HC Deb 27 June 1990 vol 175 cc456-60

Lords amendment: No. 81, in page 50, line 12, at end insert— ( ) The plan for the provision of community care services referred to in subsection (1) above shall, in the case of those local authorities which are housing authorities, include details on how those authorities propose to meet the housing needs of the persons in their areas who are in need of community care services.

Motion made, and Question proposed, That this House doth disagree with the Lords in the said amendment:—[Mr. Kenneth Clarke.]

Question put:

The House divided: Ayes 300, Noes 213.

Division No. 273] [12.54 am
AYES
Adley, Robert Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford)
Aitken, Jonathan Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe)
Alexander, Richard Colvin, Michael
Alison, Rt Hon Michael Conway, Derek
Allason, Rupert Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest)
Amess, David Coombs, Simon (Swindon)
Amos, Alan Cope, Rt Hon John
Arbuthnot, James Couchman, James
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) Cran, James
Arnold, Sir Thomas Critchley, Julian
Ashby, David Currie, Mrs Edwina
Atkins, Robert Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g)
Atkinson, David Davis, David (Boothferry)
Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) Day, Stephen
Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) Devlin, Tim
Baldry, Tony Dicks, Terry
Banks, Robert (Harrogate) Dorrell, Stephen
Batiste, Spencer Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James
Bellingham, Henry Dover, Den
Bendall, Vivian Dunn, Bob
Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) Durant, Tony
Benyon, W. Dykes, Hugh
Bevan, David Gilroy Emery, Sir Peter
Biffen, Rt Hon John Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd)
Blackburn, Dr John G. Evennett, David
Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter Fallon, Michael
Body, Sir Richard Farr, Sir John
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas Favell, Tony
Boscawen, Hon Robert Fenner, Dame Peggy
Boswell, Tim Field, Barry (Isle of Wight)
Bottomley, Peter Fishburn, John Dudley
Bottomley, Mrs Virginia Forman, Nigel
Bowden, A (Brighton K'pto'n) Forsyth, Michael (Stirling)
Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) Forth, Eric
Bowis, John Fowler, Rt Hon Sir Norman
Boyson, Rt Hon Dr Sir Rhodes Fox, Sir Marcus
Brandon-Bravo, Martin Franks, Cecil
Brazier, Julian Freeman, Roger
Bright, Graham French, Douglas
Brooke, Rt Hon Peter Fry, Peter
Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) Gale, Roger
Bruce, Ian (Dorset South) Gardiner, George
Burns, Simon Garel-Jones, Tristan
Burt, Alistair Gill, Christopher
Butler, Chris Glyn, Dr Sir Alan
Butterfill, John Goodhart, Sir Philip
Carlisle, John, (Luton N) Goodlad, Alastair
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles
Carrington, Matthew Gorman, Mrs Teresa
Carttiss, Michael Gorst, John
Cash, William Gow, Ian
Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda Grant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW)
Channon, Rt Hon Paul Greenway, Harry (Ealing N)
Chapman, Sydney Greenway, John (Ryedale)
Chope, Christopher Gregory, Conal
Griffiths, Sir Eldon (Bury St E') Mellor, David
Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) Meyer, Sir Anthony
Grist, Ian Miller, Sir Hal
Ground, Patrick Mills, Iain
Grylls, Michael Miscampbell, Norman
Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling)
Hague, William Mitchell, Sir David
Hamilton, Hon Archie (Epsom) Moate, Roger
Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) Monro, Sir Hector
Hampson, Dr Keith Montgomery, Sir Fergus
Hanley, Jeremy Morrison, Sir Charles
Hargreaves, A. (B'ham H'll Gr') Morrison, Rt Hon P (Chester)
Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn) Moss, Malcolm
Harris, David Moynihan, Hon Colin
Haselhurst, Alan Neale, Gerrard
Hayes, Jerry Needham, Richard
Hayward, Robert Nelson, Anthony
Heathcoat-Amory, David Neubert, Michael
Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE) Newton, Rt Hon Tony
Hicks, Robert (Cornwall SE) Nicholls, Patrick
Hill, James Nicholson, David (Taunton)
Hind, Kenneth Nicholson, Emma (Devon West)
Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm) Norris, Steve
Hordern, Sir Peter Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley
Howard, Rt Hon Michael Oppenheim, Phillip
Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A) Page, Richard
Howarth, G. (Cannock & B'wd) Paice, James
Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil
Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford) Patten, Rt Hon John
Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W) Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey
Hunt, David (Wirral W) Pawsey, James
Hunt, Sir John (Ravensbourne) Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth
Hunter, Andrew Porter, Barry (Wirral S)
Irvine, Michael Porter, David (Waveney)
Jack, Michael Portillo, Michael
Jackson, Robert Price, Sir David
Janman, Tim Raison, Rt Hon Timothy
Jessel, Toby Redwood, John
Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey Renton, Rt Hon Tim
Jones, Robert B (Herts W) Riddick, Graham
Jopling, Rt Hon Michael Rifkind, Rt Hon Malcolm
Key, Robert Roberts, Wyn (Conwy)
King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield) Roe, Mrs Marion
King, Rt Hon Tom (Bridgwater) Rumbold, Mrs Angela
Kirkhope, Timothy Ryder, Richard
Knapman, Roger Sackville, Hon Tom
Knight, Greg (Derby North) Sainsbury, Hon Tim
Knowles, Michael Scott, Rt Hon Nicholas
Knox, David Shaw, David (Dover)
Lang, Ian Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey)
Latham, Michael Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb')
Lee, John (Pendle) Shelton, Sir William
Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh) Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW)
Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)
Lester, Jim (Broxtowe) Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge)
Lightbown, David Shersby, Michael
Lilley, Peter Sims, Roger
Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant) Skeet, Sir Trevor
Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick)
Lord, Michael Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield)
Luce, Rt Hon Richard Soames, Hon Nicholas
Lyell, Rt Hon Sir Nicholas Speller, Tony
Macfarlane, Sir Neil Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W)
MacKay, Andrew (E Berkshire) Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)
Maclean, David Squire, Robin
McLoughlin, Patrick Stanbrook, Ivor
McNair-Wilson, Sir Michael Stanley, Rt Hon Sir John
McNair-Wilson, Sir Patrick Steen, Anthony
Madel, David Stern, Michael
Malins, Humfrey Stevens, Lewis
Mans, Keith Stewart, Allan (Eastwood)
Maples, John Stewart, Andy (Sherwood)
Marland, Paul Stewart, Rt Hon Ian (Herts N)
Marlow, Tony Stradling Thomas, Sir John
Marshall, John (Hendon S) Sumberg, David
Marshall, Sir Michael (Arundel) Summerson, Hugo
Martin, David (Portsmouth S) Tapsell, Sir Peter
Maude, Hon Francis Taylor, Ian (Esher)
Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin Taylor, John M (Solihull)
Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick Taylor, Teddy (S'end E)
Temple-Morris, Peter Wardle, Charles (Bexhill)
Thompson, D. (Calder Valley) Warren, Kenneth
Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) Wells, Bowen
Thornton, Malcolm Wheeler, Sir John
Thurnham, Peter Whitney, Ray
Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath) Widdecombe, Ann
Tracey, Richard Wiggin, Jerry
Tredinnick, David Wilshire, David
Trippier, David Winterton, Mrs Ann
Twinn, Dr Ian Wolfson, Mark
Vaughan, Sir Gerard Woodcock, Dr. Mike
Viggers, Peter Yeo, Tim
Waldegrave, Rt Hon William Young, Sir George (Acton)
Walden, George
Walker, Bill (T'side North) Tellers for the Ayes:
Waller, Gary Mr. Irvine Patnick and
Ward, John Mr. Timothy Wood.
NOES
Allen, Graham Dunwoody, Hon Mrs Gwyneth
Alton, David Eastham, Ken
Anderson, Donald Evans, John (St Helens N)
Archer, Rt Hon Peter Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E)
Armstrong, Hilary Ewing, Mrs Margaret (Moray)
Ashley, Rt Hon Jack Fatchett, Derek
Ashton, Joe Field, Frank (Birkenhead)
Banks, Tony (Newham NW) Fields, Terry (L'pool B G'n)
Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) Fisher, Mark
Barnes, Mrs Rosie (Greenwich) Flannery, Martin
Barron, Kevin Flynn, Paul
Beckett, Margaret Foot, Rt Hon Michael
Bell, Stuart Foster, Derek
Benn, Rt Hon Tony Foulkes, George
Bennett, A. F. (D'nt'n & R'dish) Fraser, John
Bermingham, Gerald Fyfe, Maria
Bidwell, Sydney Galloway, George
Blair, Tony Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John
Blunkett, David Godman, Dr Norman A.
Boateng, Paul Golding, Mrs Llin
Boyes, Roland Gould, Bryan
Bradley, Keith Graham, Thomas
Brown, Gordon (D'mline E) Grant, Bernie (Tottenham)
Brown, Nicholas (Newcastle E) Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S)
Brown, Ron (Edinburgh Leith) Griffiths, Win (Bridgend)
Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) Grocott, Bruce
Buckley, George J. Hardy, Peter
Caborn, Richard Harman, Ms Harriet
