HC Deb 17 December 1974 vol 883 cc1489-98

Question again proposed.

10.1 p.m.

Mr. John Wells (Maidstone)

I deplore the conduct of the Financial Secretary in seeking to shut me up earlier in an arrogant and impertinent manner. Furthermore I deplore the hon. Gentleman's cheap remarks about pages of the Daily Telegraph on the larder shelves of my right hon. Friend the Member for Finchley (Mrs. Thatcher). The hon. Gentleman shows himself up to be a remarkably cheap, smirkish and poor little operator. He referred to my absence at certain earlier stages of the debate. I apologise to the House for my absence at an earlier stage, but I am present now and I am entitled to make my contribution.

The hon. Gentleman said that the agricultural provisions—

Mr. Russell Kerr (Feltham and Heston)

On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. Is not the hon. Member for Maidstone (Mr. Wells) abusing the processes of the House?

Mr. Speaker

Order. This is exempted business.

Mr. Wells

The Financial Secretary said that the agricultural provisions had been dealt with. The more he does me the courtesy of attending to what I am saying now, the shorter my speech will be. But the longer he goes on nattering below his breath to his hon. Friend the Chief Secretary, the longer I shall continue. Therefore, I suggest that if the two junior Ministers would do me the courtesy of attending, the quicker I shall be and the sooner they will get home to their beds; but until they do me that common courtesy I shall go on.

What I and the farming community want to know is what are the Government's intentions about the entire farming problem which is created by the Bill. The particular point I sought to raise, which the hon. Gentleman failed to answer, concerned the position of a bona fide working farmer who happens to be a director of a farming company and whose farm happens to be belong to a farming company. If the hon. Gentleman would be kind enough to look at page 96 of the Bill, lines 27 and 28, he would see that it deals with the man only and not with his company.

What the farming community wish to know is whether the Government will do anything to maintain food production, because all the clauses dealing with agriculture are a penalty to the farming community, even to the small farmer, and are causes of great anxiety. I believe that hon. Members on the Government side of the House—even if the Chancellor yawns until he goes to sleep —must realise that the food that fills the Chancellor's fat stomach will be very scarce next year unless the Government change their entire attitude to the agricultural community.

Question put, That the amendment be made: —

The House divided: Ayes 269, Noes 312.

