§ 'No firearm certificate shall authorise a person to possess, purchase or acquire a self-loading or pump-action rifle to which section 5(2) (ab) of the principal Act applies unless that person—
- (a) has held a firearms certificate for at least three years, and
- (b) has been a full member of a rifle club for at least three years, and
- (c) is a member of a club which is affiliated to the National Rifle Association or the United Kingdom Practical Shooting Association and which has been approved by the Secretary of State as a club suitable for target shooting with self-loading rifles, and has satisfactorily completed a course of service rifle or practical rifle shooting approved by either of these Associations, or
- (d) has a reason to possess such a gun because of disability or participation in vermin control or deer-culling.'.—[Sir Hector Monro]
§ Brought up, and read the First time.
§ Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:-
§ The House divided: Ayes 26, Noes 217.
161| Division No. 319] | [1.5 am |
| AYES | |
| Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) | Monro, Sir Hector |
| Beith, A. J. | Moonie, Dr Lewis |
| Bellingham, Henry | Ross, William (Londonderry E) |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Skinner, Dennis |
| Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) | Walker, Bill (T'side North) |
| Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon Alick | Wall, Pat |
| Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) | Wallace, James |
| Colvin, Michael | Welsh, Andrew (Angus E) |
| Cook, Frank (Stockton N) | Whitney, Ray |
| Cryer, Bob | Winterton, Mrs Ann |
| Dixon, Don | Winterton, Nicholas |
| Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W) | |
| McAllion, John | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin | Mr. Jerry Wiggins and Mr. Paul Marland. |
| Molyneaux, Rt Hon James |
| NOES | |
| Alexander, Richard | Arnold, Tom (Hazel Grove) |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael | Ashby, David |
| Allason, Rupert | Atkinson, David |
| Amess, David | Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) |
| Amos, Alan | Baldry, Tony |
| Arbuthnot, James | Batiste, Spencer |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Beaumont-Dark, Anthony |
| Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Hawkins, Christopher |
| Bevan, David Gilroy | Hayes, Jerry |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Heathcoat-Amory, David |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Heddle, John |
| Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE) |
| Boswell, Tim | Hind, Kenneth |
| Bottomley, Mrs Virginia | Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm) |
| Bowden, A (Brighton K'pto'n) | Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A) |
| Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) | Howarth, G. (Cannock & B'wd) |
| Bowis, John | Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W) |
| Brandon-Bravo, Martin | Hunt, David (Wirral W) |
| Brazier, Julian | Hunt, John (Ravensbourne) |
| Bright, Graham | Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas |
| Brittan, Rt Hon Leon | Irvine, Michael |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Jack, Michael |
| Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) | Janman, Tim |
| Burns, Simon | Jessel, Toby |
| Burt, Alistair | Johnson Smith, Sir Geoffrey |
| Butcher, John | Jones, Robert B (Herts W) |
| Butler, Chris | King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield) |
| Butterfill, John | Kirkhope, Timothy |
| Carlisle, John, (Luton N) | Knapman, Roger |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Knight, Greg (Derby North) |
| Carrington, Matthew | Knight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston) |
| Cash, William | Knowles, Michael |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Lang, Ian |
| Chapman, Sydney | Latham, Michael |
| Chope, Christopher | Lawrence, Ivan |
| Clark, Hon Alan (Plym'th S'n) | Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh) |
| Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) | Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark |
| Conway, Derek | Lightbown, David |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) | Lilley, Peter |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) |
| Couchman, James | Lord, Michael |
| Cran, James | MacGregor, Rt Hon John |
| Currie, Mrs Edwina | Maclean, David |
| Curry, David | McLoughlin, Patrick |
| Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g) | McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury) |
| Davis, David (Boothferry) | McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) |
| Day, Stephen | Malins, Humfrey |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Mans, Keith |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Marshall, John (Hendon S) |
| Dover, Den | Martin, David (Portsmouth S) |
| Dunn, Bob | Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick |
| Durant, Tony | Miller, Hal |
| Emery, Sir Peter | Mills, lain |
| Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd) | Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) |
| Fallon, Michael | Mitchell, David (Hants NW) |
| Farr, Sir John | Moate, Roger |
| Fenner, Dame Peggy | Morris, M (N'hampton S) |
| Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) | Morrison, Hon Sir Charles |
| Fookes, Miss Janet | Moss, Malcolm |
| Forman, Nigel | Nelson, Anthony |
| Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) | Neubert, Michael |
| Forth, Eric | Newton, Rt Hon Tony |
| Franks, Cecil | Nicholson, David (Taunton) |
| Freeman, Roger | Oppenheim, Phillip |
| French, Douglas | Page, Richard |
| Gale, Roger | Paice, James |
| Gill, Christopher | Patnick, Irvine |
| Goodhart, Sir Philip | Pawsey, James |
| Goodlad, Alastair | Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles | Porter, David (Waveney) |
| Gorman, Mrs Teresa | Portillo, Michael |
| Gorst, John | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Gow, Ian | Raffan, Keith |
| Gower, Sir Raymond | Raison, Rt Hon Timothy |
| Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) | Redwood, John |
| Greenway, John (Ryedale) | Renton, Tim |
| Gregory, Conal | Rhodes James, Robert |
| Griffiths, Sir Eldon (Bury St E') | Riddick, Graham |
| Grist, Ian | Roberts, Wyn (Conwy) |
| Ground, Patrick | Roe, Mrs Marion |
| Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn | Rossi, Sir Hugh |
| Hamilton, Hon Archie (Epsom) | Rumbold, Mrs Angela |
| Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) | Ryder, Richard |
| Hanley, Jeremy | Sackville, Hon Tom |
| Hargreaves, A. (B'ham H'll Gr') | Sainsbury, Hon Tim |
| Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn) | Sayeed, Jonathan |
| Harris, David | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) | Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath) |
| Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb') | Tracey, Richard |
| Shelton, William (Streatham) | Tredinnick, David |
| Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW) | Trotter, Neville |
| Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) | Twinn, Dr Ian |
| Skeet, Sir Trevor | Vaughan, Sir Gerard |
| Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) | Waddington, Rt Hon David |
| Soames, Hon Nicholas | Walden, George |
| Speed, Keith | Ward, John |
| Speller, Tony | Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) |
| Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W) | Watts, John |
| Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) | Wells, Bowen |
| Squire, Robin | Wheeler, John |
| Stanbrook, Ivor | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Stern, Michael | Wilkinson, John |
| Stevens, Lewis | Wilshire, David |
| Stewart, Andy (Sherwood) | Wolfson, Mark |
| Sumberg, David | Wood, Timothy |
| Summerson, Hugo | Yeo, Tim |
| Tapsell, Sir Peter | Young, Sir George (Acton) |
| Taylor, Ian (Esher) | |
| Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Thorne, Neil | Mr. Robert Boscawen and |
| Thurnham, Peter | Mr. Tristan Garel-Jones. |
§ Question accordingly negatived.
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerDoes the hon. Member for Newbury (Mr. McNair-Wilson) wish to press new clause 6?
§ Mr. Michael McNair-WilsonNo, Sir.