Callaghan, Jim Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) Haynes, Frank
Campbell, Ron (Blyth Valley) Heal, Mrs Sylvia
Campbell-Savours, D. N. Hinchliffe, David
Canavan, Dennis Hoey, Ms Kate (Vauxhall)
Carlile, Alex (Mont'g) Hogg, N. (C'nauld & Kilsyth)
Carr, Michael Hood, Jimmy
Clark, Dr David (S Shields) Howells, Geraint
Clarke, Tom (Monklands W) Howells, Dr. Kim (Pontypridd)
Clelland, David Hoyle, Doug
Clwyd, Mrs Ann Hughes, John (Coventry NE)
Cohen, Harry Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N)
Coleman, Donald Hughes, Roy (Newport E)
Cook, Frank (Stockton N) Hughes, Simon (Southwark)
Cook, Robin (Livingston) Illsley, Eric
Corbett, Robin Ingram, Adam
Corbyn, Jeremy Janner, Greville
Cox, Tom Johnston, Sir Russell
Crowther, Stan Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside)
Cryer, Bob Jones, Ieuan (Ynys Môn)
Cummings, John Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W)
Cunliffe, Lawrence Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
Cunningham, Dr John Kennedy, Charles
Dalyell, Tam Kilfedder, James
Darling, Alistair Kirkwood, Archy
Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) Lambie, David
Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H'I) Lamond, James
Dewar, Donald Leadbitter, Ted
Dixon, Don Leighton, Ron
Dobson, Frank Lewis, Terry
Doran, Frank Litherland, Robert
Duffy, A. E. P. Livingstone, Ken
Dunnachie, Jimmy Livsey, Richard
Lloyd, Tony (Stretford) Randall, Stuart
Lofthouse, Geoffrey Redmond, Martin
Loyden, Eddie Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn
McAllion, John Reid, Dr John
McAvoy, Thomas Richardson, Jo
McCartney, Ian Robertson, George
Macdonald, Calum A. Robinson, Geoffrey
McKay, Allen (Barnsley West) Rogers, Allan
McKelvey, William Rooker, Jeff
McLeish, Henry Ross, Ernie (Dundee W)
McNamara, Kevin Rowlands, Ted
Madden, Max Ruddock, Joan
Mahon, Mrs Alice Sheerman, Barry
Marek, Dr John Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert
Marshall, David (Shettleston) Shore, Rt Hon Peter
Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) Short, Clare
Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) Skinner, Dennis
Martlew, Eric Smith. Andrew (Oxford E)
Maxton, John Smith, C. (Isl'ton & F'bury)
Meacher, Michael Smith, Rt Hon J. (Monk'ds E)
Meale, Alan Soley, Clive
Michael, Alun Spearing, Nigel
Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) Steel, Rt Hon Sir David
Michie, Mrs Ray (Arg'l & Bute) Steinberg, Gerry
Mitchell, Austin (G't Grimsby) Stott, Roger
Moonie, Dr Lewis Strang, Gavin
Morgan, Rhodri Straw, Jack
Morley, Elliot Taylor, Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Morris, Rt Hon A. (W'shawe) Taylor, Matthew (Truro)
Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) Thomas, Dr Dafydd Elis
Mowlam, Marjorie Thompson, Jack (Wansbeck)
Mullin, Chris Turner, Dennis
Murphy, Paul Vaz, Keith
Nellist, Dave Wallace, James
O'Brien, William Walley, Joan
O'Neill, Martin Watson, Mike (Glasgow, C)
Parry, Robert Welsh, Andrew (Angus E)
Patchett, Terry Welsh, Michael (Doncaster N)
Pendry, Tom Wigley, Dafydd
Pike, Peter L. Williams, Rt Hon Alan
Powell, Ray (Ogmore) Williams, Alan W. (Carm'then)
Prescott, John Wilson, Brian
Primarolo, Dawn Winnick, David
Quin, Ms Joyce Wise, Mrs Audrey
Worthington, Tony Tellers for the Noes:
Wray, Jimmy Mr. Allen Adams and
Young, David (Bolton SE) Mr. Robert N. Wareing.

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER then proceeded to put forthwith the Question, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the Lords amendments designated by him which had not been disposed of.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Lords amendments Nos. 104, 107, 108, 116, 135, 138 and 163 agreed to [Special Entry.]

MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER then proceeded to put forthwith the Question, That this House doth agree with the Lords in all the remaining Lords amendments.

Lords amendments Nos. 73 to 75, 77 to 80, 82 to 94, 96 to 103, 105, 106, 109 to 115, 117 to 134, 136, 137, 139 to 162 and 164 to 182 agreed to.

Ordered, That a Committee be appointed to draw up reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their amendments Nos. 71, 72, 76 and 81.—[Mr. Kenneth Clarke.]

Ordered, That Mrs. Virginia Bottomley, Mr. Kenneth Clarke, Mr. Robin Cook, Mr. Greg Knight and Mr. Allen McKay be members of the Committee.—[Mr. Kenneth Clarke.]

Ordered, That three be the quorum of the Committee.—[Mr. Kenneth Clarke.]

Ordered, That the Committee do withdraw immediately.—[Mr. Kenneth Clarke.]

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