§ It shall be the duty of the Corporation, in formulating any recommendations to the Minister relating to the activities that have fallen to be carried on under their ultimate control whether by way of conclusions reported to the Minister under Section 4 of this Act or otherwise and in carrying on those activities, to have regard to the advantages of preserving the good will attached to the names and trademarks of the companies specified in Schedule 1 to this Act and of their subsidiaries.—[Mr. J. H. Osborn.]
§ Brought up, and read the First time.
§ 9.0 p.m.
§ Mr. J. H. OsbornI beg to move, That the Clause be read a Second time.
I am greatly encouraged by the change of heart of the Government, and because of that I shall endeavour to be brief. Perhaps that will encourage the Minister to be generous. Although the Clause may not mean very much to us it is vital to those who have charge of the destiny of the steel industry when it is nationalised. The Minister has implied that I 771 might have a bias towards the private sector because of my interest in it. I hope that he will have realised by now—especially from my comments last night—that I am anxious that the Corporation should be a success and that it should take whatever decisions are necessary to ensure a healthy, successful and prosperous industry.
I also assure the Minister that any member of the private sector who will be competing against the public sector will hope that the Minister will accept the Clause or the sentiments behind it, because if the Corporation were too rapidly to abandon trade marks and names which have become well-established, the customers of the Corporation, whether at home or overseas, would become restless and look elsewhere. It would be a disaster if, within a few weeks of vesting date, we found that all the trade names were amalgamated under specifications starting with National Steel Corporation Specification No. 1 and that if a person wanted some bonded or coated steel he had to ask for N.S.C.S. No. 503. If that system were put into practice it would mean that we had completely failed to sense the demands of customers, and it would absolutely wreck not only part of the home trade, but certainly the export trade of this valuable industry.
The Benson Report refers on pages 28 and 29 to the export trade and it is estimated that by the mid-1970s the gross exports will be 5.4 million ingot tons and that net exports will be 4.2 million ingot tons. These estimates may have to be revised, but unless the Corporation sells with delicacy those forecasts will never be achieved.
It is worth considering how we sell steel, and what methods are applied. There may be a difference between selling bulk steels and special steels such as alloy, tool, and heat resisting steels, many of which are made by the private sector, but I have emphasised before, and I do so again, that a technical salesman must find out what the customer wants. The customer will have the specification. He wants to know what the heat treatment will be, or what kind of finish the product will have. When the customer knows what he wants he usually settles on a brandname that gives it to him 772 and thereafter he finds that he can have consistency in his machine shop or engineering shop.
One may ask how a customer identifies his requirements. There are many national and international specifications which may be used. I always keep in my diary a list of specifications used by the company with which I am associated, but correlated to the specifications of EN, Aircraft D.T.D., British Standards, and S.A.E., and sometimes the company's specification is related to national or international standards.
I do not want to digress too far, but the customer—either the engineer or the technician—will usually refer to an international specification when defining what he wants and tell the supplier or the steel manufacturer, but the steel manufacturer also has specifications of his own relating to various well-known trade marks. I have a list here of some of the names. There is Stelvetite, Dragonite, Silverfox and Fortiweld—all names well known by customers. I suggest that the importance of goodwill cannot be measured or quantified. Over the years, companies have made reputations for specialities like steel erecting, fencing, coated steel sheets, and steel work. All this may be kept, or lost within one vast organisation, unless the principle of the Clause is preserved in practice, whether it is accepted in the Bill or not.
I suggest that the Minister's interests must rest with this principle and I hope that the generosity which he showed before will be repeated—
§ Mr. OsbornI see the Minister shaking his head, but I hope that he will justify that view. Unless he accepts the sentiments behind the new Clause, the Corporation will have difficulty in selling at home, but more particularly overseas. This is an important new Clause and I hope that the Minister will change his mind and accept it.
§ Mr. FreesonI accept the hon. Member's sentiments. We have a great deal of sympathy with the object of the new Clause and recognise that considerable commercial goodwill is attached to the names of the present companies. It is not just a historic goodwill but is associated with the quality of the product and related 773 to certain company names. There is no doubt that this would be as important an asset after nationalisation as before. We recognise also that, as a result of the associations with names over many years, a considerable loyalty to particular companies and groups has grown up.
