HC Deb 12 January 1988 vol 125 cc245-8

'In paragraph (b) of subsection (3) of Section 63 of the Social Security Act 1986 leave out:— (c) or (d) above" and insert:— (c),(d) or, in any Order having effect on or after 10th April 1989, (f), (child benefit), abouve.".'—[Sir Brandon Rhys Williams.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:—

The House divided: Ayes 241, Noes 288.

Division No. 130] [10.10 pn
AYES
Adams, Allen (Paisley N) Corbyn, Jeremy
Allen, Graham Cousins, Jim
Alton, David Cox, Tom
Anderson, Donald Critchley, Julian
Archer, Rt Hon Peter Crowther, Stan
Armstrong, Ms Hilary Cryer, Bob
Ashdown, Paddy Cummings, J.
Ashley, Rt Hon Jack Cunliffe, Lawrence
Ashton, Joe Cunningham, Dr John
Banks, Tony (Newham NW) Dalyell, Tarn
Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) Darling, Alastair
Barron, Kevin Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli)
Battle, John Davies, Ron (Caerphilly)
Beckett, Margaret Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H'l)
Beggs, Roy Dewar, Donald
Bell, Stuart Dixon, Don
Benn, Rt Hon Tony Dobson, Frank
Bennett, A. F. (D'nt'n & R'dish) Doran, Frank
Bermingham, Gerald Douglas, Dick
Bidwell, Sydney Dunnachie, James
Blair, Tony Dunwoody, Hon Mrs Gwyneth
Blunkett, David Dykes, Hugh
Boateng, Paul Eadie, Alexander
Bowis, John Eastham, Ken
Boyes, Roland Evans, John (St Helens N)
Bradley, Keith Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E)
Bray, Dr Jeremy Ewing, Mrs Margaret (Moray)
Brown, Gordon (D'mline E) Fatchett, Derek
Brown, Nicholas (Newcastle E) Faulds, Andrew
Bruce, Malcolm (Gordon) Fearn, Ronald
Buchan, Norman Field, Frank (Birkenhead)
Buckley, George Fields, Terry (L'pool B G'n)
Caborn, Richard Fisher, Mark
Callaghan, Jim Flannery, Martin
Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) Flynn, Paul
Campbell-Savours, D. N. Forsythe, Clifford (Antrim S)
Canavan, Dennis Foster, Derek
Carlile, Alex (Mont'g) Fraser, John
Clarke, Tom (Monklands W) Fyfe, Mrs Maria
Clay, Bob Galbraith, Samuel
Clelland, David Galloway, George
Clwyd, Mrs Ann Garrett, John (Norwich South)
Cohen, Harry Garrett, Ted (Wallsend)
Cook, Frank (Stockton N) Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John
Cook, Robin (Livingston) Gilmour, Rt Hon Sir Ian
Corbett, Robin Godman, Dr Norman A.
Golding, Mrs Llin Moonie, Dr Lewis
Gordon, Ms Mildred Morgan, Rhodri
Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) Morley, Elliott
Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) Morris, Rt Hon J (Aberavon)
Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) Mowlam, Marjorie
Grocott, Bruce Mullin, Chris
Harman, Ms Harriet Murphy, Paul
Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy Nellist, Dave
Haynes, Frank Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon
Healey, Rt Hon Denis O'Brien, William
Heffer, Eric S O'Neill, Martin
Hicks, Robert (Cornwall SE) Patchert, Terry
Hinchhffe, David Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth
Hogg, N (C'nauld & Kilsyth) Pendry, Tom
Holland, Stuart Pike, Peter
Home Robertson, John Powell, Ray (Ogmore)
Hood, James Prescott, John
Howarth, George (Knowsley N) Primarolo, Ms Dawn
Howell, Rt Hon D (S'heath) Quin, Ms Joyce
Hoyle, Doug Radice, Giles
Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) Raison, Rt Hon Timothy
Hughes, Roy (Newport E) Randall, Stuart
Hughes, Sean (Knowsley S) Redmond, Martin
Hughes, Simon (Southwark) Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn
Hume, John Reid, John
Illsley, Eric Richardson, Ms Jo
Ingram, Adam Robertson, George
Janner, Greville Robinson, Geoffrey
John, Brynmor Rogers, Allan
Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside) Rooker, Jeff
Jones, leuan (Ynys Môn) Ross, Ernie (Dundee W)
Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W) Rowe, Andrew
Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald Rowlands, Ted
Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine Salmond, Alex
Kinnock, Rt Hon Neil Sedgemore, Brian
Kirkwood, Archy Sheerman, Barry
Lambie, David Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert
Lamond, James Shore, Rt Hon Peter
Leadbitter, Ted Skinner, Dennis
Leighton, Ron Smith, Andrew (Oxford E)
