HC Deb 05 March 1958 vol 583 cc1173-82

3.35 p.m.

Mrs. Jean Mann (Coatbridge and Airdrie)

I beg to move, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to amend to sixty pounds the figure of forty pounds in subsection (1) of section eleven of the Rent Act, 1957, in its application to Scotland; to make provision for the modification of certain tenancies of dwelling-houses affected by that amendment; to provide in Scotland for the nomination by local authorities of tenants of dwelling-houses vacated by movements of their former tenants into dwelling-houses provided by local authorities; to continue rent control on such dwelling-houses in Scotland; and for purposes connected with the matters aforesaid. I feel, Sir, like the widow who was getting married for the fourth time and who said that this represented the triumph of hope over experience.

I noticed in my newspaper this morning the latest statement on the iniquitous Rent Act. It came from the Tory lady who represents Kelvingrove—[HON. MEMBERS: "Oh."] I mean the Tory lady who is now standing for election at Kelvingrove. She said: I am rather shocked at what the Rent Act is doing in this constituency. It is having a worse effect than I thought. There ought to be some way in which tenants should have longer leases and more protection. I am trying to ensure that protection by means of this Motion. The Rent Act is the worst Act that has ever emanated from the Tory benches. It will put them out of office not merely at the next Election, but probably for ever. The Act was ill-conceived and it was ill-becoming of the Secretary of State for Scotland blindly to follow the example of England, where housing conditions have always been so much better.

There never was an Act with decontrol contained in it which had not been preceded by a commission of inquiry. The last time decontrol was introduced a commission carried out a searching survey to find what houses were empty and to let. I remember going to that commission, when I was Chairman of Glasgow Housing Committee, to give them the figures of empty houses available for renting in Glasgow. There were over 2,000, and the commission therefore recommended that this category of housing, category B, should be decontrolled. There was great opposition to the decontrol, but these houses were freed from it. Six months later war was declared, and all were taken under the sheltering umbrella of control. This time, the Secretary of State for Scotland has not made the slightest effort to find out whether a single house is available.

The right hon. Gentleman said that one-twelfth of the houses in Scotland will be decontrolled. What abysmal ignorance! We are decontrolling rapidly. He takes credit for the fact that local authorities are providing 32,000 houses per annum. Deducting 8,000 houses for replacing houses in slum clearance areas and those affected by closing orders, that means 24,000 additional houses every year. Now we are to have the spectacle of local authorities feeding the decontrol list willy-nilly. The right hon. Gentleman is completely ignoring the fact that the 24,000 extra houses produced annually by local authorities are furthering decontrol not only in the £40 to £60 rateable value range, but below it, and that that will have its consequences on agreements with landlords.

I am asking that the decontrol stage should be a rateable value of £60 instead of £40. Decontrol is taking place all the time and we are paying very heavily for council houses. Hon. Members opposite take credit for the rapid building in Scotland, but the result is not that there are more houses to be let, but that every house vacated by tenants going to a local authority house is offered for sale. That process plays right into the hands of landlords.

I know that the hon. Member for Scotstoun (Sir J. Hutchison), who is to oppose this Motion, represents an area which largely consists of council houses and I know that many Tories are saying in Kelvingrove that it is unfair that people in Kelvingrove should have to pay such high rates to subsidise council house tenants.

I do not support the actions of spongers, whether in council houses or on the landlord. I believe in everyone paying for his housing accommodation. I have had to do it myself the hard way all the time, but when I was in that position I could have been surrounded by "To Let" boards all over Glasgow. One would have thought that the people in Kelvingrove, who are making such a great contribution to the rates, would at least have the gratification of knowing that when 30,000 tenants moved out every year there would be an equivalent number of houses with "To Let" boards in Kelvingrove and other districts of Glasgow.

It is no good hon. Members opposite saying that landlords have been selling only since the Labour Party published its programme, "Houses for the Future". They have been selling all the time. My hon. Friend the Member for Shettleston (Mr. McGovern) and I raised this matter five years ago. We introduced a Bill then and we have now drafted a Bill to stop the sale of houses, especially those from which the tenant went to local authority houses. It is utter nonsense to say that the sale of these houses started with the threat of the Labour Party programme.

