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Amendments made, No. 90, in page 68, line 46, column 3 at end insert—
'In section 147(1)(d) the words "or other person authorised by the licensee of the vehicle".'.—[Mr. Iain Mills.]
§ No. 91, in page 70, line 26, column 3, after 44(4)' insert'—
- (a) the words from "to public service vehicles" to "passengers or";
- (b) the words from "but shall apply" to "1978";
- (c)'.
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No. 92, in page 70, line 50, column 3, at beginning insert—
'Section 5(10).
Section 6.'.—[Mr. Fowler.]
§ Mr. Kenneth ClarkeI beg to move amendment No. 94, in page 77, line 26, at end insert—
'1977 c. 20 Transport (Financial Provisions) Act 1977. Section 2.'The amendment repeals an obsolete section of the 1977 Act.
§ Amendment agreed to.
12.25 am§ Mr. FowlerI beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.
The merits of the Bill are self-evident and overwhelming, and I ask the House to support it.
§ Mr. BoothThe Bill rejects the appearance and judgment of public transport operators in Britain. It frustrates local authorities that seek to develop good transport services. It creates a major 1363 problem for those people who run railway pension schemes. It throws an efficient and properly run public sector of the freight transport industry to the private sector. It will win some cheers at the Tory Party conference, but those cheers will be purchased at a high price for the public service operators and the
§ people who are served by them. I therefore ask my hon. Friends to vote against the Bill.
§ Question put, That the Bill be now read the Third time:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 272, Noes 207.
1365| Division No. 247] | AYES | [12.26 am |
| Alexander, Richard | Farr, John | Lyell, Nicholas |
| Ancram, Michael | Fell, Anthony | McCrindle, Robert |
| Arnold, Tom | Fenner, Mrs Peggy | Macfarlane, Nell |
| Aspinwall, Jack | Finsberg, Geoffrey | MacGregor, John |
| Atkins, Robert (Preston North) | Fisher, Sir Nigel | MacKay, John (Argyll) |
| Atkinson, David (B'mouth, East) | Fletcher, Alexander (Edinburgh N) | McNair-Wilson, Michael (Newbury) |
| Baker, Kenneth (St. Marylebone) | Fookes, Miss Janet | McNair-Wilson, Patrick (New Forest) |
| Baker, Nicholas (North Dorset) | Forman, Nigel | McQuarrie, Albert |
| Beaumont-Dark, Anthony | Fowler, Rt Hon Norman | Madel, David |
| Bell, Sir Ronald | Fox, Marcus | Major, John |
| Bendall, Vivian | Fraser, Peter (South Angus) | Marlow, Tony |
| Benyon, Thomas (Abingdon) | Fry, Peter | Marshall, Michael (Arundel) |
| Benyon, W. (Buckingham) | Gardiner, George (Reigate) | Mather, Carol |
| Best, Keith | Gardner, Edward (South Fylde) | Maude, Rt Hon Angus |
| Biffen, Rt Hon John | Garel-Jones, Tristan | Mawby, Ray |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Goodhart, Philip | Mawhinney, Dr Brian |
| Blackburn, John | Goodhew, Victor | Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin |
| Blaker, Peter | Gorst, John | Mayhew, Patrick |
| Body, Richard | Gow, Ian | Mellor, David |
| Bonsor, Sir Nicholas | Gower, Sir Raymond | Meyer, Sir Anthony |
| Boscawen, Hon Robert | Gray, Hamish | Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove & Redditch) |
| Bottomley, Peter (Woolwich West) | Greenway, Harry | Mills, Iain (Meriden) |
| Bowden, Andrew | Grieve, Percy | Mills, Peter (West Devon) |
| Boyson, Dr Rhodes | Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St Edmunds) | Miscampbell, Norman |
| Bright, Graham | Griffiths, Peter (Portsmouth N) | Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) |
