HC Deb 04 April 1984 vol 57 cc1021-4

`It shall be the duty of the Secretary of State

  1. (1)(a) subject to subsection (2) below to consider any request received from a London authority in relation to the provision of travel concessions by an independent transport operator as defined in subsection 48(8) of this Act and, if he considers it appropriate, to direct such an operator to provide travel concessions to persons eligible to receive them in accordance with subsection 48(7) of this Act similar to those concessions which are from time to time available on services provided by London Regional Transport and the Railways Board
  2. (b) in relation to subsection (a) above, if he considers it appropriate, to give directions as to the maximum payments which may be made by a local authority to an independent transport service operator for the provision of travel concessions under this Section.

(2) No direction under subsection 1(a)above shall be made by the Secretary of State for the provision of travel concessions by any independent transport operator unless the Secretary of State is satisfied that financial provision for them will be made pursuant to subsections (1) and (3) of section 48 of this Act. '.—[Mr. Prescott.]

Brought up, and read the First time.

Motion made, and Question put, That the clause be read a Second time:—

The House divided: Ayes 181, Noes 268.

Division No. 227] [7.40 pm
AYES
Abse, Leo George, Bruce
Adams, Allen (Paisley N) Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John
Alton, David Gould, Bryan
Anderson, Donald Hamilton, W. W. (Central Fife)
Ashley, Rt Hon Jack Hardy, Peter
Ashton, Joe Harman, Ms Harriet
Atkinson, N. (Tottenham) Harrison, Rt Hon Walter
Banks, Tony (Newham NW) Haynes, Frank
Barnett, Guy Healey, Rt Hon Denis
Barron, Kevin Heffer, Eric S.
Beckett, Mrs Margaret Hogg, N. (C'nauld & Kilsyth)
Beith, A. J. Holland, Stuart (Vauxhall)
Bell, Stuart Howells, Geraint
Benn, Tony Hoyle, Douglas
Bennett, A. (Dent'n & Red'sh) Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N)
Bermingham, Gerald Hughes, Roy (Newport East)
Blair, Anthony Hughes, Sean (Knowsley S)
Boothroyd, Miss Betty Hughes, Simon (Southwark)
Boyes, Roland Janner, Hon Greville
Bray, Dr Jeremy John, Brynmor
Brown, Gordon (D'f'mline E) Johnston, Russell
Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) Jones, Barry (Alyn & Deeside)
Brown, N. (N'c'tle-u-Tyne E) Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald
Brown, R. (N'c'tle-u-Tyne N) Kennedy, Charles
Brown, Ron (E'burgh, Leith) Kilroy-Silk, Robert
Bruce, Malcolm Kirkwood, Archibald
Buchan, Norman Lambie, David
Caborn, Richard Leadbitter, Ted
Callaghan, Jim (Heyw'd & M) Leighton, Ronald
Campbell, Ian Lewis, Ron (Carlisle)
Campbell-Savours, Dale Lewis, Terence (Worsley)
Carlile, Alexander (Montg'y) Lloyd, Tony (Stretford)
Carter-Jones, Lewis Lofthouse, Geoffrey
Cartwright, John Loyden, Edward
Clark, Dr David (S Shields) McCartney, Hugh
Clarke, Thomas McDonald, Dr Oonagh
Clay, Robert McKay, Allen (Penistone)
Cocks, Rt Hon M. (Bristol S.) McKelvey, William
Cohen, Harry Maclennan, Robert
Coleman, Donald McNamara, Kevin
Conlan, Bernard McTaggart, Robert
Cook, Robin F. (Livingston) Madden, Max
Corbett, Robin Marek, Dr John
Corbyn, Jeremy Marshall, David (Shettleston)
Cox, Thomas (Tooting) Mason, Rt Hon Roy
Craigen, J. M. Maxton, John
Crowthor, Stan Maynard, Miss Joan
Cunliffe, Lawrence Meacher, Michael
Dalyell, Tam Meadowcroft, Michael
Davies, Rt Hon Denzil (L'lli) Michie, William
Davies, Ronald (Caerphilly) Mikardo, Ian
Davis, Terry (B'ham, H'ge H'l) Millan, Rt Hon Bruce