These are particularly powerful considerations, which is why I begun by saying that we accept the sentiments expressed. They will no doubt influence the Corporation in its conduct of affairs and will be borne very much in mind by it when deciding how the public sector is to be organised. However, we cannot accept that this kind of provision should be written into a Bill. It does not require statutory expression. There might be situations in which it would be unfortunate to have such a requirement in the Bill, in view of the wide options which must be maintained in the Organising Committee to decide how it recommends future organisation of the industry.
Recommendations on the new framework might cut across the legislative insistence on retaining certain names. One must balance the two things fairly equally and leave it open for the Organising Committee. We are certain that the Corporation will have great regard to the considerations involved. However, the new Clause, if accepted, would merely be a declaration. It could not be particularly effective in organisation.
They are not the only considerations. I have indicated that there are others—those of loyalty and commercial goodwill associated with quality. Matters of organisation are ahead of us. The industry is to undergo major changes in this respect and it is well known that various concerns in the industry are already organised in different ways. They may be restructured according to the future grouping of the industry and it would be difficult to insist, by law, in these circumstances on the retention of names of particular concerns which were restructured to fit in with the recommendations of the Organising Committee.
Although we accept, in association with this idea, the need to maintain the vitality of what one would rightly describe as subordinate units of the industry, we must leave it open to central advisory authority, the Organising Committee, to make structural recommendations, which 774 will be decided upon, and upon which the Corporation will go about organising the industry. It is widely agreed—this has been referred to time and time again during the past two days, and I have no doubt it was referred to time and time again in Committee—that the nationalised steel industry will have to be reorganised into a smaller number of large groups. There may be differences as to the precise number, but this will undoubtedly be the future of the industry.
As I have said, some of these groupings are likely to cut across the existing pattern of organisation with which names of particular companies are associated.
I do not propose to deal with what might come out of the report which the Organising Committee will put to the Minister, and consequently to Parliament, but this is undoubtedly a consideration which we shall have to bear in mind. It may be that in the future, when the reputation of the National Steel Corporation is established, the Corporation will wish to trade under its own name. It is true that there is nothing in the Amendment which would prevent this, but there seems to be little point in inserting into the Bill a provision which may become less and less appropriate as circumstances change in the future history of the industry.
For these reasons, which I hope I have put fairly, I hope that the hon. Member will not press the point he has made.
§ Mr. BarberThis is for me a very sad moment because, after all the strictures which I heaped upon the hon. Gentleman the Parliamentary Secretary in a previous speech, listening to him winding up the discussion on this Clause, it was my intention to make a nice conciliatory speech, a few happy observations, and to congratulate him. But, alas, I cannot do so. I will say in his favour that he has dealt with the points raised by my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Hallam (Mr. J. H. Osborn) in moving this new Clause, but the arguments which he adduced do not carry conviction. He said, on the one hand, that the new Clause would be completely ineffective, and then he said that it would be insistence by law. He cannot have it both ways. The truth is that there would be, to use his phrase, no insistence by law if the Clause were to be carried.
775 The Clause would lay upon the Corporation a duty in making recommendations to the Minister merely to have regard to the advantages of preserving the goodwill attached to the names and trademarks of the companies. That is not asking for a great deal. The Minister and the Corporation, at the end of the day, can make their decision, and they are fettered only to the extent that they must have regard to those advantages,
§ which are accepted by the Parliamentary Secretary on behalf of the Government.
§ I found his reply singularly unconvincing, but it is quite obvious that we shall not make any progress by pursuing the matter further. Therefore, I ask my right hon. and hon. Friends to support my hon. Friend by voting in the Lobby.
§ Question put, That the Clause be read a Second time:—
§ The House divided: Ayes. 228, Noes 301.