| Brinton, Tim | Grist, Ian | Moate, Roger |
| Brittan, Leon | Grylls, Michael | Molyneaux, James |
| Brocklebank-Fowler, Christopher | Gummer, John Selwyn | Monro, Hector |
| Brooke, Hon Peter | Hamilton, Hon Archie (Eps'm&Ew'll) | Montgomery, Fergus |
| Brown, Michael (Brigg & Sc'thorpe) | Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | Morris, Michael (Northampton, Sth) Morrison, Hon Charles (Devizes) |
| Browne, John (Winchester) | Hannam, John | |
| Bruce-Gardyne, John | Haselhurst, Alan | Morrison, Hon Peter (City of Chester) |
| Buck, Antony | Havers, Rt Hon Sir Michael | Mudd, David |
| Budgen, Nick | Hawksley, Warren | Murphy, Christopher |
| Bulmer, Esmond | Hayhoe, Barney | Myles, David |
| Burden, F. A. | Heddle, John | Neale, Gerrard |
| Butcher, John | Henderson, Barry | Needham, Richard |
| Butler, Hon Adam | Heseltine, Rt Hon Michael | Nelson, Anthony Neubert, Michael |
| Cadbury, Jocelyn | Hicks, Robert | |
| Carlisle, John (Luton West) | Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. | Newton Tony |
| Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) | Hogg, Hon Douglas (Grantham) | Oppenheim, Rt Hon Mrs Sally |
| Carlisle, Rt Hon Mark (Runcorn) | Hooson, Tom | Page John (Harrow, West) |
| Chalker, Mrs Lynda | Hordern, Peter | |
| Page, Rt Hon Sir R. Graham | ||
| Channon, Paul | Howell, Rt Hon David (Guildford) | Page, Richard (SW Hertfordshire) |
| Chapman, Sydney | Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) | Parkinson, Cecil |
| Churchill, W. S. | Hunt, David (Wirral) | Parris, Matthew |
| Clark, Hon Alan (Plymouth, Sutton) | Hunt, John (Ravensbourne) | Patten, Christopher (Bath) |
| Clark, Sir William (Croydon South) | Irving, Charles (Cheltenham) | Patten, John (Oxford) |
| Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) | Johnson Smith, Geoffrey | Pattie, Geoffrey |
| Clegg, Sir Walter | Jopling, Rt Hon Michael | Pawsey, James |
| Colvin, Michael | Kaberry, Sir Donald | Penhaligon, David |
| Cope, John | Kershaw, Anthony | |
| Corrie, John | King, Rt Hon Tom | Percival, Sir Ian |
| Costain, A. P. | Kitson, Sir Timothy | Pollock, Alexander |
| Critchley, Julian | Knight, Mrs Jill | Porter, George |
| Crouch, David | Knox, David | Powell, Rt Hon J. Enoch (S Down) |
| Dickens, Geoffrey | Lamont, Norman | Price, David (Eastleigh) |
| Dorrell, Stephen | Lang, Ian | Prior, Rt Hon James |
| Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James | Langford-Holt, Sir John | Proctor, K. Harvey |
| Dover, Denshore | Latham, Michael | Raison, Timothy |
| du Cann, Rt Hon Edward | Lawrence, Ivan | Rathbone, Tim |
| Dunn, Robert (Dartlord) | Lawson, Nigel | Rees, Peter (Dover and Deal) |
| Durant, Tony | Lee, John | Renton, Tim |
| Eden, Rt Hon Sir John | Le Marchant, Spencer | Rhodes James, Robert |
| Edwards, Rt Hon N. (Pembroke) | Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark | Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon |
| Eggar, Timothy | Lester, Jim (Beeston) | Ridley, Hon Nicholas |
| Elliott, Sir William | Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) | Ridsdale, Julian |
| Emery, Peter | Lloyd, Ian (Havant & Waterloo) | Rifkind, Malcolm |
| Fairbairn, Nicholas | Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) | Roberts, Michael (Cardiff NW) |
| Fairgrieve, Russell | Loveridge, John | Roberts, Wyn (Conway) |
| Faith, Mrs Sheila | Luce, Richard | Ross, Wm. (Londonderry) |
| Rossi, Hugh | Stewart, Ian (Hitchin) | Waldegrave, Hon William |
| Ron, Peter | Stewart, John (East Renfrewshire) | Walker, Bill (Perth & E Perthshire) |