Deakins, Eric Mitchell, Austin (G't Grimsby)
Dewar, Donald Morris, Rt Hon A. (W'shawe)
Dixon, Donald Morris, Rt Hon J. (Aberavon)
Dobson, Frank Nellist, David
Dormand, Jack Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon
Douglas, Dick O'Brien, William
Dubs, Alfred O'Neill, Martin
Duffy, A. E. P. Parry, Robert
Dunwoody, Hon Mrs G. Patchett, Terry
Eadie, Alex Pavitt, Laurie
Eastham, Ken Pendry, Tom
Edwards, Bob (W'h'mpt'n SE) Penhaligon, David
Ellis, Raymond Pike, Peter
Evans, John (St. Helens N) Powell, Raymond (Ogmore)
Ewing, Harry Prescott, John
Fatchett, Derek Randall, Stuart
Field, Frank (Birkenhead) Redmond, M.
Fields, T. (L'pool Broad Gn) Rees, Rt Hon M. (Leeds S)
Fisher, Mark Richardson, Ms Jo
Flannery, Martin Roberts, Ernest (Hackney N)
Foster, Derek Robertson, George
Fraser, J. (Norwood) Robinson, G. (Coventry NW)
Freeson, Rt Hon Reginald Rogers, Allan
Freud, Clement Rooker, J. W.
Ross, Ernest (Dundee W) Thomas, Dafydd (Merioneth)
Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight) Thomas, Dr R. (Carmarthen)
Rowlands, Ted Thompson, J. (Wansbeck)
Ryman, John Tinn, James
Sedgemore, Brian Torney, Tom
Sheerman, Barry Wardell, Gareth (Gower)
Shore, Rt Hon Peter Wareing, Robert
Short, Ms Clare (Ladywood) Weetch, Ken
Silkin, Rt Hon J. Welsh, Michael
Skinner, Dennis Williams, Rt Hon A.
Smith, C.(Isl'ton S & F'bury) Winnick, David
Snape, Peter Young, David (Bolton SE)
Spearing, Nigel
Steel, Rt Hon David Tellers for the Ayes:
Stott, Roger Mr. James Hamilton and Mr. John McWilliam.
Strang, Gavin
Straw, Jack
NOES
Adley, Robert du Cann, Rt Hon Edward
Aitken, Jonathan Dunn, Robert
Alexander, Richard Durant, Tony
Alison, Rt Hon Michael Edwards, Rt Hon N. (P'broke)
Amery, Rt Hon Julian Evennett, David
Amess, David Eyre, Sir Reginald
Ancram, Michael Fairbairn, Nicholas
Arnold, Tom Fallon, Michael
Ashby, David Farr, John
Aspinwall, Jack Favell, Anthony
Atkins, Robert (South Ribble) Fenner, Mrs Peggy
Atkinson, David (B'm'th E) Finsberg, Sir Geoffrey
Baker, Rt Hon K. (Mole Vall'y) Fletcher, Alexander
Baker, Nicholas (N Dorset) Fookes, Miss Janet
Baldry, Anthony Forman, Nigel
Banks, Robert (Harrogate) Forth, Eric
Beaumont-Dark, Anthony Fowler, Rt Hon Norman
Bellingham, Henry Fox, Marcus
Bendall, Vivian Franks, Cecil
Bennett, Sir Frederic (T'bay) Freeman, Roger
Benyon, William Gale, Roger
Berry, Sir Anthony Gardiner, George (Reigate)
Biggs-Davison, Sir John Gardner, Sir Edward (Fylde)
Body, Richard Garel-Jones, Tristan
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas Glyn, Dr Alan
Boscawen, Hon Robert Goodhart, Sir Philip
Bottomley, Peter Goodlad, Alastair
Braine, Sir Bernard Gorst, John
Brandon-Bravo, Martin Gow, lan
Bright, Graham Grant, Sir Anthony
Brinton, Tim Greenway, Harry
Brown, M. (Brigg & Cl'thpes) Gregory, Conal
Bruinvels, Peter Griffiths, E. (B'y St Edm'ds)
Bryan, Sir Paul Griffiths, Peter (Portsm'th N)
Buck, Sir Antony Ground, Patrick
Budgen, Nick Gummer, John Selwyn
Burt, Alistair Hamilton, Hon A. (Epsom)
Butcher, John Hamilton, Neil (Tatton)
Butler, Hon Adam Hampson, Dr Keith
Butterfill, John Hanley, Jeremy
Carlisle, John (N Luton) Harris, David
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Harvey, Robert
Chalker, Mrs Lynda Havers, Rt Hon Sir Michael
Chapman, Sydney Hawkins, C. (High Peak)
Chope, Christopher Hawkins, Sir Paul (SW N'folk)
Clark, Hon A. (Plym'th S'n) Hawksley, Warren
Clark, Dr Michael (Rochford) Hayes, J.
Clark, Sir W. (Croydon S) Hayhoe, Barney
Clarke, Rt Hon K. (Rushcliffe) Hayward, Robert
Clegg, Sir Walter Heathcoat-Amory, David
Cockeram, Eric Heddle, John