I am not alone in condemning what has been done. The hon. Member for Pollok (Mr. George) has stated that Murray MacGregor's comment on the Minister's statement to landlords was putting a cloak of virtue on all landlords and did not represent a true picture. He said: I know of many cases of great agony of mind among tenants … people have come to me in tears, some because of unreasonable increases in rent, others because they are faced with a buy-or-quit ultimatum. Yet the Secretary of State says that the majority of landlords are acting fairly, and he presents us with another set of "phoney" figures. This week the right hon. Gentleman told us that 3,267 out of a total of 3,310 houses had been relet. Where does he get those figures? The exchanges in council houses in Glasgow are 2,000 a year. Were these relets obligatory?

Mr. Speaker

I very much dislike interrupting the hon. Lady, but I am bound to point out that the Standing Order under which she is operating provides for a short explanatory statement of the proposals of her Bill. I have to draw her attention to that.

Mrs. Mann

I will finish, Sir, by saying that the Secretary of State has long been connected with the Bible Training Institute of Glasgow. I quote: … they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, … but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. I hope that … while the lamp holds out to burn. The vilest sinner may return. and I welcome the Bill.

3.47 p.m.

Sir James Hutchison (Glasgow, Scotstoun)

I rise to ask the House to reject the Motion moved by the hon. Lady the Member for Coatbridge and Airdrie (Mrs. Mann).

I have always admired the hon. Lady's political foresight and imagination. We had a glimpse of her political foresight when she indicated what she thought the result of the Kelvingrove by-election would be, and, indeed, I venture to think that if it had not been for the Kelvin-grove by-election, there would have been no Ten Minutes Rule Bill today. The hon. Lady has let her imagination run riot with a vengeance this afternoon.

I oppose the Motion for two main reasons. First, I do not believe that the Ten Minutes Rule was ever designed for such sweeping and fundamental Amendments to an important Act as the Measure which the right hon. Lady proposes represents. The time and the place for Amendments of this nature is while the Bill is going through the House. I oppose the Motion on the ground that the Ten Minutes Rule is not a satisfactory way to handle questions of this kind.

Secondly, I oppose the Motion because of what it contains. The hon. Lady did not enlighten the House very much about what her proposed Bill contained. Perhaps she will now allow me to do so. She proposes that the level of rateable value for a house to be decontrolled shall be raised from £40 to £60. The question of the level of decontrol was exhaustively examined during the long debates on the Rent Bill. I see no reason why Scotland should have a higher decontrol value than London or the rest of England.

The effect of the hon. Lady's proposal would be to reduce the pool of decontrolled houses from 60,000—which is expected to result if the figure remains at £40—to 6,000 houses. That would clearly make a very severe incursion into the free market in decontrolled houses upon which we set so much store. It would create more demand for a smaller supply of houses and would tend to encourage landlords to sell rather than to let—and I am at one with the hon. Lady in wanting to see more "To Let" boards and fewer "For Sale" boards.

The Bill would make provisions in respect of affected tenancies, but the hon. Lady was silent upon what those provisions would be. She is asking for an extremely blank cheque in asking the House to agree to the introduction of a Bill which will make certain provisions, hitherto unexplained. Some provision would have to be made to set aside the hundreds or thousands of agreements already entered into under the Act, and her proposal would introduce an element of turmoil into the whole housing situation if it tried to set aside those agreements and set the whole Act back. It would be grossly unfair.

The hon. Lady then asks that when a tenant moves from a controlled house to a council house the house from which he moves should come under the control of the local authority. She does not say whether it would be the receiving authority or the local authority in whose area the vacated house stood, but I consider the proposal to be a most undesirable one. The vacated house would remain the property of the landlord, but a local authority—unspecified—would have the right thereafter, in perpetuity, to nominate the tenants to live in that house. The landlord would be responsible for the upkeep of the premises, but he would have no control over the tenancy. The local authority would have power without responsibility, and there would be municipalisation without the burden of upkeep. It is a most unfair, far-reaching and dangerous proposal.