| Salisbury, Hon Timothy | Stokes, John | Waller, Gary |
| St. John-Stevas, Rt Hon Norman | Stradling Thomas, J. | Walters, Dennis |
| Scott, Nicholas | Tapsell, Peter | Ward, John |
| Shaw, Michael (Scarborough) | Tebbit, Norman | Watson, John |
| Sheiton. William (Streatham) | Temple-Morris, Peter | Wells, John (Maidstone) |
| Shepherd, Colin (Hereford) | Thatcher, Rt Hon Mrs Margaret | Wells, Bowen (Hert'rd & Stev'nage) |
| Shepherd, Richard (Aldridge-Br-hills) | Thomas, Rt Hon Peter (Hendon S) | Wheeler, John |
| Shersby, Michael | Thompson, Donald | Whitney, Raymond |
| Silvester, Fred | Thorne, Nell (Ilford South) | Wiggin, Jerry |
| Sheet, T. H. H. | Thornton, Malcolm | Wilkinson, John |
| Speller Tony | Townend, John (Bridlington) | Williams, Delwyn (Montgomery) |
| Spence, John | Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexleyheath) | Winterton, Nicholas |
| Spicer, Michael (S Worcestershire) | Trippler, David | Wolfson, Mark |
| Sproat, Iain | Trotter, Neville | Young, Sir George (Acton) |
| Squire, Robin | Taylor, Teddy (Southend East) | Younger, Rt Hon George |
| Stainton, Keith | van Straubenzee, W. R. | |
| Stanbrook, Ivor | Vaughan, Dr Gerard | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Stanley, John | Viggers, Peter | Mr. David Waddington and |
| Steen, Anthony | Wakeham, John | Mr. Anthony Berry. |
| Stevens, Martin | ||
| NOES | ||
| Abse, Leo | Ewing, Harry | Magee, Bryan |
| Adams, Allen | Field, Frank | Marks, Kenneth |
| Allaun, Frank | Flannery, Martin | Marshall, David (Gl'sgow.Shettles'n) |
| Anderson, Donald | Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole) |
| Archer, Rt Hon Peler | Foot, Rt Hon Michael | Marshall, Jim (Leicester South) |
| Armstrong, Rt Hon Ernest | Ford, Ben | Martin, Michael (Gl'gow, Springb'rn) |
| Ashley, Rt Hon Jack | Forrester, John | Maxton, John |
| Atkinson, Norman (H'gey, Tott'ham) | Foster, Derek | Maynard, Miss Joan |
| Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) | Foulkes, George | Meacher, Michael |
| Barnett, Rt Hon Joel (Heywood) | Fraser, John (Lambeth, Norwood) | Mellish, Rt Hon Robert |
| Benn, Rt Hon Anthony Wedgwood | Garrett, John (Norwich S) | Mikardo, Ian |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend) | Millan, Rt Hon Bruce |
| Booth, Rt Hon Albert | George, Bruce | Miller, Dr M. S. (East Kilbride) |
| Boothroyd, Miss Betty | Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John | Mitchell, Austin (Grimsby) |
| Bradley, Tom | Golding, John | Mitchell, R. C. (Soton, lichen) |
| Bray, Dr Jeremy | Graham, Ted | Morris, Rt Hon Alfred (Wythenshawe) |
| Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) | Grant, George (Morpeth) | Morris, Rt Hon Charles (Openshaw) |
| Brown, Ronald W. (Hackney S) | Grant, John (Islington C) | Morris, Rt Hon John (Aberavon) |
| Brown, Ron(Edinburgh, Leith) | Hamilton, James (Bothwell) | Moyle, Rt Hon Roland |
| Buchan, Norman | Hamilton, W. W. (Central Fife) | Newens, Stanley |
| Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P) | Harrison, Rt Hon Walter | Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon |
| Campbell, Ian | Haynes, Frank | O'Neill, Martin |
| Campbell-Savours, Dale | Heffer, Eric S. | Orme, Rt Hon Stanley |
| Carmlchael, Nell | Hogg, Norman (E Dunbartonshire) | Owen, Rt Hon Dr David |
| Cartwright, John | Holland, Stuart (L'beth, Vauxhall) | Palmer, Arthur |
| Clark, Dr David (South Shields) | Home Robertson, John | Park, George |
| Cocks, Rt Hon Michael (Bristol S) | Homewood, William | Pavitt, Laurie |
