HC Deb 25 July 1972 vol 841 cc1712-5

SUPPLEMENTAL

Lords Amendment: No. 56, in page 75, line 6, at end insert: (3) Without prejudice to the generality of the provisions of subsection (2) above, an increase of the part of any rent attributable to rates, or to the use of furniture, or to the provision of services—

  1. (a) shall be disregarded in determining whether there has been a general rent increase or in determining the amount of that increase, and
  2. (b) shall not count towards the increases towards fair rents which the authority is to make.

Question put, That this House doth agree with the Lords in the said Amendment: —

The House divided: Ayes 284, Noes 259.

Division No. 317.] AYES [12.11 a.m
Adley, Robert Cordle, John Grant, Anthony (Harrow, C.)
Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash) Corfield, Rt. Hn. Sir Frederick Gray, Hamish
Allason, James (Hemel Hempstead) Cormack, Patrick Green, Alan
Amery, Rt. Hn. Julian Costain, A. P. Grieve, Percy
Archer, Jeffrey (Louth) Crouch, David Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds)
Astor, John Crowder, F. P. Gummer, Selwyn
Atkins, Humphrey Davies, Rt. Hn. John (Knutsford) Gurden, Harold
Awdry, Daniel d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Maj.-Gen. James Hall, Miss Joan (Keighley)
Baker, Kenneth (St. Marylebone) Dean, Paul Hall, John (Wycombe)
Balniel, Rt. Hn. Lord Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F. Hall-Davis, A. G. F.
Batsford, Brian Digby, Simon Wingfield Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury)
Bell, Ronald Dixon, Piers Hannam, John (Exeter)
Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gosport) Dodds-Parker, Douglas Harrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye)
Benyon, W. Douglas-Home, Rt. Hn. Sir Alec Haselhurst, Alan
Berry, Hn. Anthony Drayson, G. B. Hastings, Stephen
Biggs-Davison, John du Cann, Rt. Hn. Edward Havers, Michael
Blaker, Peter Dykes, Hugh Hawkins, Paul
Boardman, Tom (Leicester, S.W.) Eden, Sir John Hayhoe, Barney
Body, Richard Edwards, Nicholas (Pembroke) Heath, Rt. Hn. Edward
Boscawen, Robert Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton) Heseltine, Michael
Bossom, Sir Clive Elliott, R. W. (N'c'tle-upon-Tyne,N.) Higgins, Terence L.
Bowden, Andrew Emery, Peter Hiley, Joseph
Braine, Sir Bernard Eyre, Reginald Hill, John E. B. (Norfolk, S.)
Bray, Ronald Farr, John Hill, James (Southampton, Test)
Brewis, John Fell, Anthony Holland, Philip
Brinton, Sir Tatton Fenner, Mrs. Peggy Holt, Miss Mary
Brocklebank-Fowler, Christopher Fidler, Michael Hordern, Peter
Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) Finsberg, Geoffrey (Hampstead) Hornby, Richard
Bruce-Gardyne, J. Fisher, Nigel (Surbiton) Hornsby-Smith.Rt.Hn.Dame Patricia
Brvan, Sir Paul Fletcher-Cooke, Charles Howe, Hn. Sir Geoffrey (Reigate)
Buchanan-Smith, Alick(Angus, N&M) Fookes, Miss Janet Howell, Ralph (Norfolk, N.)
Buck, Antony Fortescue, Tim Hunt, John
Bullus, Sir Eric Foster, Sir John Hutchison, Michael Clark
Burden, F. A. Fowler, Norman Iremonger, T. L.
Butler, Adam (Bosworth) Fox, Marcus Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye)
Campbell, Rt. Hn. G.(Moray&Nairn) Fraser, Rt. Hn. Hugh (St'fford & Stone) James, David
Carlisle, Mark Fry, Peter Jenkin, Patrick (Woodford)
Carr, Rt. Hn. Robert Galbraith, Hn. T. C. Jennings, J. C. (Burton)
