HC Deb 11 June 1980 vol 986 cc672-80
Mr. Rifkind

I beg to move amendment No. 73, in page 9, line 45, after ' loan ', insert 'of an amount not exceeding the price fixed under 1(4) of this Act'. This amendment limits the rights of a tenant exercising the right to buy to apply for a mortgage from the housing authority by providing that he may not apply for a loan for a greater sum than the selling price of that house. This is a sensible amendment which clarifies the position.

Amendment agreed to.

Amendment made : No. 234, in page 10, line 3, after ' landlord ' insert ' or other body'.—[Mr. Rifkind.]

Amendment proposed : No. 74, in page 10, line 19, after 'applicant' insert— '(iv) such other information as may be prescribed to allow the landlord or other

body to consider whether the applicant is a suitable person to receive a loan under this section'.—[Mr. Millan.]

Question put, That the amendment be made :—

The House divided : Ayes 207, Noes 270.

Division No. 358] AYES [8.35 pm
Abse, Leo Ford, Ben Oakes, Rt Hon Gordon
Adams, Allen Forrester, John Ogden, Eric
Anderson, Donald Foster, Derek O'Halloran, Michael
Archer, Rt Hon Peter Foulkes, George O'Neill, Martin
Armstrong, Rt Hon Ernest Fraser, John (Lambeth, Norwood) Orme, Rt Hon Stanley
Ashley, Rt Hon Jack Freeson, Rt Hon Reginald Owen, Rt Hon Dr David
Atkinson, Norman (H'gey, Tott'ham) Garrett, John (Norwich S) Palmer, Arthur
Bagier, Gordon A. T. George, Bruce Park, George
Barnett, Rt Hon Joel (Haywood) Gilbert, Rt Hon Dr John Parker, John
Benn, Rt Hon Anthony Wedgwood Ginsburg, David Parry, Robert
Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) Graham, Ted Pavitt, Laurie
Bidwell, Sydney Grant, George (Morpeth) Pendry, Tom
Booth, Rt Hon Albert Grant, John (Islington C) Powell, Raymond (Ogmore)
Boothroyd, Miss Betty Hamilton, W. W. (Central Fife) Prescott, John
Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur (M'brough) Hardy, Peter Race, Reg
Bradley, Tom Harrison, Rt Hon Walter Radice, Giles
Bray, Dr Jeremy Hattersiey, Rt Hon Roy Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds South)
Brown, Hugh D. (Provan) Haynes, Frank Richardson, Jo
Brown, Ron (Edinburgh, Leith) Healey, Rt Hon Denis Roberts, Albert (Normanton)
Buchan, Norman Heffer, Eric S. Roberts, Ernest (Hackney North)
Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P) Hogg, Norman (E Dunbartonshire) Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock)
Campbell, Ian Holland, Stuart (L'beth, Vauxhall) Robertson, George
Campbell-Savours, Dale Home Robertson, John Rodgers, Rt Hon William
Cant, R. B. Homewood, William Rooker, J. W.
Carter-Jones, Lewis Hooley, Frank Rose, Ernest (Dundee West)
Cartwright, John Horam, John Sandelson, Neville
Clark, Dr David (South Shields) Howell, Rt Hon Denis (B'ham, Sm H) Sever, John
Cocks, Rt Hon Michael (Bristol S) Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen North) Sheerman, Barry
Cohen, Stanley Hughes, Roy (Newport) Sheldon, Rt Hon Robert (A'ton-u-L)
Concannon, Rt Hon J. D. Janner, Hon Greville Short, Mrs Renée
Conlan, Bernard Jay, Rt Hon Douglas Silkin, Rt Hon John (Deptford)
Cook, Robin F. John, Brynmor Silkin, Rt Hon S. C. (Dulwich)
Cowans, Harry Johnson, James (Hull West) Silverman, Julius
Cox, Tom (Wandsworth, Tooting) Jones, Rt Hon Alec (Rhondda) Skinner, Dennis
Crowther, J. S. Jones, Barry (East Flint) Smith, Rt Hon J. (North Lanarkshire)
Cryer, Bob Jones, Dan (Burnley) Snape, Peter
Cunliffe, Lawrence Kaufman, Rt Hon Gerald Soley, Clive
Cunningham, George (Islington S) Kerr, Russell Spearing, Nigel
Cunningham, Dr John (Whitehaven) Kilroy-Silk, Robert Spriggs, Leslie
Dalyell, Tam Kinnock, Neil Stewart, Rt Hon Donald (W Isles)
Davidson, Arthur Lambie, David Strang, Gavin
Davies, Ifor (Gower) Lamborn, Harry Straw, Jack
Davis, Clinton, (Hackney Central) Leadbitter, Ted Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley
Davis, Terry (B'rm'ham, Stechford) Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton West)
Deakins, Eric Lofthouse, Geoffrey Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery)
Dean, Joseph (Leeds West) Lyon, Alexander (York) Thomas, Mike (Newcastle East)
Dempsey, James Lyons, Edward (Bradford West) Thomas, Dr Roger (Carmarthen)
Dewar, Donald Mabon, Rt Hon Dr J. Dickson Thorne, Stan (Preston South)
Dixon, Donald McCartney, Hugh Tilley, John
Dobson, Frank McDonald, Dr Oonagh Tinn, James
Dormand, Jack McKay, Allen (Penistone) Watkins, David
Douglas, Dick McKelvey, William Weetch, Ken
Douglas-Mann, Bruce Maclenrtan, Robert Wellbeloved, James
Dubs, Alfred Magee, Bryan Welsh, Michael
Duffy, A. E. P. Marks, Kenneth White, Frank R.(Bury a Radclitfe)
Dunn, James A. (Liverpool, Kirkdale) Marshall, Jim (Leicester South) White, James (Glasgow, Pollok)
Dunnett, Jack Masons Rt Hon Roy Whitlock, William
Dunwoody, Mrs Gwyneth Maxton, John Willey, Rt Hon Frederick
Eastham, Ken Meacher, Michael Williams, Rt Hon Alan (Swansea W)
Ellis, Raymond (NE Derbyshire) Mellish, Rt Hon Robert Wilson, Gordon (Dundee East)
Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) Millan, Rt Hon Bruce Wilson, William (Coventry SE)
English, Michael Miller, Dr M S (East Kilbride) Winnick, David
Ennals, Rt Hon David Mitchell, Austin (Grimsby) Woodall, Alec
Evans, loan (Aberdare) Mitchell, R. C. (Solon, Itchen) Woolmer, Kenneth
Ewing, Harry Morris, Rt Hon Alfred (Wythenshawe) Wright, Shella
Field, Frank Morris, Rt Hon Chartes (Openshaw) Young, David (Bolton East)
Fitch, Alan Morris, Rt Hon John (Aberavon)
Fitt, Gerard Morton, George TELLERS FOR THE AYES :
Flannery, Martin Moyle, Rt Hon Roland Mr. Donald Coleman and
Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) Newens, Stanley Mr. James Hamilton.
Foot, Rt Hon Michael
NOES
Adley, Robert Fraser, Peter (South Angus) Mills, lain (Mariden)
Aitken, Jonathan Fry, Peter Mills, Peter (West Devon)
Alexander, Richard Gardiner, George (Reigate) Miscampbell, Norman
Alton, David Gardner, Edward (South Fylde) Mitchell, David (Basingstoke)
Amery, Rt Hon Julian Glyn, Dr Alan Moate, Roger
Ancram, Michael Goodhew, Victor Monro, Hector
Arnold, Tom Gower, Sir Raymond Montgomery, Fergus
Aspinwall, Jack Grant, Anthony (Harrow C) Moore, John
Atkins, Rt Hon H. (Spelthorne) Gray, Hamish Morris, Michael (Northampton, Sth)
Atkins, Robert (Preston North) Greenway, Harry Morrison, Hon Charles (Devizes)
Atkinson, David (B'mouth, East) Grieve, Percy Morrison, Hon Peter (City of Chester)
Baker, Kenneth (St. Marylebone) Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St Edmunds) Mudd, David
Baker, Nicholas (North Dorset) Grimond, Rt Hon J. Murphy, Christopher
Beaumont-Dark, Anthony Grist, Ian Myles, David
Beith, A. J. Grylls, Michael Neale, Gerrard
Bell, Sir Ronald Gummer, John Selwyn Needham, Richard
Bendall, Vivian Hamilton, Hon Archie (Eps'm&Ew'll) Nelson, Anthony
Benyon, Thomas (Abingdon) Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) Neubert, Michael
Benyon, W. (Buckingham) Hampson, Dr Keith Newton, Tony
Berry, Hon Anthony Hannam, John Normanton, Tom
Best, Keith Haselhurst, Alan Nott, Rt Hon John
Bevan, David Gilroy Hastings, Stephen Onslow, Cranley
Biggs-Davison, John Havers, Rt Hon Sir Michael Oppenheim, Rt Hon Mrs Sally
Blackburn, John Hawksley, Warren Page, John (Harrow, West)
Blaker, Peter Hayhoe, Barney Page, Rt Hon Sir R. Graham
Bonsor, Sir Nicholas Heddle, John Page, Richard (SW Hertfordshire)
Bottomley, Peter (Woolwich West) Henderson, Barry Parkinson, Cecil
Bowden, Andrew Higgins, Rt Hon Terence L. Parris, Matthew
Braine, Sir Bernard Hogg, Hon Douglas (Grantham) Patten, Christopher (Bath)
Bright, Graham Holland, Philip (Carlton) Patten, John (Oxford)
Brinton, Tim Hooson, Tom Partie, Geoffrey
