§ TRANSFER TO EXECUTIVE OF LOCAL AUTHORITY TRANSPORT UNDERTAKINGS
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Amendment made: No. 85, in page 27, line 36, leave out '8th December 1967' and insert:
'the identifying date (that is to say, 8th December 1967 or a date five years before the date of the making of the order, whichever is the later)'.—[Mr. Swingler..]
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Amendment proposed: No. 86, in page 27, line 44, after ' being ', insert:
'property, rights and liabilities which are on the date so appointed, or have at any time since the identifying date been,'.—[Mr. Swingler.]
§ Question put, That the Amendment be made:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 280, Noes 231.
1489| Division No. 181.] | AYES | [12.5 p.m. |
| Albu, Austen | Coleman, Donald | Forrester, John |
| Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) | Conlan, Bernard | Fowler, Gerry |
| Alldritt, Walter | Corbet, Mrs. Freda | Fraser, John (Norwood) |
| Allen, Scholefield | Craddock, George (Bradford, S.) | Freeson, Reginald |
| Anderson, Donald | Crawshaw, Richard | Galpern, Sir Myer |
| Archer, Peter | Crosland, Rt. Hn. Anthony | Gardner, Tony |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Crossman, Rt. Hn. Richard | Garrett, W. E. |
| Atkins, Ronald (Preston, N.) | Cullen, Mrs. Alice | Ginsburg, David |
| Atkinson, Norman (Tottenham) | Dalyell, Tam | Gourlay, Harry |
| Bacon, Rt. Hn. Alice | Davies, G. Elfed (Rhondda, E.) | Grav' Dr' HuSh (Yarmouth) |
| Bagier, Cordon A. T. | Davies, Dr. Ernest (Stratford) | Greenwood, Rt. Hn. Anthony |
| Barnes, Michael | Davies, Harold (Leek) | Gregory, Arnold |
| Barnett, Joel | Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Grey, Charles (Durham) |
| Baxter, William | de Freitas, Rt. Hn. Sir Geoffrey | Griffiths, David (Rother Valley) |
| Bence, Cyril | Delargy, Hugh | Griffiths, Rt. Hn. James (Llanelly) |
| Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony Wedgwood | Dell, Edmund | Griffiths, Will (Exchange) |
| Bennett, Jamos (G'gow, Bridgeton) | Dempsey, James | Gunter, Rt. Hn. R. J. |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Dewar, Donald | Hamilton, James (Bothwell) |
| Binns, John | Diamond, Rt. Hn. John | Hamilton, William (Fife, W.) |
| Bishop, E. S. | Dickens, James | Hamling, William |
| Blackburn, F. | Dobson, Ray | Hannan, William |
| Blenkinsop, Arthur | Doig, Peter | Harper, Joseph |
| Boardman, H. (Leigh) | Dunn, James A. | Harrison, Walter(Wakefield) |
| Bottomley, Rt. Hn. Arthur | Dunwoody, Mrs. Gwyneth (Exeter) | Hart, Rt. Hn. Judith |
| Boyden, James | Dunwoody, Dr. John (F'th & C'b'e) | Haseldine, Norman |
| Braddock, Mrs. E. M. | Eadie, Alex | Hattersley, Roy |
| Bradley, Tom | Edwards, Robert (Bilston) | Hazell, Bert |
| Bray, Dr. Jeremy | Edwards, William (Merioneth) | Healey, Rt. Hn. Denis |
| Brooks, Edwin | Ellis, John | Heifer, Eric S. |
| Broughton, Dr. A. D. D. | English, Michael | Henig, Stanley |
| Brown, Rt. Hn. George (Belper) | Ennals, David | Hobden, Dennis (Brighton, K'town) |
| Brown, Hugh D. (G'gow, Provan) | Ensor, David | Hooley, Frank |
| Brown,R. W. (Shoreditch & F'bury) | Evans, loan L. (Birm'h'm, Vardley) | Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas |
| Buchan, Norman | Fernyhough, E. | Howarth, Harry (Wellingborough) |
| Buchanan, Richard (G'gow, Sp'burn) | Fitch, Alan (Wigan) | Howarth, Robert (Bolton, E.) |
| Butler, Mrs. joyce (Wood Green) | Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) | Howell, Denis (Small Heath) |
| Cant, R. B. | Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Howie, W. |
| Carmichael, Neil | Foley, Maurice | Huckfied, Leslie |
| Castle, Rt. Hn. Barbara | Foot, Rt. Hn. Sir Dingle (Ipswich) | Hughes, Rt. Hn. Cletfwyn (Anglesey) |
| Chapman, Donald | Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale) | Hughes, Emrys (Ayrshire, S.) |