Chapman, Sydney Gardner, Edward Jessel, Toby
Chataway, Rt. Hn. Christopher Gilmour, Ian (Norfolk, C.) Johnson Smith, G. (E. Grinstead)
Chichester-Clark, R. Gilmour, Sir John (Fife, E.) Jones, Arthur (Northants, S.)
Churchill, W. S. Glyn, Dr. Alan Jopling, Michael
Clark, William (Surrey, E.) Goodhart, Philip Joseph, Rt. Hn. Sir Keith
Clegg, Walter Goodhew, Victor Kaberry, Sir Donald
Cockeram, Eric Gorst, John Kellett-Bowman, Mrs. Elaine
Cooke, Robert Gower, Raymond Kershaw, Anthony
Cooper, A. E.
King, Evelyn (Dorset, S.) Neave, Airey Smith, Dudley (W'wick & L'mington)
King, Tom (Bridgwater) Nicholls, Sir Harmar Soref, Harold
Kinsey, J. R. Noble, Rt. Hn. Michael Speed, Keith
Kirk, Peter Normanton, Tom Spence, John
Kitson, Timothy Nott, John Sproat, Iain
Knight, Mrs. Jill Onslow, Cranley Stainton, Keith
Knox, David Oppenheim, Mrs. Sally Stanbrook, Ivor
Lembton, Antony Osborn, John Stewart-Smith, Geoffrey (Belper)
Lamont, Norman Owen, Idris (Stockport, N.) Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir M.
Lane, David Page, Rt. Hn. Graham (Crosby) Stuttaford, Dr. Tom
Langford-Holt, Sir John Page, John (Harrow, W.) Sutcliffe, John
Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry Parkinson, Cecil Tapsell, Peter
Le Marchant, Spencer Peel, John Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)
Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) Percival, Ian Taylor, Edward M.(G'gow, Cathcart)
Lloyd, Ian (P'tsm'th, Langstone) Peyton, Rt. Hn. John Taylor, Frank (Moss Side)
Longden, Sir Gilbert Pink, R. Bonner Tebbit, Norman
Loveridge, John Powell, Rt. Hn. J. Enoch Temple, John M.
Luce, R. N. Price, David (Eastleigh) Thatcher, Rt. Hn. Mrs. Margaret
McAdden, Sir Stephen Prior, Rt. Hn. J. M. L. Thomas, John Stradling (Monmouth)
MacArthur, Ian Pym, Rt. Hn. Francis Thompson, Sir Richard (Croydon, S.)
McCrindle, R. A. Quennell, Miss J. M. Tilney, John
McLaren, Martin Raison, Timothy Trafford, Dr. Anthony
Maclean, Sir Fitzroy Ramsden, Rt. Hn. James Trew, Peter
Macmillan, Rt. Hn. Maurice (Farnham) Redmond, Robert Tugendhat, Christopher
McNair-Wilson, Michael Reed, Laurance (Bolton, E.) Turton, Rt. Hn. Sir Robin
McNair-Wilson, Patrick (NewForest) Rees, Peter (Dover) van Straubenzee, W. R.
Maddan, Martin Rees-Davies, W. R. Vaughan, Dr. Gerard
Madel, David Renton, Rt. Hn. Sir David Vickers, Dame Joan
Marples, Rt. Hn. Ernest Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon Waddington, David
Marten, Neil Ridley, Hn. Nicholas Walder, David (Clitheroe)
Mather, Carol Ridsdale, Julian Walker, Rt. Hn. Peter (Worcester)
Maude, Angus Rippon, Rt. Hn. Geoffrey Walker-Smith, Rt. Hn. Sir Derek
Mawby, Ray Roberts, Michael (Cardiff, N.) Wall, Patrick
Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J. Roberts, Wyn (Conway) Walters, Dennis
Meyer, Sir Anthony Rodgers, Sir John (Sevenoaks) Weatherill, Bernard
Mills, Peter (Torrington) Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) Wells, John (Maidstone)
Mills, Stratton (Belfast, N.) Rost, Peter White, Roger (Gravesend)
Miscampbell, Norman Royle, Anthony Wiggin, Jerry
Mitchell, Lt.-Col. C. (Aberdeenshire, W) Russell, Sir Ronald Wilkinson, John
Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) St. John-Stevas, Norman Winterton, Nicholas
Moate, Roger Sandys, Rt. Hn. D. Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick
Money, Ernle Scott, Nicholas Wood, Rt. Hn. Richard
Monks, Mrs. Connie Scott-Hopkins, James Woodnutt, Mark
Monro, Hector Sharples, Sir Richard Worsley, Marcus
Montgomery, Fergus Shaw, Michael (Sc'b'gh & Whitby) Wylie, Rt. Hn. N. R.
More, Jasper Shelton, William (Clapham) Younger, Hn. George
Morgan, Geraint (Denbigh) Simeons, Charles
Morgan-Giles, Rear-Adm. Sinclair, Sir George TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Morrison, Charles Skeet, T. H. H. Mr. Oscar Murton and
Mudd, David Mr. Kenneth Clarke.
NOES
Abse, Leo Carter, Ray (Birmingh'm, Northfield) Duffy, A. E. P.
Albu, Austen Carter-Jonas, Lewis (Eccles) Dunnett, Jack
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Castle, Rt. Hn. Barbara Eadie, Alex
Archer, Peter (Rowley Regis) Clark, David (Colne Valley) Edelman, Maurice
Armstrong, Ernest Cocks, Michael (Bristol, S.) Edwards, Robert (Bilston)
Ashton, Joe Cohen, Stanley Edwards, William (Merioneth)
Atkinson, Norman Concannon, J. D. Ellis, Tom
Bagler, Gordon A. T. Conlan, Bernard English, Michael
Barnes, Michael Corbet, Mrs. Freda Evans, Fred
Barnett, Guy (Greenwich) Cox, Thomas (Wandsworth, C.) Ewing, Harry
Barnett, Joel (Heywood and Royton) Crawshaw, Richard Fitch, Alan (Wigan)
Bennett, James (Glasgow, Bridgeton) Crosland, Rt. Hn. Anthony Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkestone)
Bidwell, Sydney Crossman, Rt. Hn. Richard Fletcher, Ted (Darlington)
Bishop, E. S. Cunningham, G. (Islington, S.W.) Foley, Maurice
Blenkinsop, Arthur Cunningham, Dr. J. A. (Whitehaven) Foot, Michael
Boardman, H. (Leigh) Dalyell, Tam Ford, Ben
Booth, Albert Davidson, Arthur Forrester, John
Bottomley, Rt. Hn. Arthur Davies, Denzil (Llanelly) Fraser, John (Norwood)
Boyden, James (Bishop Auckland) Davies, Ifor (Gower) Freeson, Reginald
Bradley, Tom Davis, Clinton (Hackney, C.) Galpern, Sir Meyer
Broughton, Sir Alfred Davis, Terry (Bromsgrove) Garrett, W. E.
Brown, Bob (N'c'tle-upon-Tyne,W.) Deakins, Eric Gilbert, Dr. John
Brown, Hugh D. (G'gow, Provan) de Freitas, Rt. Hn. Sir Geoffrey Ginsburg, David (Dewsbury)
Brown, Ronald (Shoreditch & F'bury) Dell, Rt. Hn. Edmund Golding, John
Buchan, Norman Dempsey, James Gordon Walker, Rt. Hn. P. C
Buchanan, Richard (G'gow, Sp'burn) Doig, Peter Gourlay, Harry
Butler, Mrs. Joyce (Wood Green) Dorman, J. D. Grant, George (Morpeth)
Campbell, I. (Dunbartonshire, W.) Douglas, Dick (Stirlingshire, E.) Grant, John D. (Islington, E.)
Cant, R. B. Douglas-Mann, Bruce Griffiths, Eddie (Brightside)
Carmichael, Neil Driberg, Tom Griffiths, Will (Exchange)
Hamilton, James (Bothwell) Mackie, John Roderick, Caerwyn E.(Br'c'n&R'dnor)
Hamilton, William (Fife, W.) Mackintosh, John P. Rodgers, William (Stockton-on-Tees)
Hamling, William Maclennan, Robert Roper, John
Hannan, William (G'gow, Maryhill) McMillan, Tom (Glasgow, C.) Rose, Paul B.
Hardy, Peter McNamara, J. Kevin Ross, Rt. Hn. William (Kilmarnock)
Harper, Joseph Mahon, Simon (Bootle) Rowlands, Ted
Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersfield, E.) Sandelson, Neville
Hart, Rt. Hn. Judith Marks, Kenneth Sheldon, Robert (Ashton-under-Lyne)
Hattersley, Roy Marquand, David Shore, Rt. Hn. Peter (Stepney)
Healey, Rt. Hn. Denis Marsden, F. Short, Rt.Hn. Edward (N'c'tle-u-Tyne)
Heffer, Eric S. Marshall, Dr. Edmund Silkin, Rt. Hn. John (Deptford)
