§ Order read for resuming adjourned debate on Amendment to Question [18th May], That the Bill be now read a Second time.
§
Which Amendment was, to leave out from "That" to the end of the Question and to add instead thereof:
this House declines to give a Second Reading to a Bill which seeks to make provision for
§ using £366 million of the taxpayers' money for the purpose of meeting the deficits of the British Railways Board and the London Transport Board for the period ending on 31st December, 1968, when the Government have failed to provide the House with details of their future transport policy, have failed to take the necessary action to reduce the deficits of the two Boards and are now seeking to make grants of a size which indicates that they anticipate further increases in the deficits of the two Boards".
§ Question again proposed, That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question.
§ Debate resumed—
§ Question put:—
§ The House divided: Ayes 313; Noes 210.
1713| Division No. 14.] | AYES | [10.13 p.m. |
| Abse, Leo | Barnett, Joel | Boyden, James |
| Albu, Austen | Bence, Cyril | Braddock, Mrs. E. M. |
| Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) | Benn, Rt. Hn. Anthony Wedgwood | Bray, Dr. Jeremy |
| Alldritt, Walter | Bessell, Peter | Brooks, Edwin |
| Allen, Scholefield | Bidwell, Sydney | Broughton, Dr. A. D. D. |
| Anderson, Donald | Binns, John | Brown, Hugh D. (G'gow, Provan) |
| Archer, Peter | Bishop, E. S. | Brown, Bob (N'c'tle-upon-Tyne, W) |
| Armstrong, Ernest | Blackburn, F. | Brown, R. W. (Shoreditch & F'bury) |
| Ashley, Jack | Blenkinsop, Arthur | Buchan, Norman |
| Atkins, Ronald (Preston, N.) | Boardman, H. | Buchanan, Richard (G'gow, Sp'burn) |
| Atkinson, Norman (Tottenham) | Booth, Albert | Butler, Herbert (Hackney, C.) |
| Bacon, Rt. Hn. Alice | Boston, Terence | Butler, Mrs. Joyce (Wood Green) |
| Bagier, Gordon A. T. | Bottomley, Rt. Hn. Arthur | Cant, R. B. |
| Barnes, Michael | Bowden, Rt. Hn. Herbert | Carmichael, Neil |
| Carter-Jones, Lewis | Howarth, Robert (Bolton, E.) | Oakes, Gordon |
| Castle, Rt. Hn. Barbara | Howell, Denis (Small Heath) | Ogden, Eric |
| Chapman, Donald | Howie, W. | O'Malley, Brian |
| Coe, Denis | Hoy, James | Oram, Albert E. |
| Coleman, Donald | Hughes, Rt. Hn. Cledwyn (Anglesey) | Orbach, Maurice |
| Concannon, J. D. | Hughes, Emrys (Ayrshire, S.) | Orme, Stanley |
| Conlan, Bernard | Hughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N.) | Oswald, Thomas |
| Corbet, Mrs. Freda | Hughes, Roy (Newport) | Owen, Dr. David (Plymouth, S'tn) |
| Craddock, George (Bradford, S.) | Hunter, Adam | Owen, Will (Morpeth) |
| Crawshaw, Richard | Hynd, John | Page, Derek (King's Lynn) |
| Cronin, John | Irvine, A. J. (Edge Hill) | Paget, R. T. |
| Crosland, Rt. Hn. Anthony | Jackson, Peter M. (High Peak) | Palmer, Arthur |
| Crossman, Rt. Hn. Richard | Janner, Sir Barnett | Pannell, Rt. Hn. Charles |
| Dalyell, Tam | Jay, Rt. Hn. Douglas | Pardoe, J. |
| Davidson, Arthur (Accrington) | Jeger, Mrs. Lena (H'b'n & St. P'cras, S.) | Park, Trevor |
| Davies, Dr. Ernest (Stratford) | Jenkins, Hugh (Putney) | Parker, John (Dagenham) |
| Davies, G. Elfed (Rhondda, E.) | Johnson, Carol (Lewisham, S.) | Parkyn, Brian (Bedford) |
| Davies, Ednyfed Hudson (Conway) | Johnson, James (K'ston-on-Hull, W.) | Pavitt, Laurence |
| Davies, Harold (Leek) | Jones, Dan (Burnley) | Pearson, Arthur (Pontypridd) |
| Davies, Ifor (Gower) | Jones, Rt. Hn. Sir Elwyn (W. Ham, S.) | Peart, Rt. Hn. Fred |