The hon. Lady then proposes that the vacated house should remain controlled. I can understand the arguments adduced in favour of not removing control where a sitting tenant is in a house, but I cannot understand the argument that the decontrol of a house which is vacant, or in which there is no sitting tenant, creates any hardship. The programme she suggests would encourage owners to sell and not to let. Perhaps the hon. Lady also proposes to take away the power to sell.

This is an ingenious Motion, but I wonder whether, behind its ingenuity, there is not some evidence that the party opposite is beginning to realise what a burden its proposals would place upon its own shoulders and, incidentally, the shoulders of the taxpayers and tenants. Under the Labour Party's plan it is certain that most rates, rents and taxes would have to rise, even at the artificially low price which hon. Members opposite propose to pay for the property they municipalise.

It is this sort of threat, aggravated by what the hon. Lady now proposes, which is causing so many evictions. She mentioned the unhappiness she felt at seeing so few "To Let" boards, but it is exactly her party's programme of municipalisation, dictating to landlords and threatening what will happen to their properties, that is causing them to seek to sell instead of to let. Which hon. Member opposite, if he knows that he is to be plundered, will wait calmly? The programme of the party opposite is a programme of plunder. The landlord will sell and he will evict.

The Labour Party has much responsibility for the anxiety through which the country is passing. It failed to build the houses when it had the chance. We have built far greater numbers of houses than the Labour Party ever predicted would be possible, and we are determined to keep houses in repair and put an end to the rotting away of the country's dwelling places, which is the reason for the present unhappiness which exists. I ask the House to reject the Motion.

Mr. Herbert Butler (Hackney, Central)

On a point of order. I understood. Mr. Speaker, that when permission was being asked for the introduction of these Ten Minutes Rule Bills you told the House recently in no uncertain terms, that we could not discuss matters outside the Motion on the Order Paper. I wished to ask whether the hon. Member was entitled to raise the whole question of housing in the course of his speech, but I am very glad to be able to sit down, because the hon. Member has now finished.

Question put, pursuant to Standing Order No. 12 (Motions for leave to bring in Bills and nomination of Select Committees at commencement of Public Business):—

The House divided: Ayes 203, Noes 250.