Horam, John Mason, Rt. Kn. Roy Silkin, Hn. S. C. (Dulwich)
Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas Mayhew, Christopher Sillars, James
Howell, Denis (Small Heath) Meacher, Michael Silverman, Julius
Huckfield, Leslie Mellish, Rt. Hn. Robert Skinner, Dennis
Hughes, Rt. Hn. Cledwyn (Anglesey) Mendelson, John Small, William
Hughes, Mark (Durham) Mikardo, Ian Smith, John (Lanarkshire, N.)
Hughes, Robert (Aberdeen, N.) Millan, Bruce Spearing, Nigel
Hunter, Adam Miller, Dr. M. S. Spriggs, Leslie
Irvine, Rt. Hn. Sir Arthur (Edge Hill) Milne, Edward Stallard, Ivor
Janner, Greville Mitchell, R. C. (S'hampton, Itchen) Stewart, Rt. Hn. Michael (Fulham)
Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas Molloy, William Stoddart, David (Swindon)
Jeger, Mrs. Lena Morgan, Elystan (Cardiganshire) Stonehouse, Rt. Hn. John
Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) Strang, Gavin
John, Brynmor Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) Strauss, Rt. Hn. G. R.
Johnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.) Morris, Rt. Hn. John (Aberavon) Summerskill, Hn. Dr. Shirley
Johnson, James (K'ston-on-Hull, W.) Moyle, Roland Taverne, Dick
Johnson, Walter (Derby, S.) Mulley, Rt. Hn. Frederick Thomas, Rt. Hn. George (Cardiff,W.)
Jones, Barry (Flint, E.) Murray, Ronald King Thomas, Jeffrey (Abertillery)
Jones, Dan (Burnley) Oakes, Gordon Thomson, Rt. Hn. G. (Dundee, E.)
Jones, Rt. Hn. Sir Elwyn(W.Ham, S.) Ogden, Eric Tinn, James
Jones, Gwynoro (Carmarthen) O'Halloran, Michael Tomney, Frank
Jones, T. Alec (Rhondda, W.) O'Malley, Brian Torney, Tom
Judd, Frank Oram, Bert Tuck, Raphael
Kaufman, Gerald Orme, Stanley Urwin, T. W.
Kelley, Richard Oswald, Thomas Varley, Eric G.
Kinnock, Neil Owen, Dr. David (Plymouth, Sutton) Wainwright, Edwin
Lambie, David Paget, R. T. Walden, Brian (B'm'ham, All Saints)
Lamond, James Palmer, Arthur Walker, Harold (Doncaster)
Latham, Arthur Pannell, Rt. Hn. Charles Wallace, George
Lawson, George Parry, Robert (Liverpool, Exchange) Watkins, David
Leadbitter, Ted Pavitt, Laurie Weitzman, David
Leonard, Dick Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred Wells, William (Walsall, N.)
Lestor, Miss Joan Pendry, Tom White, James (Glasgow, Pollok)
Lever, Rt. Hn. Harold Pentland, Norman Whitehead, Philip
Lewis, Arthur (W. Ham, N.) Perry, Ernest G. Whitelaw, Rt. Hn. William
Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) Prentice, Rt. Hn. Reg. Whitlock, William
Lipton, Marcus Prescott, John Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick
Lomas, Kenneth Price, J. T. (Westhoughton) Williams, Alan (Swansea, W.)
Loughlin, Charles Price, William (Rugby) Williams, Mrs. Shirley (Hitchin)
Lyon, Alexander W. (York) Probert, Arthur Wilson, Alexander (Hamilton)
Lyons, Edward (Bradford, E.) Reed, D. (Sedgefield) Wilson, Rt. Hn. Harold (Huyton)
Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson Rees, Merlyn (Leeds, S.) Wilson, William (Coventry, S.)
McBride, Neil Richard, Ivor Woof, Robert
McCartney, Hugh Roberts, Albert (Normanton)
McElhone, Frank Roberts, Rt. Hn. Goronwy (Caernarvon) TELLERS FOR THE NOES:
McGuire, Michael Robertson, John (Paisley) Mr. Donald Coleman and
Mackenzie, Gregor Mr. James A. Dunn.

Question accordingly agreed to.

Subsequent Lords Amendments agreed to, some with Special Entry.