peter
Cann, Jamie Kirkwood, Archy
Chisholm, Malcolm Lewis, Terry
Clarke, Eric (Midlothian) Llwyd, Elfyn
Coffey, Ann Lynne, Ms Liz
Cohen, Harry McAllion, John
Cryer, Bob McAvoy, Thomas
Cunningham, Jim (Covy SE) Macdonald, Calum
Davidson, Ian McFall, John
Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'dge H'l) McKelvey, William
Denham, John Mackinlay, Andrew
Dewar, Donald McMaster, Gordon
Dixon, Don McWilliam, John
Donohoe, Brian H. Madden, Max
Dunnachie, Jimmy Mahon, Alice
Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth Mandelson, Peter
Eagle, Ms Angela Marshall, Jim (Leicester, S)
Eastham, Ken Martlew, Eric
Enright, Derek Maxton, John
Etherington, Bill Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley)
Ewing, Mrs Margaret Milburn, Alan
Flynn, Paul Morley, Elliot
Fraser, John Mowlam, Marjorie
Fyfe, Maria Mudie, George
Galloway, George Mullin, Chris
Garrett, John O'Brien, Michael (N W'kshire)
Gerrard, Neil O'Hara, Edward
Godman, Dr Norman A. Olney, William
Godsiff, Roger Patchett, Terry
Golding, Mrs Llin Pickthall, Colin
Graham, Thomas Pike, Peter L.
Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) Powell, Ray (Ogmore)
Gunnell, John Prentice, Ms Bridget (Lew'm E)
Prentice, Gordon (Pendle) Steel, Rt Hon Sir David
Primarolo, Dawn Steinberg, Gerry
Radice, Giles Strang, Dr. Gavin
Reid, Dr John Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Rendel, David Wallace, James
Robertson, George (Hamilton) Wardell, Gareth (Gower)
Robinson, Peter (Belfast E) Wareing, Robert N
Roche, Mrs. Barbara Welsh, Andrew
Rooker, Jeff Wigley, Dafydd
Rooney, Terry Wise, Audrey
Sedgemore, Brian Wray, Jimmy
Skinner, Dennis
Smith, C. (Isl'ton S & F'sbury) Tellers for the Noes:
Spearing, Nigel Mr. Eddie Loyden and
Spellar, John Mr. Jeremy Corbyn.
Squire, Rachel (Dunfermline W)

Question accordingly agreed to.

Mr. Beith

Further to my previous point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. In similar circumstances, the occupant of the Chair has given the Government the opportunity not to move an order when the necessary papers are not available. The House is not in possession of the Committee report relating to the next motion on the Order Paper, which is the only way in which right hon. and hon. Members can know whether a vote took place or whether substantial objections to the order were raised in Committee.

Madam Speaker is responsible for the printing and accuracy of the reports of proceedings of the House. Therefore, it also falls upon the Chair to be concerned if those proceedings are not available to the House when they are required. It seems to me, and should appear to Ministers who are present, that it is an abuse of the procedures of the House to attempt to make the House vote on a motion for which the necessary papers are not available. I believe that that view is shared by some Conservative Members.

Sir Donald Thompson (Calder Valley)

Further to that point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Would not it be better to adopt the practice of voting in our seats as all the votes are spurious?

Mr. Deputy Speaker

The Standing Orders are clear on standing and sitting, and the present circumstances are not appropriate. It is for the Government to decide whether they wish to move a motion. The Chair's responsibility is to call the motion.

Motion made, and Question put forthwith pursuant to Standing Order No. 101(5) (Standing Committees on Statutory Instruments, &c.).