§ Amendment proposed: No. 156, in Page 46, leave out lines 34 to 41 and insert—
'86(1) The Secretary of State shall—
(2) Before determining the notional expenditure assessment or making the report under subsection (1) above, the Secretary of State shall consult such associations of local authorities as appear to him to be concerned and with any local authority with whom consultation appears to him to be desirable.
(3) This report shall be laid before the House of Commons and shall specify the principles on which the notional expenditure assessments and basis of distribution are determined'.—[Mr. Rooker.]
§ Question put, That the amendment be made:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 209, Noes 328.
1090| Division No. 272] | [10.00 pm |
| AYES | |
| Abbott, Ms Diane | Boyes, Roland |
| Adams, Allen (Paisley N) | Bradley, Keith |
| Anderson, Donald | Bray, Dr Jeremy |
| Archer, Rt Hon Peter | Brown, Gordon (D'mline E) |
| Armstrong, Hilary | Brown, Nicholas (Newcastle E) |
| Ashley, Rt Hon Jack | Buchan, Norman |
| Ashton, Joe | Buckley, George J. |
| Banks, Tony (Newham NW) | Callaghan, Jim |
| Barnes, Harry (Derbyshire NE) | Campbell, Menzies (Fife NE) |
| Barron, Kevin | Campbell, Ron (Blyth Valley) |
| Battle, John | Campbell-Savours, D. N. |
| Beckett, Margaret | Canavan, Dennis |
| Beith, A. J. | Carlile, Alex (Mont'g) |
| Bell, Stuart | Cartwright, John |
| Benn, Rt Hon Tony | Clark, Dr David (S Shields) |
| Bennett, A. F. (D'nt'n & R'dish) | Clarke, Tom (Monklands W) |
| Bermingham, Gerald | Clay, Bob |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Clelland, David |
| Boateng, Paul | Clwyd, Mrs Ann |
| Cohen, Harry | Litherland, Robert |
| Coleman, Donald | Livingstone, Ken |
| Cook, Robin (Livingston) | Livsey, Richard |
| Corbett, Robin | Lofthouse, Geoffrey |
| Corbyn, Jeremy | Loyden, Eddie |
| Cousins, Jim | McAllion, John |
| Cox, Tom | McAvoy, Thomas |
| Crowther, Stan | McCartney, Ian |
| Cryer, Bob | McFall, John |
| Cummings, John | McKay, Allen (Barnsley West) |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | McKelvey, William |
| Cunningham, Dr John | McLeish, Henry |
| Dalyell, Tam | McNamara, Kevin |
| Darling, Alistair | McTaggart, Bob |
| Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) | McWilliam, John |
| Davies, Ron (Caerphilly) | Madden, Max |
| Davis, Terry (B'ham Hodge H'l) | Mahon, Mrs Alice |
| Dixon, Don | Marek, Dr John |
| Dobson, Frank | Martin, Michael J. (Springburn) |
| Doran, Frank | Martlew, Eric |
| Douglas, Dick | Maxton, John |
| Duffy, A. E. P. | Michael, Alun |
| Dunnachie, Jimmy | Michie, Bill (Sheffield Heeley) |
| Dunwoody, Hon Mrs Gwyneth | Michie, Mrs Ray (Arg'l & Bute) |
| Eadie, Alexander | Millan, Rt Hon Bruce |
| Eastham, Ken | Mitchell, Austin (G't Grimsby) |
| Evans, John (St Helens N) | Moonie, Dr Lewis |
| Ewing, Harry (Falkirk E) | Morgan, Rhodri |
| Ewing, Mrs Margaret (Moray) | Morley, Elliott |
| Fatchett, Derek | Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon) |
| Field, Frank (Birkenhead) | Mowlam, Marjorie |
| Fields, Terry (L'pool B G'n) | Mullin, Chris |
| Fisher, Mark | Murphy, Paul |
| Flannery, Martin | Nellist, Dave |
| Flynn, Paul | Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon |
| Foot, Rt Hon Michael | O'Brien, William |
| Foster, Derek | O'Neill, Martin |
| Fraser, John | Orme, Rt Hon Stanley |
| Fyfe, Maria | Parry, Robert |
| Garrett, John (Norwich South) | Patchett, Terry |
| Garrett, Ted (Wallsend) | Pendry, Tom |
| George, Bruce | Pike, Peter L. |
| Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John | Powell, Ray (Ogmore) |
| Godman, Dr Norman A. | Prescott, John |
| Golding, Mrs Llin | Primarolo, Dawn |
| Gordon, Mildred | Quin, Ms Joyce |
| Gould, Bryan | Randall, Stuart |
| Graham, Thomas | Redmond, Martin |
| Grant, Bernie (Tottenham) | Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn |
| Griffiths, Nigel (Edinburgh S) | Reid, Dr John |
| Griffiths, Win (Bridgend) | Richardson, Jo |
| Grocott, Bruce | Roberts, Allan (Bootle) |
| Hardy, Peter | Robertson, George |
| Harman, Ms Harriet | Robinson, Geoffrey |
| Hattersley, Rt Hon Roy | Rogers, Allan |
| Heffer, Eric S. | Rooker, Jeff |
| Henderson, Doug | Rowlands, Ted |
| Hinchliffe, David | Ruddock, Joan |
| Hogg, N. (C'nauld & Kilsyth) | Salmond, Alex |
| Holland, Stuart | Sedgemore, Brian |
| Hood, Jimmy | Sheerman, Barry |
| Howarth, George (Knowsley N) | Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert |
| Howell, Rt Hon D. (S'heath) | Shore, Rt Hon Peter |
| Howells, Geraint | Short, Clare |
| Hoyle, Doug | Skinner, Dennis |
| Hughes, John (Coventry NE) | Smith, Andrew (Oxford E) |
| Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) | Snape, Peter |
| Hughes, Roy (Newport E) | Soley, Clive |
| Hughes, Sean (Knowsley S) | Spearing, Nigel |
| Hughes, Simon (Southwark) | Steel, Rt Hon David |
| Illsley, Eric | Steinberg, Gerry |
| Janner, Greville | Stott, Roger |
| John, Brynmor | Strang, Gavin |
| Jones, Martyn (Clwyd S W) | Straw, Jack |
| Kirkwood, Archy | Taylor, Matthew (Truro) |
| Lambie, David | Thompson, Jack (Wansbeck) |
| Lamond, James | Turner, Dennis |
| Leighton, Ron | Vaz, Keith |
| Lestor, Joan (Eccles) | Wall, Pat |
| Lewis, Terry | Wallace, James |
| NOES | |
| Aitken, Jonathan | Cran, James |
| Alexander, Richard | Currie, Mrs Edwina |
| Alison, Rt Hon Michael | Curry, David |
| Allason, Rupert | Davies, Q. (Stamf'd & Spald'g) |
| Amery, Rt Hon Julian | Davis, David (Boothferry) |
| Amess, David | Day, Stephen |
| Amos, Alan | Devlin, Tim |
| Arbuthnot, James | Dickens, Geoffrey |
| Arnold, Jacques (Gravesham) | Dicks, Terry |
| Arnold, Tom (Hazel Grove) | Dorrell, Stephen |
| Ashby, David | Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Dover, Den |
| Atkins, Robert | Dunn, Bob |
| Atkinson, David | Durant, Tony |
| Baker, Rt Hon K (Mole Valley) | Eggar, Tim |
| Baker, Nicholas (Dorset N) | Emery, Sir Peter |
| Baldry, Tony | Evans, David (Welwyn Hatf'd) |
| Banks, Robert (Harrogate) | Evennett, David |
| Batiste, Spencer | Fallon, Michael |
| Bellingham, Henry | Farr, Sir John |
| Bendall, Vivian | Favell, Tony |
| Bennett, Nicholas (Pembroke) | Fenner, Dame Peggy |
| Bevan, David Gilroy | Field, Barry (Isle of Wight) |
| Bilfen, Rt Hon John | Finsberg, Sir Geoffrey |
| Biggs-Davison, Sir John | Fookes, Miss Janet |
| Blackburn, Dr John G. | Forman, Nigel |
| Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter | Forsyth, Michael (Stirling) |
| Body, Sir Richard | Forth, Eric |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Fowler, Rt Hon Norman |
| Boswell, Tim | Fox, Sir Marcus |
| Bottomley, Peter | Franks, Cecil |
| Bottomley, Mrs Virginia | Freeman, Roger |
| Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) | French, Douglas |
| Bowis, John | Fry, Peter |
| Boyson, Rt Hon Dr Sir Rhodes | Gale, Roger |
| Braine, Rt Hon Sir Bernard | Gardiner, George |
| Brandon-Bravo, Martin | Gill, Christopher |
| Brazier, Julian | Goodlad, Alastair |
| Bright, Graham | Goodson-Wickes, Dr Charles |
| Brooke, Rt Hon Peter | Gorman, Mrs Teresa |