Britan, Leon Hordern, Peter Pawsey, James
Brooke, Hon Peter Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Pollock, Alexander
Brown, Michael (Brigg & Sc'thorpe) Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) Porter, George
Bruce-Gardyne, John Howells, Geraint Prentice, Rt Hon Reg
Bryan, Sir Paul Hunt, John (Ravensbourne) Price, David (Eastleigh)
Buchanan-Smith, Hon Alick Irving, Charles (Cheltenham) Proctor, K. Harvey
Buck, Antony Jenkin, Rt Hon Patrick Pym, Rt Hon Francis
Budgen, Nick Jessel, Toby Ralson, Timothy
Bulmer, Esmond Johnson Smith, Geoffrey Rathbone, Tim
Burden, F. A. Johnston, Russell (Inverness) Rees-Davies, W. R.
Butcher, John Jopling, Rt Hon Michael Rerrton, Tim
Butler, Hon Adam Kilfedder, James A. Rhodes James, Robert
Cadbury, Jocelyn Kimball, Marcus Ridley, Hon Nicholas
Carlisle, John (Luton West) King, Rt Hon Tom Ridsdale, Julian
Carlisle, Kenneth (Lincoln) Kitson, Sir Timothy Rifkind, Malcolm
Carlisle, Rt Hon Mark (Runcorn) Knox, David Roberts, Michael (Cardiff NW)
Chalker, Mrs. Lynda Lamont, Norman Robinson, Peter (Belfast East)
Channon, Paul Lang, Ian Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight)
Chapman, Sydney Langford-Holt, Sir John Rossi, Hugh
Clark, Hon Alan (Plymouth, Sutton) Lawrence, Ivan Sainsbury, Hon Timothy
Clark, Sir William (Croydon South) Lawson, Nigel Scott, Nicholas
Clarke, Kenneth (Rushclifle) Lee, John Shaw, Giles (Pudsey)
Clegg, Sir Walter Le Marchant, Spencer Shaw, Michael (Scarborough)
Cockeram, Eric Lennox-Boyd, Hon Mark Shelton, William (Streatham)
Colvin, Michael Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) Shepherd, Colin (Hereford)
Cope, John Lloyd, Peter (Fareham) Shepherd, Richard (Aldrldge-Br'hills)
Cormack, Patrick Loveridge, John Silvester Fred
Corrie, John Lyell, Nicholas Sims, Roger
Costain, A. P. McCrindle, Robert Skeet, T. H. H.
Cranborne, Viscount Macfarlane, Neil Smith, Dudley (War, and Leam'ton)
Dean, Paul (North Somerset) MacGregor, John Speller, Tony
Dickens, Geoffrey MacKay, John (Argyll) Spicer, Michael (S Worcestershire)
Dorrell, Stephen Macmillan, Rt Hon M. (Farnham) Squire, Robin
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James McNair-Wilson, Michael (Newbury) Stanbrook, Ivor
Dunn, Robert (Dartford) McNair-Wilson, Patrick (New Forest) Stanley, John
Durant, Tony McQuade, John Steel, Rt Hon David
Dykes, Hugh McQuarrie, Albert Steen, Anthony
Eden, Rt Hon Sir John Madel, David Stevens, Martin
Eggar, Timothy Major, John Stewart, Ian (Hitchin)
Emery, Peter Marland, Paul Stewart, John (East Renfrewshire)
Eyre, Reginald Marlow, Tony Stradling Thomas, J.
Fairbairn, Nicholas Marshall, Michael (Arundel) Tapsell, Peter
Fairgrleve, Russell Marten, Neil (Banbury) Taylor, Teddy (Southend East)
Faith, Mrs Shella Mates, Michael Tebbit, Norman
Fair, John Mather, Carol Temple-Morris, Peter
Fenner, Mrs Peggy Maude, Rt Hon Angus Thomas, Rt Hon Peter (Hendon S)
Finsberg, Geoffrey Mawby, Ray Thompson, Donald
Fisher, Sir Nigel Mawhinney, Dr Brian Thorne, Neil (Ilford South)
Fletcher, Alexander (Edinburgh N) Maxwell-Hysiop, Robin Thornton, Malcolm
Fletcher-Cooke, Charles Mellor, David Townsend, Cyril D. (Bexleyheath)
Fookes, Miss Janet Meyer, Sir Anthony Trippier, David
Fraser, Rt Hon H. (Stafford & St) Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove & Redditch) Trotter, Neville
Vaughan, Dr Gerard Ward, John Williams, Delwyn (Montgomery)
Viggers, Peter Warren, Kenneth Wolfson, Mark
Waldegrave, Hon William Wells, John (Maidstone) Young, Sir George (Acton)
Walker, Rt Hon Peter (Worcester) Wells, Bowen (Hert'rd & Stev'nage) Younger, Rt Hon George
Walker, Bill (Perth & E Perthshire) Whitelaw, Rt Hon William
Walker-Smith, Rt Hon Sir Derek Whitney, Raymond TELLERS FOR THE NOES :
Wall, Patrick Wickenden, Keith Mr. Robert Boscawen and
Waller, Gary Wilkinson, John Mr. Darid Waddington.
Walters, Dennis