| Coe, Denis | Ford, Ben | Hughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N.) |
| Hughes, Roy (Newport) | Marks, Kenneth | Rogers, Ceorge (Kensington, N.) |
| Hunter, Adam | Marquand, David | Rose, Paul |
| Hynd, John | Marsh, Rt. Hn. Richard | Ross, Rt. Hn. William |
| Irvine, Sir Arthur (Edge Hill) | Mason, Rt. Hn. Roy | Ryan, John |
| Jackson, Colin (B'h'se & Spenb'gh) | Mayhew, Christopher | Shaw, Arnold (llford, S.) |
| Jackson, Peter M. (High Peak) | Mendelson, J. J. | Sheldon, Robert |
| Janner, Sir Barnett | Mikardo, Ian | Shore, Rt. Hn. Peter (Stepney) |
| Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas | Millan, Bruce | Short,Rt.Hn.Edward(N'c'tle-u-Tyne) |
| Jeger, George (Goole) | Miller, Dr. M. S. | Silkin, Rt. Hn. John (Deptford) |
| Jeger,Mrs.Lena(H'b'n&St.P'cra8,S.) | Milne, Edward (Blyth) | Skeffington, Arthur |
| Jenkins, Rt. Hn. Roy (Stechford) | Mitchell, R. C. (S'th'pton, Test) | Slater, Joseph |
| Johnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.) | Molloy, William | Small, William |
| Johnson, James (K'ston-on-Hull, W.) | Moonman, Eric | Snow, Julian |
| Jones, Dan (Burnley) | Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) | Spriggs, Leslie |
| Jones,Rt.Hn.Sir Elwyn(W.Ham,S.) | Moyle, Roland | Stewart, Rt. Hn. Michael |
| Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham) | Murray, Albert | Stonehomse, John |
| Judd, Frank | Neal, Harold | Strauss, Rt. Hn. G. R. |
| Kelley, Richard | Newens, Stan | Summerskill, Hn. Dr. Shirley |
| Kenyon, Clifford | Norwood, Christopher | Swain, Thomas |
| Lawson, George | Oakes, Gordon | Swingler, Stephen |
| Leadbitter, Ted | Ogden, Eric | Symonds, J. B. |
| Ledger, Ron | O'Malley, Brian | Taverne, Dick |
| Lee, Rt. Hn. Frederick (Newton) | Oram, Albert E. | Thomas, Rt. Hn. Ceorge |
| Lee, John (Reading) | Orme, Stanley | Thomson, Rt. Hn. George |
| Lestor, Miis Joan | Oswald, Thomas | Thornton, Ernest |
| Lever, Harold (Cheetham) | Owen, Dr. David (Plymouth, S'tn) | Tinn, James |
| Lewis, Arthur (W. Ham, N.) | Owen, Will (Morpeth) | Urwin, T. W. |
| Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Paget, R. T. | Varley, Eric G. |
| Lipton, Marcus | Pannell, Rt. Hn. Charles | Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne Valley) |
| Lomas, Kenneth | Parker, John (Dagenham) | Walden, Brian (All Saints) |
| Loughlin, Charles | Parkyn, Brian (Bedford) | Walker, Harold (Doncaster) |
| Luard, Evan | Pavitt, Laurence | Wallace, George |
| Lyon, Alexander W. (York) | Pearson, Arthur (Pontypridd) | Watkins, David (Consett) |
| Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson | Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred | Watkins, Tudor (Brecon & Radnor) |
| McBride, Neil | Pentland, Norman | Weitzman, David |
| McCann, John | Perry, Ernest G. (Battersea, S.) | Wellbeloved, James |
| MacColl, James | Perry, George H. (Nottingham, S.) | Whitaker, Ben |
| MacDermot, Niall | Prentice, Rt. Hn. R. E. | White, Mrs. Eirene |
| Macdonald, A. H. | Price, Thomas (Westhoughton) | Whitlock, William |
| McKay, Mrs. Margaret | Price. William (Rugby) | Williams, Alan (Swansea, W.) |
| Mackenzie, Gregor (Rutherglen) | Probert, Arthur | Williams, Alan Lee (Hornchurch) |
| Mackie, John | Pursey, Cmdr. Harry | Williams, Clifford (Abertillery) |
| Mackintosh, John P. | Rankin, John | Williams, Mrs. Shirley (Hitchin) |
| Maclennan, Robert | Rees, Mer'yn | Willis, Rt. Hn. George |
| MacMillan, Malcolm (Western Isles) | Reynolds, G. W. | Wilson, Rt. Hn. Harold (Huyton) |
| McMillan, Tom (Glasgow, C.) | Rhodes, Geoffrey | Winnick, David |
| McNamara, J. Kevin | Richard, Ivor | Woodburn, Rt. Hn. A. |
| MacPherson, Malcolm | Roberts, Albert (Normanton) | Woof, Robert |
| Mahon, Peter (Preston, S.) | Roberts, Goronwy (Caernarvon) | Wyatt, Woodrow |
| Mahon, Simon (Bootle) | Roberts, Gwilym (Bedfordshire, S.) | Yates, Victor |
| Mallalieu,J.P.W.(Huddersfield,E.) | Robertson, John (Paisley) | |