| Cohen, Stanley | Hooley, Frank | Pendry, Tom |
| Coleman, Donald | Horam, John | Powell, Raymond (Ogmore) |
| Concannon, Rt Hon J. D. | Huckfield, Lea | Prescott, John |
| Conlan, Bernard | Hudson Davies Gwllym Ednyfed | Race, Reg |
| Cowans, Harry | Hughes, Mark (Durham) | Radice, Giles |
| Crowther, J. S. | Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen North) | Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds South) |
| Cryer, Bob | Hughes, Roy (Newport) | Richardson, Jo |
| Cunliffe, Lawrence | Janner, Hon Greville | Roberts, Ernest (Hackney North) |
| Cunningham, George (Islington S) | John, Brynmor | Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) |
| Cunningham, Dr John (Whitehaven) | Johnson, James (Hull West) | Robertson, George |
| Dalyell, Tarn | Johnson, Walter (Derby South) | Robinson, Geoffrey (Coventry NW) |
| Davidson, Arthur | Jones, Rt Hon Alec (Rhondda) | Rodgers, Rt Hon William |
| Davles, Rt Hon Denzil (Llanelli) | Jones, Dan (Burnley) | Rooker, J. W. |
| Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald | Rowlands, Ted |
| Davis, Clinton (Hackney Central) | Kerr, Russell | Sandelson, Neville |
| Davis, Terry (B'rm'ham, Stechford) | Kilroy-Silk, Robert | Sever, John |
| Deakins, Eric | Lambie, David | Sheerman, Barry |
| Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) | Lamborn, Harry | Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert (A'ton-u-L) |
| Dempsey, James | Leadbitter, Ted | Shore, Ft; Hon Peter (Step and Pop) |
| Dewar, Donald | Leighton, Ronald | Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford) |
| Dixon, Donald | Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough) | Silkin. Rt Hon S.C. (Dulwich) |
| Dobson, Frank | Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Silverman, Julius |
| Douglas, Dick | Litherland, Robert | Snape, Peter |
| Douglas-Mann, Bruce | Lofthouse, Geoffrey | Soley, Clive |
| Dubs, Alfred | Lyon, Alexander (York) | Spearing, Nigel |
| Dunnett, Jack | Lyons, Edward (Bradford West) | Sprlggs, Leslie |
| Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth | McGuire, Michael (Ince) | Stallard, A. W. |
| Eadie, Alex | McKay, Allen (Penistone) | Stoddart, David |
| Eastham, Ken | McKelvey, William | Stott, Roger |
| Ellis, Raymond (NE Derbyshire) | MacKenzie, Rt Hon Gregor | Strang, Gavin |
| Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) | Maclennan, Robert | Straw, Jack |
| Evans, loan (Aberdare) | McMillan, Tom (Glasgow, Central) | Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley |
| Evan]), John (Newton) | McNally, Thomas | Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton West) |
| Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) | Weetch, Ken | Wilson, Rt Hon Sir Harold (Huyton) |
| Thomas, Mike (Newcastle East) | Wellbeloved, James | Wilson, William (Coventry SE) |
| Thomas. Dr Roger (Carmarthen) | Walsh, Michael | Winnick, David |
| Thorne, Stan (Preston South) | White, Frank R. (Bury & Radcliffe) | Woolmer, Kenneth |
| Tilley, John | White, James (Glasgow, Pollok) | Wright, Sheila |
| Tinn, James | Whitehead, Phillip | Young, David (Bolton East) |
| Torney, Tom | Whitlock, William | |
| Urwin, Rt Hon Tom | Willey, Rt Hon Frederick | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
| Varley, Rt Hon Eric G. | Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W) | Mr. George Morton and |
| Walker, Rt Hon Harold (Doncaster) | Williams, Sir Thomas (Warrington) | Mr. Hugh McCartney. |
| Watkins, David |
§ Question accordingly agreed to.
1368§ Bill read the Third Time and passed.