HC Deb 08 July 1985 vol 82 cc831-6

.—(1) The Secretary of State may by order provide for the making of grants to eligible charities out of money received from the disposal of land by the residuary bodies established by Part VII of this Act.

(2) In this section "eligible charity" means, in relation to a residuary body, a body of persons or trust established for charitable purposes only, being purposes which are wholly or primarily for the benefit of the area for which the residuary body is established."

Read a Second time.

Amendment (a) proposed to the Lords amendment: in line 2, leave out 'may' and insert 'shall'. — [Mr. Allan Roberts.]

Question put, That the amendment be made:—

The House divided: Ayes 195, Noes 320.

Division No. 260] [9.59 pm
AYES
Abse, Leo Bray, Dr Jeremy
Alton, David Brown, Gordon (D'f'mline E)
Anderson, Donald Brown, Hugh D. (Provan)
Ashdown, Paddy Brown, N. (N'c'tle-u-Tyne E)
Ashton, Joe Brown, R. (N'c'tle-u-Tyne N)
Atkinson, N. (Tottenham) Brown, Ron (E'burgh, Leith)
Bagier, Gordon A. T. Bruce, Malcolm
Banks, Tony (Newham NW) Buchan, Norman
Barnett, Guy Caborn, Richard
Barron, Kevin Callaghan, Jim (Heyw'd & M)
Beckett, Mrs Margaret Campbell, Ian
Beith, A. J. Campbell-Savours, Dale
Benn, Tony Carter-Jones, Lewis
Bennett, A. (Dent'n & Red'sh) Cartwright, John
Bermingham, Gerald Clark, Dr David (S Shields)
Bidwell, Sydney Clarke, Thomas
Blair, Anthony Clay, Robert
Boothroyd, Miss Betty Clwyd, Mrs Ann
Boyes, Roland Cocks, Rt Hon M. (Bristol S.)
Cohen, Harry Litherland, Robert
Coleman, Donald Lloyd, Tony (Stretford)
Conlan, Bernard Lofthouse, Geoffrey
Cook, Frank (Stockton North) Loyden, Edward
Cook, Robin F (Livingston) McCartney, Hugh
Corbett, Robin McDonald, Dr Oonagh
Corbyn, Jeremy McKelvey, William
Cowans, Harry McNamara, Kevin
Cox, Thomas (Tooting) McTaggart, Robert
Craigen, J. M. McWilliam, John
Cunliffe, Lawrence Madden, Max
Dalyell, Tam Marek, Dr John
Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (L'lli) Marshall, David (Shettleston)
Davies, Ronald (Caerphilly) Mason, Rt Hon Roy
Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'ge H'l) Maxton, John
Deakins, Eric Maynard, Miss Joan
Dewar, Donald Meacher, Michael
Dixon, Donald Meadowcroft, Michael
Dobson, Frank Michie, William
Dormand, Jack Millan, Rt Hon Bruce
Dubs, Alfred Mitchell, Austin (G't Grimsby)
Duffy, A. E. P. Morris, Rt Hon A. (W'shawe)
Dunwoody, Hon Mrs G. Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon)
Eadie, Alex Nellist, David
Eastham, Ken Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon
Edwards, Bob (Wh'mpt'n SE) O'Brien, William
Evans, John (St. Helens N) O'Neill, Martin
Ewing, Harry Orme, Rt Hon Stanley
Fatchett, Derek Park, George
Faulds, Andrew Parry, Robert
Field, Frank (Birkenhead) Patchett, Terry
Fields, T. (L'pool Broad Gn) Pavitt, Laurie
Fisher, Mark Penhaligon, David
Flannery, Martin Pike, Peter
Foot, Rt Hon Michael Powell, Raymond (Ogmore)
Forrester, John Prescott, John
Foster, Derek Radice, Giles
Fraser, J. (Norwood) Randall, Stuart
Freeson, Rt Hon Reginald Redmond, M.
Freud, Clement Flees, Rt Hon M. (Leeds S)
Garrett, W. E. Richardson, Ms Jo
George, Bruce Roberts, Allan (Bootle)
Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John Roberts, Ernest (Hackney N)
Godman, Dr Norman Robertson, George
Golding, John Robinson, G. (Coventry NW)
Gould, Bryan Rogers, Allan
Hamilton, James (M'well N) Rooker, J. W.
Hancock, Mr. Michael Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight)
Hardy, Peter Rowlands, Ted
Harman, Ms Harriet Sedgemore, Brian
Harrison, Rt Hon Walter Sheerman, Barry
Hart, Rt Hon Dame Judith Sheldon, Rt Hon R.
Haynes, Frank Shore, Rt Hon Peter
Heffer, Eric S. Short, Ms Clare (Ladywood)
Hogg, N. (C'nauld & Kilsyth) Short, Mrs R.(W'hampt'n NE)
Holland, Stuart (Vauxhall) Silkin, Rt Hon J.
Home Robertson, John Skinner, Dennis
Howells, Geraint Smith, C. (Isl'ton S & F'bury)
Hoyle, Douglas Smith, Rt Hon J. (M'kl'ds E)
Hughes, Dr. Mark (Durham) Snape, Peter
Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N) Soley, Clive
Hughes, Roy (Newport East) Steel, Rt Hon David
Hughes, Simon (Southward) Stott, Roger
Janner, Hon Greville Strang, Gavin
Jenkins, Rt Hon Roy (Hillh'd) Straw, Jack
John, Brynmor Thompson, J. (Wansbeck)
Johnston, Sir Russell Thorne, Stan (Preston)
Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside) Tinn, James
Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald Torney, Tom
Kennedy, Charles Wainwright, R.
Kilroy-Silk, Robert Wallace, James
Kinnock, Rt Hon Neil Warden, Gareth (Gower)
Kirkwood, Archy Wareing, Robert
Lambie, David Weetch, Ken
Lamond, James White, James
Leighton, Ronald Williams, Rt Hon A.
Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) Winnick, David
Lewis, Terence (Worsley) Woodall, Alec
Young, David (Bolton SE) Mr. Allen McKay and
Mr. Sean Hughes.
Tellers for the Ayes:
NOES
Adley, Robert Dunn, Robert
Aitken, Jonathan Durant, Tony
Alexander, Richard Edwards, Rt Hon N. (P'broke)
Alison, Rt Hon Michael Eggar, Tirn
Amery, Rt Hon Julian Emery, Sir Peter
Amess, David Evennett, David
Ancram, Michael Eyre, Sir Reginald
Ashby, David Fairbairn, Nicholas
Aspinwall, Jack Fallon, Michael
Atkins, Rt Hon Sir H. Farr, Sir John
Atkins, Robert (South Ribble) Favell, Anthony
Atkinson, David (B'rn'th E) Fenner, Mrs Peggy
Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Vall'y) Finsberg, Sir Geoffrey
Baker, Nicholas (N Dorset) Fletcher, Alexander
Baldry, Tony Fookes, Miss Janet
Banks, Robert (Harrogate) Forman, Nigel
Batiste, Spencer Forsyth, Michael (Stirling)
Bellingham, Henry Forth, Eric
Bendall, Vivian Fowler, Rt Hon Norman
Bennett, Rt Hon Sir Frederic Fox, Marcus
Benyon, William Franks, Cecil
Best, Keith Fraser, Peter (Angus East)
Bevan, David Gilroy Freeman, Roger
Biffen, Rt Hon John Fry, Peter
Biggs-Davison, Sir John Gale, Roger
Blaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter Galley, Roy
Body, Richard Gardiner, George (Reigate)
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas Gardner, Sir Edward (Fylde)
Bottomley, Peter Garel-Jones, Tristan
Bottomley, Mrs Virginia Glyn, Dr Alan
Bowden, A. (Brighton K'to'n) Goodlad, Alastair
Bowden, Gerald (Dulwich) Gow, Ian
Braine, Rt Hon Sir Bernard Gower, Sir Raymond
Brandon-Bravo, Martin Grant, Sir Anthony
Bright, Graham Greenway, Harry
Brinton, Tim Gregory, Conal
Brittan, Rt Hon Leon Griffiths, Sir Eldon
Brooke, Hon Peter Griffiths, Peter (Portsrn'th N)
Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thpes) Grist, Ian
Bruinvels, Peter Grylls, Michael
Bryan, Sir Paul Hamilton, Hon A. (Epsom)
Buck, Sir Antony Hamilton, Neil (Tatton)
Budgen, Nick Hampson, Dr Keith
Burt, Alistair Hannam,John
Butcher, John Hargreaves, Kenneth
Butler, Hon Adam Harris, David
Butterfill, John Haselhurst, Alan
Carlisle, John (N Luton) Havers, Rt Hon Sir Michael
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Hawkins, Sir Paul (SW N'folk)
Carlisle, Rt Hon M. (Wton S) Hawksley, Warren
Carttiss, Michael Hayes, J.
Cash, William Hayhoe, Rt Hon Barney
Chalker, Mrs Lynda Heathcoat-Amory, David
Chapman, Sydney Heddle, John
Chope, Christopher Henderson, Barry
Churchill, W. S. Heseltine, Rt Hon Michael
Clark, Hon A. (Plym'th S'n) Hickmet, Richard
Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L.
Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) Hind, Kenneth
Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe) Hirst, Michael
Clegg, Sir Walter Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm)
Cockeram, Eric Holland, Sir Philip (Gedling)
Colvin, Michael Holt, Richard
Coombs, Simon Hordern, Sir Peter
Cope, John Howard, Michael
Corrie, John Howarth, Alan (Stratf'd-on-A)
Couchman, James Howarth, Gerald (Cannock)
Cranborne, Viscount Howell, Rt Hon D. (G'ldford)
Crouch, David Howell, Ralph (N Norfolk)
Currie, Mrs Edwina Hubbard-Miles, Peter
Dicks, Terry Hunt, John (Ravensbourne)
Dorrell, Stephen Hunter, Andrew
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord J. Irving, Charles
Dover, Den Jenkin, Rt Hon Patrick