| Brown, Michael (Brigg & Cl't's) | Gorst, John |
| Browne, John (Winchester) | Gow, Ian |
| Bruce, Ian (Dorset South) | Gower, Sir Raymond |
| Buchanan-Smith, Rt Hon Alick | Grant, Sir Anthony (CambsSW) |
| Buck, Sir Antony | Greenway, Harry (Ealing N) |
| Burns, Simon | Greenway, John (Ryedale) |
| Burt, Alistair | Gregory, Conal |
| Butcher, John | Griffiths, Sir Eldon (Bury St E') |
| Butler, Chris | Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) |
| Butterfill, John | Grist, Ian |
| Carlisle, John, (Luton N) | Ground, Patrick |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Grylls, Michael |
| Carrington, Matthew | Gummer, Rt Hon John Selwyn |
| Carttiss, Michael | Hamilton, Hon Archie (Epsom) |
| Cash, William | Hamilton, Neil (Tatton) |
| Chalker, Rt Hon Mrs Lynda | Hampson, Dr Keith |
| Channon, Rt Hon Paul | Hanley, Jeremy |
| Chapman, Sydney | Hannam, John |
| Chope, Christopher | Hargreaves, A. (B'ham H'll Gr') |
| Churchill, Mr | Harris, David |
| Clark, Hon Alan (Plym'th S'n) | Hawkins, Christopher |
| Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) | Hayes, Jerry |
| Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) | Heathcoat-Amory, David |
| Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe) | Heddle, John |
| Colvin, Michael | Hicks, Mrs Maureen (Wolv' NE) |
| Conway, Derek | Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. |
| Coombs, Anthony (Wyre F'rest) | Hill, James |
| Coombs, Simon (Swindon) | Hind, Kenneth |
| Cope, John | Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm) |
| Couchman, James | Holt, Richard |
| Hordern, Sir Peter | Nicholson, David (Taunton) |
| Howard, Michael | Nicholson, Emma (Devon West) |
| Howarth, Alan (Strat'd-on-A) | Onslow, Rt Hon Cranley |
| Howarth, G. (Cannock & B'wd) | Oppenheim, Phillip |
| Hughes, Robert G. (Harrow W) | Page, Richard |
| Hunt, David (Wirral W) | Paice, James |
| Hunt, John (Ravensbourne) | Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil |
| Hunter, Andrew | Patnick, Irvine |
| Hurd, Rt Hon Douglas | Patten, Chris (Bath) |
| Irvine, Michael | Patten, John (Oxford W) |
| Irving, Charles | Pattie, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey |
| Jack, Michael | Pawsey, James |
| Jackson, Robert | Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth |
| Janman, Tim | Porter, Barry (Wirral S) |
| Jessel, Toby | Porter, David (Waveney) |
| Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) | Portillo, Michael |
| Jones, Robert B (Herts W) | Powell, William (Corby) |
| Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | Price, Sir David |
| Kellett-Bowman, Dame Elaine | Raffan, Keith |
| Key, Robert | Raison, Rt Hon Timothy |
| King, Roger (B'ham N'thfield) | Rathbone, Tim |
| King, Rt Hon Tom (Bridgwater) | Redwood, John |
| Kirkhope, Timothy | Renton, Tim |
| Knapman, Roger | Rhodes James, Robert |
| Knight, Greg (Derby North) | Riddick, Graham |
| Knight, Dame Jill (Edgbaston) | Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas |
| Knowles, Michael | Ridsdale, Sir Julian |
| Lamont, Rt Hon Norman | Roberts, Wyn (Conwy) |
| Lang, Ian | Roe, Mrs Marion |
| Latham, Michael | Rossi, Sir Hugh |
| Lawrence, Ivan | Rost, Peter |
| Lawson, Rt Hon Nigel | Rowe, Andrew |
| Lee, John (Pendle) | Rumbold, Mrs Angela |
| Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh) | Ryder, Richard |
| Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark | Sackville, Hon Tom |
| Lightbown, David | Sainsbury, Hon Tim |
| Lilley, Peter | Sayeed, Jonathan |
| Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) | Scott, Nicholas |
| Lord, Michael | Shaw, David (Dover) |
| Luce, Rt Hon Richard | Shaw, Sir Giles (Pudsey) |
| Lyell, Sir Nicholas | Shelton, William (Streatham) |
| McCrindle, Robert | Shephard, Mrs G. (Norfolk SW) |
| Macfarlane, Sir Neil | Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) |
| MacGregor, Rt Hon John | Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge) |
| MacKay, Andrew (E Berkshire) | Shersby, Michael |
| Maclean, David | Sims, Roger |
| McLoughlin, Patrick | Skeet, Sir Trevor |
| McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) | Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick) |
| Major, Rt Hon John | Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield) |
| Mans, Keith | Soames, Hon Nicholas |
| Maples, John | Speed, Keith |
| Marland, Paul | Speller, Tony |
| Marlow, Tony | Spicer, Sir Jim (Dorset W) |
| Marshall, John (Hendon S) | Spicer, Michael (S Worcs) |
| Marshall, Michael (Arundel) | Squire, Robin |
| Martin, David (Portsmouth S) | Stanbrook, Ivor |
| Mates, Michael | Stanley, Rt Hon John |
| Maude, Hon Francis | Steen, Anthony |
| Mawhinney, Dr Brian | Stern, Michael |
| Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin | Stevens, Lewis |
| Mayhew, Rt Hon Sir Patrick | Stewart, Allan (Eastwood) |
| Mellor, David | Stewart, Andy (Sherwood) |
| Miller, Hal | Stewart, Ian (Hertfordshire N) |
| Mills, lain | Stokes, John |
| Mitchell, Andrew (Gedling) | Stradling Thomas, Sir John |
| Mitchell, David (Hants NW) | Sumberg, David |
| Moate, Roger | Summerson, Hugo |
| Monro, Sir Hector | Tapsell, Sir Peter |
| Montgomery, Sir Fergus | Taylor, Ian (Esher) |
| Moore, Rt Hon John | Taylor, John M (Solihull) |
| Morris, M (N'hampton S) | Taylor, Teddy (S'end E) |
| Morrison, Hon P (Chester) | Tebbit, Rt Hon Norman |
| Moss, Malcolm | Thompson, D. (Calder Valley) |
| Moynihan, Hon Colin | Thompson, Patrick (Norwich N) |
| Neale, Gerrard | Thorne, Neil |
| Needham, Richard | Thornton, Malcolm |
| Nelson, Anthony | Thurnham, Peter |
| Neubert, Michael | Townend, John (Bridlington) |
| Newton, Rt Hon Tony | Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath) |
| Nicholls, Patrick | Tracey, Richard |
| Walley, Joan | Worthington, Tony |
| Welsh, Andrew (Angus E) | Young, David (Bolton SE) |
| Welsh, Michael (Doncaster N) | Young, Sir George (Acton) |
| Wigley, Dafydd | |
| Williams, Rt Hon Alan | Tellers for the Ayes: |
| Williams, Alan W. (Carm'then) | Mr. Frank Haynes and |
| Wilson, Brian | Mr. Frank Cook. |
| Wise, Mrs Audrey |
| Tredinnck, David | Wells, Bowen |
| Trippier, David | Wheeler, John |
| Trotter, Neville | Whitney, Ray |
| Twinn, Dr Ian | Widdecombe, Ann |
| Vaughan, Sir Gerard | Wilkinson, John |
| Waddington, Rt Hon David | Wilshire, David |
| Waldegrave, Hon William | Winterton, Mrs Ann |
| Walden, George | Wolfson, Mark |
| Walker, Bill (T'side North) | Wood, Timothy |
| Walker, Rt Hon P. (W'cester) | Woodcock, Mike |
| Waller, Gary | Yeo, Tim |
| Walters, Dennis | Younger, Rt Hon George |
| Ward, John | |
| Wardle, Charles (Bexhill) | Tellers for the Noes: |
| Warren, Kenneth | Mr. Robert Boscawen and |
| Watts, John | Mr. Tristan Garel-Jones. |
§ Question accordingly negatived.
It being after Ten o'clock, MR. SPEAKER proceeded, pursuant to the Orders [22 February and 13 April] and the Resolution [18 April] to put forthwith the Question on amendments moved by a member of the Government, of which notice had been given, to the end of clause 103.