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| Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash) | Forrest, George | Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry |
| Allason, James (Hemel Hempstead) | Fortescue, Tim | Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) |
| Astor, John | Foster, Sir John | Lloyd, Ian (P'tsm'th, Langstone) |
| Atkins, Humphrey (M't'n & M'd'n) | Fraser, Rt. Hn. Hugh (St'fford & Stone) | Lloyd, Rt. Hn. Selwyn (Wirral) |
| Awdry, Daniel | Galbraith, Hn. T. G. | Longden, Gilbert |
| Baker, W. H. K. | Gibson-Watt, David | Loveys, W. H. |
| Balniel, Lord | Giles, Rear-Adm. Morgan | McAdden, Sir Stephen |
| Barber, Bt. Hn. Anthony | Gilmour, Ian (Norfolk, C.) | MacArthur, Ian |
| Batsford, Brian | Gilmour, Sir John (Fife, E.) | Maclean, Sir Fitzroy |
| Beamish, Col. Sir Tufton | Glover, Sir Douglas | Macleod, Rt. Hn. Iain |
| Bell, Ronald | Glyn, Sir Richard | Macmillan, Maurice (Farnham) |
| Berry, Hn. Anthony | Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B. | Maddan, Martin |
| Biffen, John | Goodhart, Philip | Maginnis, John E. |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Goodhew, Victor | Marples, Rt. Hn. Ernest |
| Black, Sir Cyril | Grant, Anthony | Marten, Neil |
| Blaker, Peter | Grant-Ferris, R. | Maude, Angus |
| Body, Richard | Gresham Cooke, R. | Maudling, Rt. Hn. Reginald |
| Bossom, Sir Clive | Grieve, Percy | Mawby, Ray |
| Boyd-Carpenter, Rt Hn. John | Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds) | Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J. |
| Boyle, Rt. Hn. Sir Edward | Gurden, Harold | Mills, Peter (Torrington) |
| Braine, Bernard | Hall, John (Wycombe) | Mills, Stratton (Belfast, N.) |
| Brinton, Sir Tatton | Hall-Davis, A. G. F. | Miscampbell, Norman |
| Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | Hamilton, Marquess of (Fermanagh) | Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) |
| Bruce-Gardyne, J. | Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | Monro, Hector |
| Bryan, Paul | Harris, Reader (Heston) | More, Jasper |
| Buchanan-Smith, Alick (Angus, N&M) | Harrison, Brian (Maldon) | Morgan, Geraint (Denbigh) |
| Buck, Antony (Colchester) | Harrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye) | Morrison, Charles (Devizes) |
| Bullus, Sir Eric | Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere | Mott-Radclyffe, Sir Charles |
| Burden, F. A. | Harvie Anderson, Miss | Munro-Lucas-Tooth, Sir Hugh |
| Campbell, Gordon | Hastings, Stephen | Murton, Oscar |
| Carlisle, Mark | Hawkins, Paul | Neave, Airey |
| Cary, Sir Robert | Hay, John | Nicholls, Sir Harmar |
| Channon, H. P. G. | Heath, Rt. Hn. Edward | Nott, John |
| Chichester-Clark, R. | Heseltine, Michael | Onslow, Cranley |
| Clark, Henry | Higgins, Terence L. | Orr, Capt. L. P. S. |
| Clegg, Walter | Hill, J. E. B. | Orr-Ewing, Sir Ian |
| Cooke, Robert | Hirst, Geoffrey | Osborn, John (Hallam) |
| Cooper-Key, Sir Neill | Hobson, Rt. Hn. Sir John | Osborne, Sir Cyril (Louth) |
| Costain, A. P. | Hogg, Rt. Hn. Quintin | Page, Graham (Crosby) |
| Craddock, Sir Beresford (Spelthorne) | Holland, Philip | Page, John (Harrow, W.) |
| Crawley, Aldan | Hooson, Emlyn | Pardoe, John |
| Crosthwaite-Eyre, Sir Oliver | Hordern, Peter | Pearson, Sir Frank (Clitheroe) |
| Crouch, David | Hornby, Richard | Peel, John |
| Crowder, F. P. | Howell, David (Guildford) | Percival, Ian |
| Cunningham, Sir Knox | Hunt, John | Peyton, John |