| Manuel, Archie | Robinson,Rt.Hn.Kenneth(St.P'c'as) | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Mapp, Charles | Robinson, W. O. J. (Walth'stow, E.) | Mr. Charles R. Morris and Mr. J. D. Concannon. |
| Rodgers, William (Stockton) | ||
| NOES | ||
| Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash) | Braine, Bernard | Currie, G. B. H. |
| Allason, James (Hemel Hempstead) | Brewis, John | Dalkeith, Earl of |
| Astor, John | Brinton, Sir Tatton | Dance, James |
| Atkins,Humphrey (M't'n & M'd'n) | Bromley-Davenport.Lt.-Col.Sir Walter | Davidson, James (Aberdeenshire, W.) |
| Awdry' Daniel | Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Sir Henry |
| Baker,Kenneth (Acton) | Bruce-Gardyne, J. | Dean, Paul (Somerset, N.) |
| Baker W H K (Banff) | Bryan, Paul | Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F. (Ashford) |
| Barber Rt. Hn. Anthony | Buchanan-Smith,Alick(Angus,N&M) | Digby, Simon Wingfield |
| Batsford Brian | Buck, Antony (Colchester) | Dodds-Parker, Douglas |
| Beamish, Col. Sir Tufton | Bullus, Sir Eric | Doughty, Charles |
| Bell, Ronald | Burden, F.A. | Douglas-Home, Rt. Hn. Sir Alec |
| Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay) | Camphell, Gorden | Drayson, G. B. |
| Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gos. & Fhm) | carlisle, Mark | Du Cann, Rt. Hn. Edward |
| Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gos. & Fhm) | Carr Rt. Hn. Robert | Eden, sir John |
| Berry, Hn. Anthony | Cary, Sir Robert | Elliot, Capt. Walter (carshalton) |
| Bessell, Peter | Channon, H. P. G. | Elliott,R.W.(N'c'tle.upon.Tyne,N.) |
| Biffen, John | Chichester-Clark, R. | Emery, Peter |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Clark, Harry | Errington, Sir Eric |
| Birth, Rt. Hn. Nigel | Clegg, Walter | Eyre, Reginald |
| Black, Sir Cyril | Cooke, Robert | Farr, John |
| Blaker, Peter | Corfield, F. V. | Fisher, Nigel |
| Boardman, Tom (Leicester, S.W.) | Costain, A. P. | Fletcher-Cooke, Charles |
| Body, Richard | Craddock, Sir Beresford (Spelthorne) | Fortescue, Tim |
| Bowom, Sir Clive | Crouch, David | Foster, Sir John |
| Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. John | Crowder, F. P. | Fraser,Rt.Hn.Hugh(St'fford & stone) |
| Boyle, Rt. Hn. Sir Edward | Cunningham, Sir Knox | Galbraith, Hn. T. G. |
| Gibson-Watt, David | Lloyd, Ian (P'tsm'th, Langstone) | Rossi, Hugh (Horneey) |
| Giles, Rear-Adm. Morgan | Longden, Gilbert | Rowlands, E. (Cardiff, N.) |
| Gilmour, Ian (Norfolk, C.) | Lubbock, Eric | Russell, Sir Ranald |
| Glyn, Sir Richard | McAdden, Sir Stephen | St. John-Stevas, Norman |
| Goodhart, Philip | MacArthur, Ian | Sandys, Rt. Hn. D. |
| Cower, Raymond | Mackenzie,Alasdair (Ross&Crom'ty) | Scott, Nicholas |
| Grant, Anthony | Maclean, Sir Fitzroy | Scott-Hopkins, James |
| Crgnt-Ferris, R. | Macleod, Rt. Hn. lain | Sharpies, Richard |
| Gresham Coike, R. | McMaster, Stanley | Shaw, Michael (Sc'b'gh & Whitby) |
| Grieve, Percy | Macmillan, Maurice (Farnham) | Silvester, Frederick |
| Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds) | Maddan, Martin | Sinclair, Sir George |
| Grimond, Rt. Hn. J. | Maginnis, John E. | Smith, Dudley (W'wick & L'mington) |
| Gurden, Harold | Marples, Rt. Hn. Ernest | Smith, John (London & W'minster) |
| Hall, John (Wycombe) | Marten, Neil | Speed, Keith |
| Hall-Davies, A. G. F. | Maude, Angus | Stainton, Keith |
| Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | Mawby, Ray | Steel, David (Roxburgh) |
| Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.W.) | Maydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C. | Stodart, Anthony |
| Harrison, Brian (Maldon) | Mills, Stratton (Belfast, N.) | Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir M. (Ripon) |
| Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere | Miscampbell, Norman | Tapsell, Peter |
| Harvie Anderson, Miss | Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) | Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne) |