Division No. 38.] AYES [10.4 p.m.
Adley, Robert Banks, Robert Biffen, John
Aitken, J. W. P. Beith, A, J. Biggs-Davison, John
Alison, Michael Bell, Ronald Blaker, Peter
Amery, Rt Hon Julian Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torbay) Body, Richard
Atkins, Rt Hon H. (Spelthorne) Bennett, Dr Reginald (Fareham) Boscawen, Hon Robert
Awdry, Daniel Benyon, W. R. Boyson, Dr Rhodes (Brent)
Baker, Kenneth Berry, Hon Anthony Braine, Sir Bernard
Brittan, Leon Holland, Philip Percival, Ian
Brotherton, Michael Hooson, Emlyn Peyton, Rt Hon John
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) Hordern, Peter Pink, R. Bonner
Bryan, Sir Paul Howe, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Price, David (Eastleigh)
Buchanan-Smith, Alick Howell, David (Guildford) Prior, Rt Hon James
Buck, Antony Howell, Ralph (North Norfolk) Pym, Rt Hon Francis
Budgen, Nick Howells, Geraint (Cardigan) Raison, Timothy
Bulmer, Esmond Hunt, John Rathbone, Tim
Burden, F. A. Hurd, Douglas Rawlinson, Rt Hon Sir Peter
Carlisle, Mark Hutchison, Michael Clark Rees, Peter (Dover & Deal)
Carr, Rt Hon Robert Irving, Charles (Cheltenham) Rees-Davies, W. R.
Chalker, Mrs Lynda James, David Renton, Rt Hn Sir D. (Hunts.)
Channon, Paul Jenkin, Rt Hon Patrick (Redbr.) Renton, Tim (Mid-Sussex)
Churchill, W. S. Jessel, Toby Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon
Clark, Alan (Plymouth, S) Johnson Smith, G. (E. Grinstead) Ridley, Hon Nicholas
Clark, William (Croydon, S.) Jones, Arthur (Daventry) Ridsdale, Julian
Clarke, Kenneth (Rushcliffe) Jopling, Michael Rifkind, Malcolm
Cockcroft, John Kaberry, Sir Donald Rippon, Rt Hon Geoffrey
Cooke, Robert (Bristol W) Kellett-Bowman, Mrs Elaine Roberts, Michael (Cardiff N.W.)
Cope, John Kershaw, Anthony Roberts, Wyn (Conway)
Cordle, John H. Kilfedder, James Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight)
Cormack, Patrick Kimball, Marcus Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey)
Corrie, John King, Evelyn (South Dorset) Rost, Peter (SE Derbyshire)
Costain, A. P. King, Tom (Bridgwater) Royle, Sir Anthony
Critchley, Julian Kirk, Peter St. John-Stevas, Norman
Crouch, David Kitson, Sir Timothy Scott, Nicholas
Crowder, F. P. Knight, Mrs Jill Scott-Hopkins, James
Davies, Rt Hon J. (Knutsford) Knox, David Shaw, Giles (Pudsey)
Dodsworth, Geoffrey Lamont, Norman Shaw, Michael (Scarborough)
Douglas-Hamilton, Lord James Lane, David Shelton, William (Lambeth St.)
du Cann, Rt Hon Edward Langford-Holt, Sir John Shepherd, Colin
Durant, Tony Latham, Michael (Melton) Shersby, Michael
Dykes, Hugh Lawrence, Ivan Silvester, Fred
Eden, Rt Hon Sir John Lawson, Nigel Sims, Roger
Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) Le Marchant, Spencer Sinclair, Sir George
Elliott, Sir William Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) Skeet, T. H. H.
Emery, Peter Lloyd, Ian (Havant) Smith, Cyril (Rochdale)
Eyre, Reginald Loveridge, John Smith, Dudley (Warwick)
Fairbairn, Nicholas Luce, Richard Speed, Keith
Fairgrieve, Russell McCrindle, Robert Spence, John
Farr, John Macfarlane, Neil Spicer, James (W. Dorset)
Fell, Anthony MacGregor, John Spicer, Michael (S. Worcester)
Finsberg, Geoffrey Macmillan, Rt Hon M. (Farnham) Sproat, lain
Fisher, Sir Nigel McNair-Wilson, M. (Newbury) Stainton, Keith
Fletcher, Alex (Edinburgh N.) McNair-Wilson, P. (New Forest) Stanbrook, Ivor