| Davies, Robert (Cambridge) | Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham) | Pentland, Norman |
| Delargy, Hugh | Judd, Frank | Perry, Ernest G. (Battersea, S.) |
| Dell, Edmund | Kenyon, Clifford | Perry, George H. (Nottingham, S.) |
| Dewar, Donald | Kerr, Mrs. Anne (R'ter & Chatham) | Prentice, Rt. Hn. R. E. |
| Diamond, Rt. Hn. John | Kerr, Dr. David (W'worth, Central) | Price, Christopher (Perry Barr) |
| Dickens, James | Kerr, Russell (Feltham) | Price, Thomas (Westhoughton) |
| Dobson, Ray | Lawson, George | Price, William (Rugby) |
| Doig, Peter | Leadbitter, Ted | Pursey, Cmdr. Harry |
| Donnelly, Desmond | Ledger, Ron | Rankin, John |
| Dunn, James A. | Lee, Rt. Hn. Frederick (Newton) | Redhead, Edward |
| Dunnett, Jack | Lee, Miss Jennie (Cannock) | Rees, Merlyn |
| Dunwoody, Mrs. Gwyneth (Exeter) | Lee, John (Reading) | Reynolds, G. W. |
| Dunwoody, Dr. John (F'th & C'b'e) | Lestor, Miss Joan | Rhodes, Geoffrey |
| Eadie, Alex | Lever, L. M. (Ardwick) | Richard, Ivor |
| Edelman, Maurice | Lewis, Arthur (W. Ham, N.) | Roberts, Albert (Normanton) |
| Edwards, Robert (Bilston) | Roberts, Goronwy (Caernarvon) | |
| Edwards, William (Merioneth) | Lewis, Ron (Carlisle) | Roberts, Gwilym (Bedfordshire, S.) |
| Ellis, John | Lipton, Marcus | Robertson, John (Paisley) |
| English, Michael | Lomas, Kenneth | Robinson, Rt. Hn. Kenneth (St. P'c'as) |
| Ennals, David | Loughlin, Charles | Robinson, W. O. J. (Walth'stow, E.) |
| Ensor, David | Luard, Evan | Rodgers, William (Stockton) |
| Evans, Albert (Islington, S. W.) | Lubbock, Eric | Roebuck, Roy |
| Evans, Ioan L. (Birm'h'm, Yardley) | Lyon, Alexander W. (York) | Rogers, George |
| Faulds, Andrew | Lyons, Edward (Bradford, E.) | Rose, Paul |
| Fernyhough, E. | McBride, Neil | Ross, Rt. Hn. William |
| Fletcher, Raymond (Ilkeston) | McCann, John | Rowland, Christopher (Meriden) |
| Fletcher, Ted (Darlington) | MacColl, James | Rowlands, E. (Cardiff, N.) |
| Floud, Bernard | MacDermot, Niall | Ryan, John |
| Foley, Maurice | Macdonald, A. H. | Shaw, Arnold (Ilford, S.) |
| Foot, Sir Dingle (Ipswich) | McGuire, Michael | Shore, Peter (Stepney) |
| Foot, Michael (Ebbw Vale) | McKay, Mrs. Margaret | Short, Rt. Hn. Edward(N'c'tle-u-Tyne) |
| Ford, Ben | Mackenzie, Gregor (Ruthergien) | Short, Mrs. Renée (W'hampton, N.E.) |
| Forrester, John | Mackie, John | Silkin, John (Deptford) |
| Fowler, Gerry | Mackintosh, John P. | Silkin, S. C. (Dulwich) |
| Fraser, John (Norwood) | Maclennan, Robert | Silverman, Julius (Aston) |
| Fraser, Rt. Hn. Tom (Hamilton) | McNamara, J. Kevin | Skeffington, Arthur |
| Galpern, Sir Myer | MacPherson, Malcolm | Slater, Joseph |
| Gardner, A. J. | Mahon, Peter (Preston, S.) | Small, William |
| Garrow, Alex | Mahon, Simon (Bootle) | Snow, Julian |
| Ginsburg, David | Mallalieu, J. P. W. (Huddersfield, E.) | Spriggs, Leslie |
| Gordon Walker, Rt. Hn. P. C. | Manuel, Archie | Steele, Thomas (Dunbartonshire, W.) |
| Gray, Dr. Hugh | Mapp, Charles | Stonehouse, John |
| Greenwood, Rt. Hn. Anthony | Marquand, David | Strauss, Rt. Hn. G. R. |
| Gregory, Arnold | Marsh, Rt. Hn. Richard | Summerskill, Hn. Dr. Shirley |
| Grey, Charles | Mason, Roy | Swain, Thomas |
| Griffiths, David (Rother Valley) | Maxwell, Robert | Swingler, Stephen |
| Griffiths, Rt. Hn. James (Llanelly) | Mayhew, Christopher | Symonds, J. B. |
| Griffiths, Will (Exchange) | Mellish, Robert | Taverns, Dick |