Lestor, Miss Joan (Eccles) Smith, C (Isl'ton & F'bury)
Lewis, Terry Smith, Rt Hon J (Monk'ds E)
Litherland, Robert Snape, Peter
Livingstone, Ken Soley, Clive
Lofthouse, Geoffrey Spearing, Nigel
Loyden, Eddie Squire, Robin
McAlhon, John Steinberg, Gerald
McAvoy, Tom Stott, Roger
McCartney, Ian Strang, Gavin
McCrindle, Robert Straw, Jack
McCusker, Harold Taylor Mrs Ann (Dewsbury)
Macdonald, Calum Taylor, Rt Hon J D (S'ford)
McFall, John Thomas, Dafydd Elis
McGrady, E K Thompson, Jack (Wansbeck)
McKay, Allen (Penistone) Townsend, Cyril D (B'heath)
McKelvey, William Turner Dennis
McLeish, Henry Vaz, Keith
McNamara, Kevin Wall, Pat
McTaggart Bob Wallace, James
McWilham, John Walley, Ms Joan
Madden, Max Warden, Gareth (Gower)
Mahon, Mrs Alice Wareing, Robert N
Marek, Dr John Welsh, Michael (Doncaster N)
Marlow, Tony Wigley, Dafydd
Marshall, David (Shettleston) Williams, Rt Hon A J
Marshall, Jim (Leicester S) Williams, Alan W (Carm'then)
Martin Michael (Springburn) Wilson, Brian
Martlew, Eric Winnick, David
Maxton, John Wise, Mrs Audrey
Meacher, Michael Worthington, Anthony
Meale, Alan Wray, James
Meyer, Sir Anthony Young, David (Bolton SE)
Michael, Alun
Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) Tellers for the Ayes
Michie, Mrs Ray (Arg'l & Bute) Sir Brandon Rhys Williams
Millan, Rt Hon Bruce and Mr Jim Lester
Mitchell, Austin (G't Grimsby)
NOES
Adley, Robert Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd)
Alexander, Richard Evennett, David
Alison, Rt Hon Michael Fallon, Michael
Amess, David Favell, Tony
Amos, Alan Fenner, Dame Peggy
Arbuthnot, James Field, Barry (Isle of Wight)
Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) Fookes, Miss Janet
Arnold, Tom (Hazel Grove) Forman, Nigel
Ashby, David Forsyth, Michael (Stirling)
Atkinson, David Forth, Eric
Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Valley) Fowler, Rt Hon Norman
Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) Franks, Cecil
Baldry, Tony Freeman, Roger
Banks, Robert (Harrogate) French, Douglas
Batiste, Spencer Fry, Peter
Beaumont-Dark, Anthony Gale, Roger
Bellingham, Henry Gardiner, George
Bendall, Vivian Gill, Christopher
Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) Glyn, Dr Alan
Bevan, David Gilroy Goodhart, Sir Philip
Bitten, Rt Hon John Goodlad, Alastair
Blackburn, Dr John G. Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles
Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter Gorman, Mrs Teresa
Body, Sir Richard Gow, Ian
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas Gower, Sir Raymond
Boswell, Tim Grant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW)
Bottomley, Peter Greenway, Harry (Baling N)
Bottomley, Mrs Virginia Greenway, John (Rydale)
Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) Gregory, Conal
Boyson, Rt Hon Dr Sir Rhodes Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N)
Braine, Rt Hon Sir Bernard Grist, Ian
Brandon-Bravo, Martin Ground, Patrick
Brazier, Julian Grylls, Michael
Brittan, Rt Hon Leon Hamilton, Hon A. (Epsom)
Brooke, Rt Hon Peter Hampson, Dr Keith
Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) Hanley, Jeremy
Browne, John (Winchester) Hargreaves, A. (B'ham H'll Gr')
Bruce, Ian (Dorset South) Hargreaves, Ken (Hyndburn)
Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon Alick Harris, David
Buck, Sir Antony Hawkins, Christopher
Budgen, Nicholas Hayes, Jerry
Burns, Simon Heathcoat-Amory, David
Burt, Alistair Heddle, John
Butcher, John Heseltine, Rt Hon Michael
Butler, Chris Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE)
Butterfill, John Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L.
Carlisle, John, (Luton N) Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm)
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Holt, Richard
Carrington, Matthew Hordern, Sir Peter
Carttiss, Michael Howard, Michael
Cash, William Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A)
Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda Howell, Rt Hon David (G'dford)
Channon, Rt Hon Paul Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W)
Chapman, Sydney Hunt, David (Wirral W)
Chope, Christopher Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas
Churchill, Mr Irvine, Michael