Fletcher-Cooke, Charles Madel, David Stanley, John
Fookes, Miss Janet Marshall, Michael (Arundel) Steel, David (Roxburgh)
Fowler, Norman (Sutton C.) Marten, Neil Steen, Anthony (Liverpool)
Fox, Marcus Mates, Michael Stewart, Ian (Hitchin)
Fraser, Rt Hon H. (Stafford & St.) Mather, Carol Stokes, John
Freud, Clement Maude, Angus Tapsell, Peter
Fry, Peter Maudling, Rt Hon Reginald Taylor, R (Croydon NW)
Galbraith, Hon T. G. D. Mawby, Ray Taylor, Teddy (Glasgow C.)
Gardiner, George (Reigate) Maxwell-Hyslop Robin Tebbit, Norman
Gardner, Edward (S. Fylde) Mayhew, Patrick Temple-Morris, P.
Gilmour, Rt Hon Ian (Chesham) Meyer, Sir Anthony Thatcher, Rt Hon M.
Gilmour, Sir John (East Fife) Miller, Hal (Bromsgrove) Thomas, Rt Hon P. (Barnet)
Glyn, Dr Alan Mills, Peter Thorpe, Rt Hon Jeremy (Devon)
Godber, Rt Hon Joseph Miscampbell, Norman Townsend, Cvril D
Goodhart, Philip Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) Trotter, Neville
Goodhew, Victor Moate, Roger Tugendhat, Christopher
Goodlad, A. Monro, Hector van Straubenzee, W.R.
Gorst, John Montgomery, Fergus Vaughan, Dr Gerard
Gow, I. (Eastbourne) Moore, John (Croydon C) Viggers, P.J.
Gower, Sir Raymond (Barry) More, Jasper (Ludlow) Wainwright, Richard (Colne V)
Grant, Anthony (Harrow C.) Morgan, Geraint Wakeham, John
Gray, Hamish Morgan-Giles, Rear-Admiral Walder, David (Cliltheroe)
Grieve, Percy Morris, Michael (Northants) Walker, Rt Hon P. (Worcester)
Griffiths, Eldon Morrison, Charles (Devizes) Wall, Patrick
Grimond, Rt Hon J. Morrison, Peter (Chester) Walters, Dennis
Grist, Ian Mudd, David Walters, Dennis
Grylls, Michael Neave, Airey Weatherill, Dernard
Hall-Davis, A. G. F. Nelson, Anthony Wells, John
Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) Neubert, Michael Whitelaw, Rt Hon William
Hampson, Dr Keith Newton, Tony Wiggin, Jerry (Weston-s-Mare)
Hannam, John Normanton, Tom Winterton, Nicholas
Harrison, Sir Harwood (Eye) Nott, John Wood, Rt Hon Rochard
Harvie Anderson, Rt Hon Miss Onslow, Cranley Young, Sir George (Ealling)
Hastings, Stephen Oppenheim, Mrs Sally Younger, Hon George
Havers, Sir Michael Osborn, John
Hawkins, Paul Page, John (Harrow West)
Hayhoe, Barney Pardoe, John TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Heath, Rt Hon Edward Pattle, Geoffrey Mr. Adam Butler and
Hicks, Robert Penhaligon, David Mr. John Stradling Thomas.
Higgins, Terence L.
NOES
Abse, Leo Eadie, Alex Lewis, Arthur (Newham N.)
Allaun, Frank Edelman, Maurice Lewis, Ron (Carlisle)
Anderson, Donald Edge, Geoffrey Lipton, Marcus
Archer, Peter Edwards, Robert (Wolv, S.E.) Litterick, Tom
Armstrong, Ernest Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) Lomas, Kenneth
Ashley, Jack English, Michael Loyden, Eddie
Ashton, Joe Ennals, David Luard, Evan
Atkins, Ronald (Preston N) Evans, loan L. (Aberdare) Lyon, Alexander (York)
Atkinson, Norman Evans, John (Newton) Lyons, Edward (Bradford W)
Bagier, Gordon A. T. Ewing, Harry (Stirling) Mabon, Dr J. Dickson
Bain, Mrs Margaret Ewing, Mrs Winifred (Moray) McCartney, Hugh
Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) Faulds, Andrew MacCormick, lain
Barnett, Joel (Heywood) Fernyhough, Rt Hon E. McCusker, Harold
Bates, Alf Fitch, Alan (Wigan) McElhone, Frank
Bean, Robert E. Flannery, Martin MacFarquhar, R.
Benn, Rt Hn Anthony Wedgwood Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) McGuire, Michael (Ince)
Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) Mackenzie, Gregor
Bidwell, Sydney Foot, Rt Hon Michael Mackintosh, John P.
Bishop, Edward Ford, Ben T. Maclennan, Robert
Blenkinsop, Arthur Forrester, John McMillan, Tom (Glasgow C.)
Boardman, H. Fowler, Gerald (The Wrekin) McNamara, Kevin
Booth, Albert Freeson, Reginald Madden, Max
Boothroyd, Miss Selly Garrett, John (Norwich S.) Magee, Bryan
Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend) Mahon, Simon
Boyden, James (Bish Auck.) George, Bruce Mallalieu, J. P. W.
Bradford, Rev Robert Gilbert, Dr John Marks, Ken
Bradley, Tom Ginsburg, David Marquand, David
Bray, Dr Jeremy Golding, John Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole)
Broughton, Sir Alfred Gould, Bryan Marshall, Jim (Leicester)
Brown, Hugh D. (Glasgow Pr.) Gourlay, Harry Mason, Rt Hon Roy
Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle) Graham, Ted Maynard, Miss Joan
Brown, Ronald (Hackney S.) Grant, George (Morpeth) Meacher, Michael
Buchan, Norman Grant, John (Islington C.) Mellish, Rt Hon Robert
Buchanan, Richard Grocott, Bruce Mikardo, Ian
Butler, Mrs Joyce (Haringey) Hamilton, James (Bothwell) Millan, Bruce
Callaghan, Rt Hon J. (Cardiff S.) Hamilton, W. W. (Central Fife) Miller, Dr M. (E. Kilbride)
Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P.) Hamling, William Miller, Mrs Millie (Redbridge)
Campbell, Ian Hardy, Peter Mitchell, R. C. (Soton, Itchen)
Canavan, Dennis Harper, Joseph Molloy, William
Cant, R. B. Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) Molyneaux, James
Carmichael, Neil Hart, Rt Hon Judith Moonman, Eric
Carson, John Hattersley, Roy Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe)
Carter, Ray Hatton, Frank Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw)
Carter-Jones, Lewis Hayman, Mrs Helene Morris, Rt Hon John (Aberavon)
Cartwright, John Healey, Rt Hon Denis Mulley, Rt Hon Frederick
Castle, Rt Hon Barbara Heffer, Eric S. Murray, Ronald King
Clemitson, I. M. Hooley, Frank Newens, Stanley
Cocks, Michael (Bristol S.) Horam, John Oakes, Gordon
Cohen, Stanley Howell, Denis (B'ham, Sm H) Ogden, Eric
Coleman, Donald Hoyle, Douglas (Nelson) O'Halloran, Michael
Colquhoun, Mrs Maureen Huckfield, Leslie O'Malley, Brian
Concannon, J. D. Hughes, Rt Hon C. (Anglesey) Orbach, Maurice
Conlan, Bernard Hughes, Mark (Durham) Ovenden, John
Cook, Robin F. (Edin C) Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N.) Owen, Dr David
Corbett, Robin Hughes, Roy (Newport) Padley, Walter
Cox, Thomas (Wands, Toot) Hunter, Adam Paisley, Rev Ian
Craig, Rt Hon W. (Belfast) Irvine, Rt Hon Sir A. (L'pool) Palmer, Arthur
Craigen, J. M. (Glasgow M.) Irving, Rt Hon S. (Dartford) Park, George
Crawford, Douglas Jackson, Colin (Brighouse) Parker, John
Cronin, John Jackson, Miss Margaret (Lincoln) Parry, Robert
Crosland, Rt Hon Anthony Janner, Greville Peart, Rt Hon Fred
Cryer, Bob Jay, Rt Hon Douglas Pendry, Tom
Cunningham, G. (Islington S.) Jeger, Mrs Lena Perry, Ernest
Cunningham, Dr J. (Whiteh.) Jenkins, Hugh (Wandsworth) Phipps, Dr Colin
Dalyell, Tam Jenkins, Rt Hon Roy (B'ham, St) Powell, Rt Hon J. Enoch
Davidson, Arthur John, Brynmor Prentice, Rt Hon Reg
Davies, Bryan (Enfield N.) Johnson, James (Kingston, W.) Prescott, John
Davies, Denzil (Llanelli) Johnson, Walter (Derby S) Price, William (Rugby)
Davies, Ifor (Gower) Jones, Alec (Rnondda) Radice, Giles