| Gunter, Rt. Hn. R. J. | Mendelson, J. J. | Thomas, George (Cardiff, W.) |
| Hale, Leslie (Oldham, W.) | Mikardo, Ian | Thomas, Iorwerth (Rhondda, W.) |
| Hamilton, James (Bothwell) | Millan, Bruce | Thorpe, Jeremy |
| Hamilton, William (Fife, W.) | Miller, Dr. M. S. | Tinn, James |
| Hamling, William | Mitchell, R. C. (S'th'pton, Test) | Tomney, Frank |
| Hannan, William | Moonman, Eric | Urwin, T. W. |
| Harrison, Walter (Wakefield) | Morgan, Elystan (Cardiganshire) | Varley, Eric G. |
| Hart, Mrs. Judith | Morris, Alfred (Wythenshawe) | Wainwright, Edwin (Dearne Valley) |
| Haseldine, Norman | Morris, Charles R. (Openshaw) | Wainwright, Richard (Coine Valley) |
| Hattersley, Roy | Morris, John (Aberavon) | Walker, Harold (Doncaster) |
| Hazell, Bert | Moyle, Roland | Wallace, George |
| Heffer, Eric S. | Mulley, Rt. Hn. Frederick | Watkins, David (Consett) |
| Henig, Stanley | Murray, Albert | Watkins, Tudor (Brecon & Radnor) |
| Herbison, Rt. Hn. Margaret | Newens, Stan | Weitzman, David |
| Hobden, Dennis (Brighton, K'town) | Noel-Baker, Francis (Swindon) | Wellbeloved, James |
| Houghton, Rt. Hn. Douglas | Noel-Baker, Rt. Hn. Philip (Derby, S.) | Wells, William (Walsall, N.) |
| Howarth, Harry (Wellingborough) | Norwood, Christopher | Whitaker, Ben |
| White, Mrs Eirene | Williams, W. T. (Warrington) | Wyatt, Woodrow |
| Whitlock, William | Willis, George (Edinburgh, E.) | Yates, Victor |
| Wigg, Rt. Hn. George | Wilson, William (Coventry, S.) | Zilliacus, K. |
| Willey, Rt. Hn. Frederick | Winnick, David | |
| Williams, Alan (Swansea, W.) | Winstanley, Dr. M. P. | TELLERS FOR THE AYES: |
| Williams, Alan Lee (Hornchurch) | Winterbottom, R. E. | Mr. Fitch and Mr. Harper. |
| Williams, Clifford (Abertillery) | Woodburn, Rt. Hn. A. | |
| NOES | ||
| Alison, Michael (Barkston Ash) | Goodhart, Philip | Mott-Radclyffe, Sir Charles |
| Allason, James (Hemel Hempstead) | Goodhew, Victor | Murton, Oscar |
| Astor, John | Gower, Raymond | Nabarro, Sir Gerald |
| Atkins, Humphrey (M't'n & M'd'n) | Grant, Anthony | Neave, Airey |
| Awdry, Daniel | Gresham Cooke, R. | Nicholls, Sir Harmar |
| Baker, W. H. K. | Grieve, Percy | Noble, Rt. Hn. Michael |
| Balniel, Lord | Griffiths, Eldon (Bury St. Edmunds) | Nott, John |
| Batsford, Brian | Gurden, Harold | Onslow, Cranley |
| Beamish, Col. Sir Tufton | Hall, John (Wycombe) | Orr, Capt. L. P. S. |
| Bell, Ronald | Hall-Davis, A. G. F. | Orr-Ewing, Sir Ian |
| Bennett, Sir Frederic (Torquay) | Hamilton, Michael (Salisbury) | Osborn, John (Hallam) |
| Bennett, Dr. Reginald (Gos & Fhm) | Harris, Reader (Heston) | Page, Graham (Crosby) |
| Berry, Hn. Anthony | Harrison, Brian (Maldon) | Pearson, Sir Frank (Clitheroe) |
| Biffen, John | Harrison, Col. Sir Harwood (Eye) | Peel, John |
| Biggs-Davison, John | Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere | Percival, Ian |
| Birch, Rn. Hn. Nigel | Hawkins, Paul | Peyton, John |
| Black, Sir Cyril | Hay, John | Pike, Miss Mervyn |
| Blaker, Peter | Heald, Rt. Hn. Sir Lionel | Pink, R. Bonner |
| Body, R. | Heseltine, Michael | Powell, Rt. Hn. J. Enoch |
| Bossom, Sir Clive | Higgins, Terence L. | Price, David (Eastleigh) |
| Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hn. J. | Hiley, Joseph | Prior, J. M. L. |
| Braine, Bernard | Hill, J. E. B. | Quennell, Miss J. M. |
| Brewis, John | Hirst, Geoffrey | Ramsden, Rt. Hn. James |
| Brinton, Sir Tatton | Rawlinson, Rt. Hn. Sir Peter | |
| Bromley-Davenport, Lt. Col. Sir Walter | Hobson, Rt. Hn. Sir John | |