Clark, Hon Alan (Plym'th S'n) Irving, Charles
Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) Jack, Michael
Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe) Jackson, Robert
Conway, Derek Janman, Timothy
Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N)
Coombs, Simon (Swindon) Jones, Robert B (Herts W)
Cope, John Key, Robert
Couchman, James King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield)
Cran, James Kirkhope, Timothy
Currie, Mrs Edwina Knapman, Roger
Curry David Knight, Greg (Derby North)
Davies, Q, (Stamf'd & Spald'g) Knowles, Michael
Davis David (Boothferry) Knox, David
Day, Stephen Lamont, Rt Hon Norman
Devlin, Tim Lang, Ian
Dickens, Geoffrey Latham, Michael
Dicks, Terry Lawrence, Ivan
Dorrell, Stephen Lawson, Rt Hon Nigel
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Lee, John (Pendle)
Dover, Den Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh)
Dunn, Bob Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark
Durart, Tony Lightbown, David
Eggar, Tim Lilley, Peter
Lloyd, Sir Ian (Havant) Sackville, Hon Tom
Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) Sainsbury, Hon Tim
Lord, Michael Sayeed, Jonathan
Luce, Rt Hon Richard Scott, Nicholas
Macfarlane, Sir Neil Shaw, David (Dover)
MacKay, Andrew (E Berkshire) Shaw, Sir Michael (Scarb')
Maclean, David Shelton, William (Streatham)
McLoughlin, Patrick Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)
McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury) Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge)
McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) Sims, Roger
Major, Rt Hon John Skeet, Sir Trevor
Malins, Humfrey Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield)
Maples, John Soames, Hon Nicholas
Marland, Paul Speller, Tony
Marshall, John (Hendon S) Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W)
Marshall, Michael (Arundel) Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)
Martin, David (Portsmouth S) Stanbrook, Ivor
Mates, Michael Steen, Anthony
Maude, Hon Francis Stern, Michael
Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin Stevens, Lewis
Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick Stewart, Allan (Eastwood)
Mellor, David Stewart, Andrew (Sherwood)
Miller, Hal Sumberg, David
Mills, lain Summerson, Hugo
Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) Tapsell, Sir Peter
Mitchell, David (Hants NW) Taylor, Ian (Esher)
Moate, Roger Taylor, John M (Solihull)
Monro, Sir Hector Taylor, Teddy (S'end E)
Montgomery, Sir Fergus Tebbit, Rt Hon Norman
Moore, Rt Hon John Thatcher, Rt Hon Margaret
Morrison, Sir Charles (Devizes) Thompson, D. (Calder Valley)
Morrison, Hon P (Chester) Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N)
Moss, Malcolm Thorne, Neil
Moynihan, Hon C. Thornton, Malcolm
Mudd, David Thurnham, Peter
Neale, Gerrard Tracey, Richard
Nelson, Anthony Tredinnick, David
Neubert, Michael Trippier, David
Newton, Rt Hon Tony Trotter, Neville
Nicholls, Patrick Twinn, Dr Ian
Nicholson, David (Taunton) Vaughan, Sir Gerard
Nicholson, Miss E. (Devon W) Waddington, Rt Hon David
Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley Wakeham, Rt Hon John
Oppenheim, Phillip Waldegrave, Hon William
Page, Richard Walker, Bill (T'side North)
Paice, James Waller, Gary
Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil Ward, John
Patnick, Irvine Wardle, C. (Bexhill)
Patten, Chris (Bath) Warren, Kenneth
Patten, John (Oxford W) Watts, John
Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Wells, Bowen
Pawsey, James Wheeler, John
Porter, David (Waveney) Whitney, Ray
Portillo, Michael Widdecombe, Miss Ann
Powell, William (Corby) Wiggin, Jerry
Raffan, Keith Wilkinson, John
Redwood, John Wilshire, David
Renton, Tim Winterton, Mrs Ann
Rhodes James, Robert Winterton, Nicholas
Riddick, Graham Wolfson, Mark
Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas Wood, Timothy
Rifkind, Rt Hon Malcolm Woodcock, Mike
Roberts, Wyn (Conwy) Yeo, Tim
Roe, Mrs Marion
Rost, Peter Tellers for the Noes:
Rumbold, Mrs Angela Mr. Robert Boscawen and
Ryder, Richard Mr. Tristan Garel-Jones.

Question accordingly negatived.

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