| Currie, G. B. H. | Hutchison, Michael Clark | Pike, Miss Mervyn |
| Dalkeith, Earl of | Iremonger, T. L. | Pink, R. Bonner |
| Dance, James | Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) | Pounder, Rafton |
| Davidson, James(Aberdeenshire, W.) | Jenkin, Patrick (Woodford) | Powell, Rt. Hn. J. Enoch |
| Dean, Paul (Somerset, N.) | Jennings, J. C. (Burton) | Price, David (Eastleigh) |
| Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F. (Ashford) | Johnson Smith, G. (E. Grinstead) | Prior, J. M. L. |
| Digby, Simon Wingfield | Jones, Arthur (Northants, S.) | Quennell, Miss J. M. |
| Dodds-Parker, Douglas | Jopling, Michael | Ramsden, Rt. Hn. James |
| Doughty, Charles | Joseph, Rt. Hn. Sir Keith | Rawlinson, Rt. Hn. Sir Peter |
| Douglas-Home, Rt. Hn. Sir Alec | Kershaw, Anthony | Rees-Davies, W. Ft. |
| Drayson, C. B. | Kimball, Marcus | Renton, Rt. Hn. Sir David |
| du Cann, Rt. Hn. Edward | King, Evelyn (Dorset, S.) | Ridley, Hn. Nicholas |
| Eden, Sir John | Kirk, Peter | Ridsdale, Julian |
| Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton) | Kitson, Timothy | Roots, William |
| Elliott, R.W.(N'c'tle-upon-Tyne, N.) | Knight, Mrs. Jill | Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) |
| Farr, John | Lambton, Viscount | Royle, Anthony |
| Fisher, Nigel | Lancaster, Col. C. G. | Russell, Sir Ronald |
| Fletcher-Cooke, Charles | Langford-Holt, sir John | St. John-Stevas, Norman |
| Scott, Nicholas | Thatcher, Mrs. Margaret | wells, John (Maidstone) |
| Sharples, Richard | Tilney, John | Whitelaw, Rt. Hn. William |
| Shaw, Michael (Sc'b'gh & Whitby) | Turton, Rt. Hn. R. H. | Wills, Sir Gerald (Bridgwater) |
| Sinclair, Sir George | van Straubenzee, W. R. | Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro) |
| Smith, John | Vaughan-Morgan, Rt. Hn. Sir John | Winstanley, Dr. M. P. |
| Stainton, Keith | Vickers, Dame Joan | Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick |
| Steel, David (Roxburgh) | Wainwright, Richard (Colne Valley) | Wood, Rt. Hn. Richard |
| Stodart, Anthony | Walker, Peter (Worcester) | Woodnutt, Mark |
| Summers, Sir Spencer | Walker-Smith, Rt. Hn. Sir Derek | Worsley, Marcus |
| Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne) | Wall, Patrick | Wylie, N. R. |
| Taylor, Edward M.(G'gow, Cathcart) | Walters, Dennis | Younger, Hn. George |
| Taylor, Frank (Moss Side) | Ward, Dame Irene | |
| Teeling, Sir William | Weatherill, Bernard | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Temple, John M. | Webster, David | Mr. Pym and Mr. Eyre. |
| NOES | ||
| Ahse, Leo | Dewar, Donald | Hunter, Adam |
| Albu, Austen | Diamond, Rt. Hn. John | Irvine, A. J. (Edge Hill) |
| Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) | Dickens, James | Jackson, Peter M. (High Peak) |
| Alldritt, Walter | Dobson, Ray | Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas |
| Allen, Scholefield | Doig, Peter | Jeger, George (Goole) |
| Anderson, Donald | Driberg, Tom | Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) |
| Archer, Peter | Dunn, James A. | Johnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.) |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Dunnett, Jack | Johnson, James (K'ston-on-Hull, W |
| Atkins, Ronald (Preston, N.) | Dunwoody, Mrs. Gwyneth (Exeter) | Jones, Rt. Hn. Sir Elwyn (W. Ham, S.) |
| Atkinson, Norman (Tottenham) | Dunwoody, Dr. John (F'th & C'b'e) | Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham) |