Davis, S. Clinton (Hackney C.) Jones, Barry (East Flint) Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds S.)
Deakins, Eric Jones, Dan (Burnley) Reid, George
de Freitas, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Judd, Frank Richardson, Miss Jo
Delargy, Hugh Kaufman, Gerald Roberts, Albert (Normanton)
Dell, Rt Hon Edmund Kerr, Russell Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock)
Dempsey, James Kilroy-Silk, Robert Robertson, John (Paisley)
Doig, Peter Kinnock, Neil Roderick, Caerwyn
Dormand, Jack Lambie, David Rodgers, George (Chorley)
Douglas-Mann, Bruce Lamborn, Harry Rodgers, William (Teesside)
Duffy, A. E. P. Lamond, James Rooker, J. W.
Dunlop, J. Leadbitter, Ted Roper, John
Dunn, James A. Lee, John Rose, Paul B.
Dunnett, Jack Leslor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough) Ross, Rt Hon W. (Kilm'nock)
Dunwoody, Mrs. Gwyneth Lever, Rt Hon Harold Ross, William (Londonderry)
Rowlands, Ted Strauss, Rt Hon G. R. Wellbeloved, James
Ryman, John Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley White, Frank R. (Bury)
Sandelson, Neville Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton W) White, James (Glasgow P)
Sedgemore, B. Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery) Whitehead, Phillip
Selby, Harry Thomas, Michael (Newcastle) Willey, Rt Hon Frederick
Shaw, Arnold (Redbridge, Ilf.) Thomas, Ron (Bristol NW) Williams, Alan (Swansea)
Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-u-Lyne) Thompson, George Williams, Alan, Lee (Haver'g)
Shore, Rt Hon Peter Thorne, Stan (Preston) Williams, Rt Hn Shirley (Hertford)
Short, Rt Hon Edward (Newcastle C) Tierney, Sydney Williams, W. T. (Warrington)
Short, Mrs Renée (Wolv NE) Tinn, James Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton)
Silkin, Rt Hn John (Lewish.) Tomlinson, John Wilson, Rt Hon H. (Huyton)
Silkin, Rt Hn S. C. (Southwk.) Torney, Tom Wilson, William (Coventry S.E.)
Sillars, James Tuck, Raphael Wise, Mrs Audrey
Silverman, Julius Urwin, T. W. Woodall, Alec
Small, William Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne V.) Woof, Robert
Snape, Peter Walden, Brian (B'ham, L'dyw'd) Wrigglesworth, Ian
Spearing, Nigel Walker, Harold (Doncaster) Young, David (Bolton E.)
Spriggs, Leslie Walker, Terry (Kingswood)
Stallard, A. W. Ward, Michael TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Stewart, Rt Hn Michael (H'smith, F) Watkins, David
Stoddart, David Watkinson, John Mr. John Ellis and
Stott, Roger Weetch, Ken Mr. Laurie Pavitt.
Strang, Gavin Weitzman, David
Question accordingly negatived.
Main Question put forthwith pursuant to Standing Order No. 39 (Amendment on second or third reading):
The House divided: Ayes 303, Noes 13.
Division No. 39.] AYES [10.18 p.m.
Abse, Leo Colquhoun, Mrs Maureen Ford, Ben T.
Allaun, Frank Concannon, J. D. Forrester, John
Anderson, Donald Conlan, Bernard Fowler, Gerald (The Wrekin)
Archer, Peter Cook, Robin F. (Edin C) Freeson, Reginald
Armstrong, Ernest Corbett, Robin Garrett, John (Norwich S.)
Ashley, Jack Cox, Thomas (Wands, Toot) Garrett, W. E. (Wallsend)
Ashton, Joe Craigen, J. M. (Glasgow M.) George, Bruce
Atkins, Ronald (Preston N) Cronin, John Gilbert, Dr John
Atkinson, Norman Crosland, Rt Hon Anthony Ginsburg, David
Bagier, Gordon A. T. Cryer, Bob Golding, John
Bain, Mrs Margaret Cunningham, G. (Islington S.) Gould, Bryan
Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) Cunningham, Dr J. (Whiteh.) Gourlay, Harry