Colvin, Michael Henderson, Barry
Conway, Derek Hickmet, Richard
Coombs, Simon Hicks, Robert
Cope, John Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L.
Cormack, Patrick Hill, James
Couchman, James Hind, Kenneth
Crouch, David Hirst, Michael
Currie, Mrs Edwina Hogg, Hon Douglas (Gr'th'm)
Dorrell, Stephen Holland, Sir Philip (Gedling)
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord J. Holt, Richard
Hooson, Tom Rowe, Andrew
Hordern, Peter Rumbold, Mrs Angela
Howarth, Alan (Stratf'd-on-A) Ryder, Richard
Howarth, Gerald (Cannock) Sackville, Hon Thomas
Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Sainsbury, Hon Timothy
Howell, Rt Hon D. (G'ldford) Sayeed, Jonathan
Hubbard-Miles, Peter Shaw, Giles (Pudsey)
Hunt, David (Wirral) Shelton, William (Streatham)
Hunt, John (Ravensbourne) Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge)
Hunter, Andrew Shersby, Michael
Irving, Charles Silvester, Fred
Jackson, Robert Sims, Roger
Jessel, Toby Skeet, T. H. H.
Johnson-Smith, Sir Geoffrey Smith, Tim (Beaconsfield)
Jones, Robert (W Herts) Soames, Hon Nicholas
Joseph, Rt Hon Sir Keith Speed, Keith
Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine Speller, Tony
Kershaw, Sir Anthony Spencer, Derek
Key, Robert Spicer, Jim (W Dorset)
King, Rt Hon Tom Spicer, Michael (S Worcs)
Knight, Gregory (Derby N) Squire, Robin
Knight, Mrs Jill (Edgbaston) Stanbrook, Ivor
Lamont, Norman Steen, Anthony
Lawler, Geoffrey Stern, Michael
Lawrence, Ivan Stevens, Lewis (Nuneaton)
Lee, John (Pendle) Stevens, Martin (Fulham)
Leigh, Edward (Gainsbor'gh) Stewart, Allan (Eastwood)
Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark Stewart, Andrew (Sherwood)
Lester, Jim Stewart, Ian (N Hertf'dshire)
Lewis, Sir Kenneth (Stamf'd) Stokes, John
Lilley, Peter Stradling Thomas, J.
Lloyd, Peter, (Fareham) Sumberg, David
Lord, Michael Taylor, John (Solihull)
Lyell, Nicholas Taylor, Teddy (S'end E)
MacKay, Andrew (Berkshire) Terlezki, Stefan
Maginnis, Ken Thomas, Rt Hon Peter
Major, John Thompson, Donald (Calder V)
Maples, John Thompson, Patrick (N'ich N)
Marland, Paul Thorne, Neil (Ilford S)
Mather, Carol Thornton, Malcolm
Mawhinney, Dr Brian Townend, John (Bridlington)
Merchant, Piers Townsend, Cyril D. (B'heath)
Meyer, Sir Anthony Trotter, Neville
Mills, Iain (Meriden) Twinn, Dr Ian
Mills, Sir Peter (West Devon) van Straubenzee, Sir W.
Miscampbell, Norman Vaughan, Sir Gerard
Moate, Roger Viggers, Peter
Molyneaux, Rt Hon James Wakeham, Rt Hon John
Monro, Sir Hector Waldegrave, Hon William
Morrison, Hon C. (Devizes) Walden, George
Moynihan, Hon C. Walker, Cecil (Belfast N)
Mudd, David Walker, Bill (T'side N)
Murphy, Christopher Wall, Sir Patrick
Needham, Richard Waller, Gary
Newton, Tony Wardle, C. (Bexhill)
Nicholson, J. Watson, John
Onslow, Cranley Watts, John
Page, Richard (Herts SW) Wells, John (Maidstone)
Peacock, Mrs Elizabeth Wheeler, John
Percival, Rt Hon Sir Ian Whitfield, John
Pink, R. Bonner Whitney, Raymond
Pollock, Alexander Wiggin, Jerry
Powell, Rt Hon J. E. (S Down) Wilkinson, John
Powley, John Winterton, Mrs Ann
Raison, Rt Hon Timothy Winterton, Nicholas
Renton, Tim Wolfson, Mark
Rhodes James, Robert Wood, Timothy
Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon Woodcock, Michael
Ridley, Rt Hon Nicholas Yeo, Tim
Ridsdale, Sir Julian Young, Sir George (Acton)
Roberts, Wyn (Conwy) Younger, Rt Hon George
Robinson, Mark (N'port W)
Roe, Mrs Marion Tellers for the Noes:
Rossi, Sir Hugh Mr. Ian Lang and Mr. Michael Neubert
Rost, Peter

Question accordingly negatived.

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