| Bacon, Rt. Hn. Alice | Eadie, Alex | Judd, Frank |
| Bagier, Cordon A. T. | Edelman, Maurice | Kelley, Richard |
| Barnett, Joel | Edwards, Rt. Hn. Ness (Caerphilly) | Kenyon, Clifford |
| Beaney, Alan | Edwards, Robert (Bilston) | Kerr, Dr. David (W'worth, Central) |
| Bence, Cyril | Edwards, William (Merioneth) | Lawson, George |
| Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony Wedgwood | Ellis, John | Leadbitter, Ted |
| Bennett, James (G'gow, Bridgeton) | English, Michael | Ledger, Ron |
| Bidwell, Sydney | Ennals, David | Lee, Rt. Hn. Frederick (Newton) |
| Binns, John | Ensor, David | Lee, John (Reading) |
| Bishop, E. S. | Evans, Albert (Islington, S.W.) | Lestor, Miss Joan |
| Blackburn, F. | Evans, loan L. (Birm'h'm, Yardley) | Lever, Harold (Cheetham) |
| Blenkinsop, Arthur | Fernyhough, E | Lewis, Arthur (W. Ham, N.) |
| Boardman, H. | Fitch, Alan (Wigan) | Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) |
| Booth, Albert | Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) | Lipton, Marcus |
| Boston, Terence | Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | Lomas, Kenneth |
| Bottomley, Rt. Hn. Arthur | Foley, Maurice | Loughlin, Charles |
| Boyden, James | Foot, Sir Dingle (Ipswich) | Luard, Evan |
| Braddock, Mrs. E. M. | Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale) | Lyon, Alexander W. (York) |
| Bradley, Tom | Ford, Ben | Lyons, Edward (Bradford, E.) |
| Bray, Dr. Jeremy | Forrester, John | Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson |
| Brooks, Edwin | Fowler, Gerry | McBride, Neil |
| Broughton, Dr. A. D. D. | Fraser, John (Norwood) | McCann, John |
| Brown, Rt. Hn. George (Belper) | Fraser, Rt. Hn. Tom (Hamilton) | MacColl, James |
| Brown, Hugh D. (G'gow, Provan) | Freeson, Reginald | MacDermot, Niall |
| Brown, Bob(N'c'tle-upon-Tyne, W.) | Galpern, Sir Myer | Macdonald, A. H. |
| Brown, R. W. (Shoreditch & F'bury) | Gardner, Tony | McGuire, Michael |
| Buchan, Norman | Garrett, W. E. | McKay, Mrs. Margaret |
| Buchanan, Richard (G'gow, Sp'burn) | Ginsburg, David | Mackenzie, Gregor (Ruthergien) |
| Butler, Herbert (Hackney, C.) | Gordon Walker, Rt. Hn. P. C. | Mackie, John |
| Butler, Mrs. Joyce (Wood Green) | Gray, Dr. Hugh (Yarmouth) | Mackintosh, John P. |
| Callaghan, Rt. Hn. James | Greenwood, Rt. Hn. Anthony | Maclennan, Robert |
| Cant, R. B. | Gregory, Arnold | MacMillan, Malcolm (Western Isles) |
| Carmichael, Neil | Griffiths, Rt. Hn. James (Llanelly) | McMillan, Tom (Glasgow, C.) |
| Carter-Jones, Lewis | Gunter, Rt. Hn. R. J. | McNamara, J. Kevin |
| Chapman, Donald | Hale, Leslie (Oldham, W.) | MacPherson, Malcolm |
| Coe, Denis | Hamilton, James (Bothwell) | Mahon, Peter (Preston, S.) |
| Coleman, Donald | Hamling, William | Mahon, Simon (Bootle) |
| Concannon, J. D. | Hannan, William | Mallalieu, E. L. (Brigg) |
| Contan, Bernard | Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) | Mallalieu, J.P.W.(Huddersfield, E.) |
| Corbet, Mrs. Freda | Hart, Mrs. Judith | Manuel, Archie |
| Craddock, George (Bradford, S.) | Haseldine, Norman | Mapp, Charles |
| Crawshaw, Richard | Hattersley, Roy | Marquand, David |
| Cronin, John | Hazell, Bert | Marsh, Rt. Hn. Richard |
| Crosland, Rt. Hn. Anthony | Heffer, Eric S. | Mason, Roy |
| Crossman, Rt. Hn. Richard | Henig, Stanley | Mayhew, Christopher |
| Cullen, Mrs. Alice | Herbison, Rt. Hn. Margaret | Mellish, Robert |
| Dalyell, Tam | Hilton, W. S. | Mendelson, J. J. |