| Brown, Sir Edward (Bath) | Hogg, Rt. Hn. Quintin | Rees-Davies, W. R. |
| Bruce-Gardyne, J. | Holland, Philip | Ridley, Hn. Nicholas |
| Bryan, Paul | Hordern, Peter | Ridsdale, Julian |
| Bullus, Sir Eric | Hornby, Richard | Rippon, Rt. Hn. Geoffrey |
| Burden, F. A. | Howell, David (Guildford) | Robson Brown, Sir William |
| Campbell, Gordon | Hunt, John | Roots, William |
| Carlisle, Mark | Hutchison, Michael Clark | Rossi, Hugh (Hornsey) |
| Carr, Rt. Hn. Robert | Iremonger, T. L. | Royle, Anthony |
| Cary, Sir Robert | Jenkin, Patrick (Woodford) | Russell, Sir Ronald |
| Channon, H. P. G. | Jennings, J. C. (Burton) | Sandys, Rt. Hn. D. |
| Chichester-Clark, R. | Johnson Smith, G. (E. Grinstead) | Scott, Nicholas |
| Clegg, Walter | Jones, Arthur (Northants, S.) | Sharples, Richard |
| Cooke, Robert | Jopling, Michael | Shaw, Michael (Sc'b'gh & Whitby) |
| Cooper-Key, Sir Neill | Joseph, Rt. Hn. Sir Keith | Smith, John |
| Cordle, John | Kaberry, Sir Donald | Stainton, Keith |
| Corfield, F. V. | Kershaw, Anthony | Stodart, Anthony |
| Costain, A. P. | Kimball, Marcus | Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir M. (Ripon) |
| Craddock, Sir Beresford (Spelthorne) | King, Evelyn (Dorset, S.) | Summers, Sir Spencer |
| Crawley, Aidan | Kitson, Timothy | Talbot, John E. |
| Crosthwaite-Eyre, Sir Oliver | Knight, Mrs. Jill | Tapsell, Peter |
| Crouch, David | Lancaster, Col. C. G. | Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne) |
| Crowder, F. P. | Langford-Holt, Sir John | Taylor, Frank (Moss Side) |
| Cunningham, Sir Knox | Legge-Bourke, Sir Harry | Teeling, Sir William |
| Dance, James | Lewis, Kenneth (Rutland) | Temple, John M. |
| d'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Sir Henry | Longden, Gilbert | Thatcher, Mrs. Margaret |
| Dean, Paul (Somerset, N.) | Loveys, W. H. | Tilney, John |
| Deedes, Rt. Hn. W. F. (Ashford) | McAdden, Sir Stephen | Turton, Rt. Hn. R. H. |
| Digby, Simon Wingfield | MacArthur, Ian | van Straubenzee, W. R. |
| Dodds-Parker, Douglas | Maclean, Sir Fitzroy | Vaughan-Morgan, Rt. Hn. Sir John |
| Doughty, Charles | McMaster, Stanley | Vickers, Dame Joan |
| Drayson, G. B. | Macmillan, Maurice (Farnham) | Walker, Peter (Worcester) |
| du Cann, Rt. Hn. Edward | Maddan, Martin | Walker-Smith, Rt. Hn. Sir Derek |
| Eden, Sir John | Marples, Rt. Hn. Ernest | Ward, Dame Irene |
| Elliot, Capt. Walter (Carshalton) | Marten, Neil | Weatherill, Bernard |
| Errington, Sir Eric | Mathew, Robert | Webster, David |
| Eyre, Reginald | Maude, Angus | Wells, John (Maidstone) |
| Farr, John | Mawby, Ray | Whitelaw, William |
| Fletcher-Cooke, Charles | Maxwell-Hyslop, R. J. | Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro) |
| Fortescue, Tim | Maydon, Lt.-Cmdr. S. L. C. | Wolrige-Gordon, Patrick |
| Foster, Sir John | Mills, Peter (Torrington) | Wood, Rt. Hn. Richard |
| Galbraith, Hn. T. G. | Mills, Stratton (Belfast, N.) | Woodnutt, Mark |
| Gibson-Watt, David | Miscampbell, Norman | Worsley, Marcus |
| Giles, Rear-Adm. Morgan | Mitchell, David (Basingstoke) | Younger, Hn. George |
| Gilmour, Ian (Norfolk, C.) | Monro, Hector | |
| Glover, Sir Douglas | More, Jasper | TELLERS FOR THE NOES: |
| Glyn, Sir Richard | Morgan, W. G. (Denbigh) | Mr. Pym and Mr. R. W. Elliott. |
| Godber, Rt. Hn. J. B. | Morrison, Charles (Devizes) |
| Bill accordingly read a Second time. |
| Bill committed to a Committee of the whole House.—[Mr. Gourlay] |
| Committee Tomorrow. |