du Cann, Rt Hon Sir Edward Jessel Toby
Jones, Gwilym (Cardiff N) Proctor, K. Harvey
Jones, Robert (W Herts) Pym, Rt Hon Francis
Jopling, Rt Hon Michael Raffan, Keith
Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine Raison, Rt Hon Timothy
Key, Robert Rathbone, Tim
King, Roger (B'ham N'field) Rees, Rt Hon Peter (Dover)
King, Rt Hon Tom Renton, Tim
Knight, Greg (Derby N) Rhodes James, Robert
Knowles, Michael Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon
Lamont, Norman Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas
Lang, Ian Ridsdale, Sir Julian
Latham, Michael Rifkind, Malcolm
Lawler, Geoffrey Roberts, Wyn (Conwy)
Lawson, Rt Hon Nigel Robinson, Mark (N'port W)
Lee, John (Pendle) Roe, Mrs Marion
Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh) Rossi, Sir Hugh
Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark Rost, Peter
Lewis, Sir Kenneth (Stamf'd) Rowe, Andrew
Lightbown, David Rumbold, Mrs Angela
Lloyd, Ian (Havant) Ryder, Richard
Lloyd, Peter, (Fareham) Sackville, Hon Thomas
Lord, Michael Sainsbury, Hon Timothy
Lyell, Nicholas Scott, Nicholas
McCrindle, Robert Shaw, Giles (Pudsey)
McCurley, Mrs Anna Shelton, William (Streatham)
Macfarlane, Neil Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)
MacKay, Andrew (Berkshire) Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge)
MacKay, John (Argyll & Bute) Shersby, Michael
Maclean, David John Silvester, Fred
McQuarrie, Albert Sims, Roger
Madel, David Skeet, T. H. H.
Major, John Smith, Sir Dudley (Warwick)
Malins, Humfrey Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield)
Malone, Gerald Soames, Hon Nicholas
Maples, John Speller, Tony
Marland, Paul Spencer, Derek
Marshall, Michael (Arundel) Spicer, Jim (W Dorset)
Mates, Michael Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)
Maude, Hon Francis Squire, Robin
Mawhinney, Dr Brian Stanbrook, Ivor
Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin Stanley, John
Mayhew, Sir Patrick Steen, Anthony
Mellor, David Stern, Michael
Merchant, Piers Stevens, Lewis (Nuneaton)
Miller, Hal (B'grove) Stewart, Allan (Eastwood)
Mills, Iain (Meriden) Stewart, Andrew (Sherwood)
Mills, Sir Peter (West Devon) Stewart, Ian (N Hertf'dshire)
Mitchell, David (NW Hants) Stokes, John
Moate, Roger Stradling Thomas, J.
Molyneaux, Rt Hon James Sumberg, David
Montgomery, Sir Fergus Tapsell, Sir Peter
Moore, John Taylor, John (Solihull)
Morris, M. (N'hampton, S) Taylor, Teddy (S'end E)
Moynihan, Hon C. Tebbit, Rt Hon Norman
Mudd, David Temple-Morris, Peter
Murphy, Christopher Terlezki, Stefan
Neale, Gerrard Thatcher, Rt Hon Mrs M.
Needham, Richard Thompson, Donald (Calder V)
Neubert, Michael Thompson, Patrick (N'ich N)
Newton, Tony Thorne, Neil (Ilford S)
Nicholls, Patrick Thornton, Malcolm
Norris, Steven Thurnham, Peter
Onslow, Cranley Townend, John (Bridlington)
Oppenheim, Rt Hon Mrs S. Tracey, Richard
Osborn, Sir John Trippier, David
Ottaway, Richard Trotter, Neville
Page, Sir John (Harrow W) Twinn, Dr Ian
Page, Richard (Herts SW) van Straubenzee, Sir W.
Parkinson, Rt Hon Cecil Vaughan, Sir Gerard
Parris, Matthew Viggers, Peter
Patten, J. (Oxf W & Abdgn) Waddington, David
Pattie, Geoffrey Wakeham, Rt Hon John
Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth Walden, George
Percival, Rt Hon Sir Ian Walker, Bill (T'side N)
Pollock, Alexander Wall, Sir Patrick
Portillo, Michael Waller, Gary
Powell, Rt Hon J. E. (S Down) Ward, John
Powell, William (Corby) Wardle, C. (Bexhill)
Powley, John Watson, John
Price, Sir David Watts, John
Wells, Sir John (Maidstone) Woodcock, Michael
Wheeler, John Yeo, Tim
Whitfield, John Young, Sir George (Acton)
Whitney, Raymond
Wiggin, Jerry Tellers for the Noes:
Wolfson, Mark Mr. Carol Mather and
Wood, Timothy Mr. Robert Boscawen.

Question accordingly negatived.

It being after Ten o'clock, MR. SPEAKER, proceeded, pursuant to the Order this day, to put the Questions necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded at that hour.

Lords amendments Nos. 44 to 47 agreed to.