| Hawkins, Paul | Monro, Hector | Taylor,Edward M.(G'gow,Cathcart) |
| Hay, John | Montgomery, Fergus | Taylor, Frank (Moss Side) |
| Heald, Rt. Hn. Sir Lionel | More, Jasper | Teeling, Sir William |
| Heseltine, Michael | Morgan, Geraint (Denbigh) | Temple, John M. |
| Higgins, Terence L. | Morrison, Charles (Devizes) | Thatcher, Mrs. Margaret |
| Hill, J. E. B. | Mott-Radclyffe, Sir Charles | Thorpe, Rt. Hn. Jeremy |
| Hogg, Rt. Hn. Quintin | Munro-Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh | Turton, Rt. Hn. R. H. |
| Holland, Phillp | Murton, Oscar | van Straubenzee, W. R. |
| Hooson, Emlyn | Neave, Airey | Vaughan-Morgan, Rt. Hn. Sir John |
| Hordern, Peter | Nicholls, Sir Harmar | Vickers, Dame Joan |
| Hornby, Richard | Noble, Rt. Hn. Michael | Wainwright, Richard (Colne Valley) |
| Howell, David (Guildford) | Nott, John | Walker, Peter (Worcester) |
| Hunt, John | Onslow, Cranley | Walker-Smith, Rt. Hn. Sir Derek |
| Hutchison, Michael Clark | Orr, Capt. L. P. S. | Wall, Patrick |
| Iremonger, T. L. | Orr-Ewing, Sir Ian | Walters, Dennis |
| Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) | Page, Graham (Crosby) | Webster, David |
| Jenkin, Patrick (Woodford) | Page, John (Harrow, W.) | Wells, John (Mardstone) |
| Jennings, J. c. (Burton) | Pardoe, John | Whitelaw, Rt. Hn. William |
| Johnson Smith, G. (E. Grinstead) | Pearson, Sir Frank (Clitheroe) | Williams, Donald (Dudley) |
| Jones, Arthur (Northants, S.) | Peel, John | Will's, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater) |
| Kaberry, Sir Donald | Peyton, John | Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro) |
| Kerby, Capt. Henry | Pike, Miss Mervyn | Winstanley, Dr. M. P. |
| Kershaw, Anthony | Pink, R. Bonner | Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick |
| Kimball, Marcus | Pounder, Rafton | Wood, Rt. Hn. Richard |
| King, Evelyn (Dorset, S.) | Powell, Rt. Hn. J. Enoch | Woodnutt, Mark |
| Kirk, Peter | Price, David (Eastleigh) | Worsley, Marcus |
| Lambton, Viscount | Pym, Francis | Wright, Esmond |
| Lancaster, Col. C. G. | Quennell, Miss J. M. | Wylie, N. R. |
| Lane, David | Renton, Rt. Hn. Sir David | Younger, Hn. George |
| Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry | Rhys Williams, Sir Brandon | |
| Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) | Ridley, Hn. Nicholas | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
| Lloyd,Rt.Hn.Geoffrey(Sut'nC'dfield) | Ridsdale, Julian | Mr Timothy Kitson and Bernard Weatherill. |
| Rodger's, Sir John (Sevenoaks) |
§ Mr. Deputy SpeakerIf it is for the convenience of the House, I will put the outstanding Amendments to Part II en bloc.
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Amendments made: No. 87, in page 28, line 14, at end insert:
'such powers and duties as may be determined by or under the order, being';
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No. 88, in line 20, leave out ' any ' and insert:
'all such persons as may be determined by or under the order, being';
§
No. 89, in line 25, leave out ' 8th December 19(57' and insert:
'the identifying date aforesaid';
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No. 512, in line 35, at end insert:
(aa) for the assumption by any council such as is mentioned in subsection (l)(a)(i) of this section and by the Executive of such liabilities to one another as may be determined by or under the order to be appropriate having re-
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gard to the financial arrangements of that council before the severance of the undertaking so mentioned from the other activities of that council;
§
No. 90, in page 29, line 14, leave out '8th December 1967' and insert:
'the identifying date referred to in the said subsection (l)(a)';
§ No. 91, in line 22, leave out 'and' and insert ' (c)';
§ No. 92, in line 24, leave out ' any such resumption' and insert ' the order '.—[Mr. Swingler.]