Barnett, Joel (Heywood) Dalyell, Tam Graham, Ted
Bates, Alt Davidson, Arthur Grant, George (Morpeth)
Bean, Robert E. Davies, Bryan (Enfield N.) Grant, John (Islington C.)
Benn, Rt Hn Anthony Wedgwood Davies, Denzil (Llanelli) Grocott, Bruce
Bennett, Andrew (Stockport N) Davies, Ifor (Gower) Hamilton, James (Bothwell)
Bldwell, Sydney Davis, S. Clinton (Hackney C.) Hamilton, W. W. (Central Fife)
Bishop, Edward Deakins, Eric Hamling, William
Blenkinsop, Arthur de Freitas, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Hardy, Peter
Boardman, H. Delargy, Hugh Harper, Joseph
Booth, Albert Dell, Rt Hon Edmund Harrison, Walter (Wakefield)
Boothroyd, Miss Betty Dempsey, James Hart, Rt Hon Judith
Bottomley, Rt Hon Arthur Doig, Peter Hattersley, Roy
Boyden, James (Bish Auck.) Dormand, Jack Hatton, Frank
Bradley, Tom Douglas-Mann, Bruce Hayman, Mrs Helene
Bray, Dr Jeremy Duffy, A. E. P. Healey, Rt Hon Denis
Broughton, Sir Alfred Dunn, James A. Hetter, Eric S.
Brown, Hugh D. (Glasgow Pr.) Dunnett, Jack Hooley, Frank
Brown, Robert C. (Newcastle) Dunwoody, Mrs. Gwyneth Horam, John
Brown, Ronald (Hackney S.) Eadie, Alex Howell, Denis (B'ham, Sm H)
Buchan, Norman Edelman, Maurice Hoyle, Douglas (Nelson)
Buchanan, Richard Edge, Geoffrey Huckfield, Leslie
Butler, Mrs Joyce (Haringey) Edwards, Robert (Wolv, S.E.) Hughes, Rt Hon C. (Anglesey)
Callaghan, Rt Hon J. (Cardiff S.) Ellis, John (Brigg & Scun) Hughes, Mark (Durham)
Callaghan, Jim (Middleton & P.) Ellis, Tom (Wrexham) Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen N.)
Campbell, Ian English, Michael Hughes, Roy (Newport)
Canavan, Dennis Ennals, David Hunter, Adam
Cant, R. B. Evans, loan L. (Aberdare) Irvine, Rt Hon Sir A. (L'pool)
Carmichael, Neil Evans, John (Newton) Irving, Rt Hon S. (Dartford)
Carter, Ray Ewing, Harry (Stirling) Jackson, Colin (Brighouse)
Carter-Jones, Lewis Faulds, Andrew Jackson, Miss Margaret (Lincoln)
Cartwright, John Fernyhough, Rt Hon E. James, David
Castle, Rt Hon Barbara Fitch, Alan (Wigan) Janner, Greville
Clemitson, I. M. Flannery, Martin Jay, Rt Hon Douglas
Cocks, Michael (Bristol S.) Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) Jeger, Mrs Lena
Cohen, Stanley Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) Jenkins, Hugh (Wandsworth)
Coleman, Donald Foot, Rt Hon Michael Jenkins, Rt Hon Roy (B'ham, St)
John, Brynmor Morris, Alfred (Wylhenshawe) Spearing, Nigel
Johnson, James (Kingston, W.) Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) Spriggs, Leslie
Jones, Alec (Rhondda) Morris, Rt Hon John (Aberavon) Stallard, A. W.
Jones, Barry (East Flint) Mulley, Rt Hon Frederick Stewart, Donald (Western Isles)
Jones, Dan (Burnley) Murray, Ronald King Stewart, Rt Hn Michael (H'smith, F)
Judd, Frank Newens, Stanley Stoddart, David
Kaufman, Gerald Oakes, Gordon Stott, Roger
Kerr, Russell Ogden, Eric Strang, Gavin
Kilroy-Silk, Robert O'Halloran, Michael Strauss, Rt Hon G. R.
Kinnock, Neil O'Malley, Brian Summerskill, Hon Dr Shirley
Lambie, David Orbach, Maurice Taylor, Mrs Ann (Bolton W)
Lamborn, Harry Ovenden, John Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery)
Lamond, James Owen, Dr David Thomas, Mike (Newcastle)
Leadbitter, Ted Padley, Walter Thomas, Ron (Bristol NW)
Lee, John Palmer, Arthur Thompson, George
Lestor, Miss Joan (Eton & Slough) Park, George Thorne, Stan (Preston)