Question accordingly negatived.

Amendments made : No. 76, in page 10, line 29, after ' inquiry ', insert— '(which shall include reasonable opportunity for the applicant to amend his application)'.

No. 77, in page 10, line 30, leave out from ' correct ' to the end of line 35.—[Mr. Rifkind.]

8.45 pm
Mr. Millan

I beg to move amendment No. 80, in page 10, line 39, at end add— '(3A) An order made under subsection (3) above shall not come into effect unless a draft thereof has been laid before Parliament and approved by a resolution of each House of Parliament.'.

Mr. Deputy Speaker

With this, we may take Government amendment No. 86.

Mr. Millan

The effect of the amendment would be to provide that the orders to be made under clause 5 (3) would be made by statutory instrument. I understand that the Government have accepted that proposition and that their amendment No. 86 relates to the statutory instruments that will be made under subsections (3) and (6).

Mr. Rifkind

In order to save having to make a formal speech, perhaps I could point out now that the only difference between the right hon. Gentleman's amendment and the Government amendment is that we propose that the negative procedure should be used, whereas the right hon. Gentleman proposes that the affirmative procedure should apply. Otherwise, our proposals are similar.

Mr. Millan

I shall not look a gift horse in the mouth. At least the Government amendment provides for a parliamentary procedure, which is what I am interested in. In the light of the Minister's intervention, I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Amendment made: No. 81, in page 10, line 44, leave out from ' that ' to end of line 45 and insert 'information contained in the loan application is incorrect in a material respect.'.—[Mr. Rifkind.]

Mr. Rifkind

I beg to move amendment No. 85, in page 11, line 22, leave out from ' loan ' to end of line 24 and insert 'in accordance with subsections (3) and (6) above'. This is a drafting amendment which does not affect the policy in the Bill.

Amendment agreed to.

Amendment made: No. 86, in page 11, line 29, at end add— '(9) A statutory instrument made under subsection (3) and (6) above shall be subject to annulment in pursuance of a resolution of either House of Parliament.'.—[Mr. Rifkind.]

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