| Darling, Rt. Hn. George | Hobden, Dennis (Brighton, K'town) | Mikardo, Ian |
| Davidson, Arthur (Accrington) | Hooley, Frank | Millan, Bruce |
| Davies, Dr Ernest (Stretford) | Horner, John | Milne, Edward (Elyth) |
| Davies, G. Elfed (Rhondda, E.) | Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas | Mitchell, R. C. (S'th'pton, Test) |
| Davies, Harold (Leek) | Howarth, Harry (Wellingborough) | Molloy, William |
| Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Howarth, Robert (Bolton, E.) | Moonman, Eric |
| Davies, Robert (Cambridge) | Howie, W. | Morgan, Elystan (Cardiganshire) |
| Davies, S. 0. (Merthyr) | Hoy, James | Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) |
| Delargy, Hugh | Hughes, Rt. Hn. cledwyn (Anglesey) | Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) |
| Dell, Edmund | Hughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N.) | Murray, Albert |
| Dempsey, James | Hughes, Roy (Newport) | Neal, Harold |
| Newens, Stan | Roberts, Gwilym (Bedfordshire, S.) | Tinn, James |
| Norwood, Christopher | Robertson, John (Paisley) | Tomney, Frank |
| Oakes, Gordon | Robinson, Rt. Hn. Kennet(St. P'c' as) | Tuck, Raphael |
| Oram, Albert E. | Robinson, W. O. J. (Walth'stow, E.) | Urwin, T. W. |
| Orbach, Maurice | Rodgers, William (Stockton) | Varley, Eric G. |
| Orme, Stanley | Roebuck, Roy | Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne Valley) |
| Oswald, Thomas | Rogers, George (Kensington, N.) | Walden, Brian (All Saints) |
| Owen, Dr. David (Plymouth, S'tn) | Rose, Paul | Walker, Harold (Doncaster) |
| Owen, Will (Morpeth) | Ross, Rt. Hn. William | Wallace, George |
| Palmer, Arthur | Rowland, Christopher (Meriden) | Watkins, David (Consett) |
| Panneli, Rt. Hn. Charles | Rowlands, E. (Cardiff, N.) | Watkins, Tudor (Brecon & Radnor) |
| Park, Trevor | Ryan, John | Weitzman, David |
| Parker, John (Dagenham) | Shaw, Arnold (llford, S.) | Wellbeloved, James |
| Parkyn, Brian (Bedford) | Sheldon, Robert | Whitaker, Ben |
| Pavitt, Laurence | Shinwell, Rt. Hn. E. | White, Mrs. Eirene |
| Pearson, Arthur (Pontypridd) | Shore, Peter (Stepney) | Whitlock, William |
| Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred | Short, Rt. Hn. Edward(N'c'stle-u-Tyne) | Wigg, Rt. Hn. George |
| Pentland, Norman | Short, Mrs. Renée(W'hampton, N.E.) | Wilkins, W. A. |
| Perry, Ernest G. (Battersea, S.) | Silkin, Rt. Hn. John (Deptford) | Williams, Alan (Swansea, W.) |
| Perry, George H. (Nottingham, S.) | Silkin, Hn. S. C. (Dulwich) | Williams, Alan Lee (Hornchurch) |
| Prentice, Rt. Hn. R. E. | Silverman, Julius (Aston) | Williams, Clifford (Abertillery) |
| Price, Christopher (Perry Barr) | Silverman, Sydney (Nelson) | Williams, Mrs. Shirley (Hitchin) |
| Price, Thomas (Westhoughton) | Skeffington, Arthur | Williams, W. T. (Warrington) |
| Price, William (Rugby) | Slater, Joseph | Willis, George (Edinburgh, E.) |
| Probert, Arthur | Small, William | Wilson, Rt. Hn. Harold (Huyton) |
| Pursey, Cmdr. Harry | Snow, Julian | Wilson, William (Coventry, S.) |
| Randall, Harry | Spriggs, Leslie | Winnick, David |
| Rankin, John | Steele, Thomas (Dunbartonshire,W.) | Woodbum, Rt. Hn. A. |
| Redhead, Edward | Strauss, Rt. Hn. G. R. | Woof, Robert |
| Reynolds, G. W. | Taverne, Dick | Wyatt, Woodrow |
| Rhodes, Geoffrey | Thomas, George (Cardiff, W.) | Yates, Victor |
| Roberts, Albert (Normanton) | Thomson, Rt. Hn. George | |
| Roberts, Goronwy (Caernarvon) | Thornton, Ernest | TELLERS FOR THE NOES |
| Mr. Harper and Mr. Grey. |