Lever, Rt Hon Harold Parker, John Tierney, Sydney
Lewis, Arthur (Newham N.) Parry, Robert Tinn, James
Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) Peart, Rt Hon Fred Tomlinson, John
Lipton, Marcus Pendry, Tom Torney, Tom
Litterick, Tom Perry, Ernest Tuck, Raphael
Lomas, Kenneth Phipps, Dr Colin Urwin, T. W.
Loyden, Eddie Prentice, Rt Hon Reg Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne V.)
Luard, Even Prescott, John Walden, Brian (B'ham, L'dyw'd)
Lyon, Alexander (York) Price, William (Rugby) Walker, Harold (Doncaster)
Lyons, Edward (Bradlord W) Radice, Giles Walker, Terry (Kingswood)
Mabon, Dr J. Dickson Rees, Rt Hon Merlyn (Leeds S.) Ward, Michael
McCartney, Hugh Reid, George Watkins, David
McElhone, Frank Richardson, Miss Jo Watkinson, John
MacFarquhar, R. Roberts, Albert (Normanton) Watt, Hamish
McGuire, Michael (Ince) Roberts, Gwilym (Cannock) Weetch, Ken
Mackenzie, Gregor Robertson, John (Paisley) Weitzman, David
Mackintosh, John P. Roderick, Caerwyn Wellbeloved, James
Maclennan, Robert Rodgers, George (Chorley) Welsh, Andrew
McMillan, Tom (Glasgow C.) Rodgers, William (Teesside) White, Frank R. (Bury)
McNamara, Kevin Rooker, J. W. White, James (Glasgow, P)
Madden, Max Roper, John Whitehead, Phillip
Magee, Bryan Rose, Paul B. Willey, Rt Hon Frederick
Mahon, Simon Ross, Rt Hon W. (Kilm'nock) Williams, Alan (Swansea)
Mallalieu, J. P. W. Rowlands, Ted Williams, Alan, Lee (Haver'g)
Marks, Ken Ryman, John Williams, Rt Hn Shirley (Hertford)
Marquand, David Sandelson, Neville Williams, W. T. (Warrington)
Marshall, Dr Edmund (Goole) Sedgemore, B. Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton)
Marshall, Jim (Leicester) Selby, Harry Wilson, Rt Hon H. (Huyton)
Mason, Rt Hon Roy Shaw, Arnold (Redbridge, Ilf.) Wilson, William (Coventry S.E.)
Maynard, Miss Joan Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-u-Lyne) Wise, Mrs Audrey
Meacher, Michael Shore, Rt Hon Peter Woodall, Alec
Mellish, Rt Hon Robert Short, Rt Hon Edward (Newcastle C) Woof, Robert
Mikardo, Ian Short, Mrs Renée (Wolv NE) Wrigglesworth, Ian
Millan, Bruce Silkin, Rt Hn John (Lewish.) Young, David (Bolton E )
Miller, Dr M. (E. Kilbride) Silkin, Rt Hn S. C. (Southwk.)
Miller, Mrs Millie (Redbridge) Sillars, James TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Mitchell, R. C. (Soton, Itchen) Silverman, Julius Mr.Walter Johnson and
Molloy, William Small, William Mr. Laurie Pavitt.
Moonman, Eric Snape, Peter
NOES
Beith, A. J. Maxwell-Hyslop, Robin Thorpe, Rt Hon Jeremy (Devon)
Freud, Clement Pardoe, John Wainwright, Richard (Colne V)
Grimond, Rt Hon J. Penhallgon, David
Hooson, Emlyn Ross, Stephen (Isle of Wight) TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
Howells, Geraint (Cardigan) Stanbrook, Ivor Mr. Cyril Smith and
Kilfedder, James Stewart, Ian (Hitchin) Mr. David Steel.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Bill read a Second time.

Ordered,

That Clauses 5, 14, 16, 17, 33 and 49 be committed to a Committee of the whole House:

That the remainder of the Bill be committed to a Standing Committee.

That, when the provisions of the Bill considered, respectively, by the Committee of the whole House and by the Standing Committee have been reported to the House, the Bill be proceeded with as if the Bill had been reported as a whole to the House from the Standing Committee,—[Dr. Gilbert.]

Committee tomorrow.