Division No. 54.] AYES 13.56 p.m.
Ainsley, J. W. Holmes, Horace Pearson, A.
Allaun, Frank (Salford, E.) Houghton, Douglas Peart, T. F.
Allen, Arthur (Bosworth) Howell, Denis (All Saints) Pentland, N.
Awbery, S. S. Hughes, Cledwyn (Anglesey) Plummer, Sir Leslie
Bacon, Miss Alice Hughes, Emrys (S. Ayrshire) Popplewell, E.
Balfour, A. Hughes, Hector (Aberdeen, N.) Prentice, R. E.
Bence, C. R. (Dunbarton, E.[...]) Hunter, A. E. Price, J. T. (Westhoughton)
Beswick, Frank Hynd, H. (Accrington) Probert, A. R.
Bevan, Rt. Hon. A. (Ebbw Vale) Hynd, J. B. (Attercliffe) Randall, H. E.
Blackburn, F. Irvine, A. J. (Edge Hill) Rankin, John
Blenkinsop, A. Irving, Sydney (Dartford) Redhead, E. C.
Blyton, W. R. Isaacs, Rt. Hon. G. A Reeves, J.
Boardman, H. Janner, B. Reid, William
Bottomley, Rt. Hon. A. G. Jay, Rt. Hon. D. P. T. Rhodes, H.
Bowden, H. W. (Leicester, S.W.) Jeger, George (Goole) Robens, Rt. Hon. A.
Bowen, E. R. (Cardigan) Jeger, Mrs. Lena (Holbn & St.Pncs,S.) Roberts, Albert (Normanton)
Bowles, F. G. Jenkins, Roy (Stechford) Roberts, Goronwy (Caernarvon)
Boyd, T. C. Johnson, James (Rugby) Robinson, Kenneth (St. Pancras, N.)
Braddock, Mrs. Elizabeth Jones, Rt. Hon. A. Creech (Wakefield) Rogers, George (Kensington, N.)
Brown, Rt. Hon. George (Belper) Jones, David (The Hartlepools) Royle, C.
Brown, Thomas (Ince) Jones, Jack (Rotherham) Shinwell, Rt. Hon. E.
Burton, Miss F. E. Jones, J. Idwal (Wrexham) Short, E. W.
Butler, Herbert (Hackney, C.) Jones, T. W. (Merioneth) Silverman, Julius (Aston)
Callaghan, L. J. Kenyon, C. Silverman, Sydney (Nelson)
Carmichael, J. King, Dr. H. M. Simmons, C. J. (Brierley Hill)
Champion, A. J. Ledger, R. J. Skeffington, A. M.
Chapman, W. D. Lee, Frederick (Newton) Slater, Mrs. H. (Stoke, N.)
Chetwynd, G. R. Lee, Miss Jennie (Cannock) Sorensen, R. W.
Clunie, J. Lindgren, G. S. Soskice, Rt. Hon. Sir Frank
Coldrick, W. Lipton, Marcus Sparks, J. A.
Cove, W. G. Logan, D. G. Steele, T.
Craddock, George (Bradford, S.) Mabon, Dr. J. Dickson Stewart, Michael (Fulham)
Cronin, J. D. McCann, J. Stonehouse, John
Cullen, Mrs. A. MacDermot, Niall Stones, W. (Consett)
Dalton, Rt. Hon. H. McGhee, H. G. Strachey, Rt. Hon. J.
Davies, Ernest (Enfield, E.) McGovern, J. Stross,Dr.Barnett(Stoke-on-Trent,C.)
Davies, Harold (Leek) McKay, John (Wallsend) Summerskill, Rt. Hon. E.
Davies, Stephen (Merthyr) McLeavy, Frank Sylvester, G. O.
Deer, G. MacMillan, M. K. (Western Isles) Taylor, Bernard (Mansfield)
de Freitas, Geoffrey MacPherson, Malcolm (Stirling) Taylor, John (West Lothian)
Delargy, H. J. Mahon, Simon Thomas, George (Cardiff)
Diamond, John Mallalieu, E. L. (Brigg) Thomson, George (Dundee, E.)
Dodds, N. N. Mann, Mrs. Jean Timmons, J.
Dugdale, Rt. Hn. John (W. Brmwch) Marquand, Rt. Hon. H. A. Tomney, F.
Dye, S. Mason, Roy Usborne, H. C.
Edwards, Rt. Hon. Ness (Caerphilly) Mellish, R. J. Viant, S. P.
Edwards, W. J. (Stepney) Messer, Sir F. Wade, D. W.
Evans, Albert (Islington, S.W.) Mitchison, G. R. Watkins, T. E.
Fernyhough, E. Monslow, W. Wells, Percy (Faversham)
Finch, H. J. Moody, A. S. Wells, William (Walsall, N.)
Fletcher, Eric Morris, Percy (Swansea, W.) Wheeldon, W. E.
Foot, D. M. Morrison,Rt.Hn.Herbert(Lewis'm,S.) White, Mrs. Eirene (E. Flint)
Fraser, Thomas (Hamilton) Mort, D. L. Wigg, George
Gaitskell, Rt. Hon. H. T. N. Moss, R. Wilkins, W. A.
Gordon Walker, Rt. Hon. P. [...]. Moyle, A. Willey, Frederick
Greenwood, Anthony Mulley, F. W. Williams, David (Neath)
Grenfell, Rt. Hon. D. R. Neal, Harold (Bolsover) Williams, Rev. Llywelyn (Ab'tillery)
Grey, C. F. Noel-Baker, Francis (Swindon) Williams, Ronald (Wigan)
Griffiths, David (Rother Valley) Oliver, G. H. Williams, Rt. Hon. T. (Don Valley)
Griffiths, Rt. Hon. James (Llanelly) Oram, A. E. Williams, W. R. (Openshaw)
Hall, Rt. Hn. Glenvil (Colne Valley) Oswald, T. Willis, Eustace (Edinburgh, E.)
Harrison, J. (Nottingham, N.) Owen, W. J. Winterbottom, Richard
Hastings, S. Paget, R. T. Woodburn, Rt. Hon. A.
Hayman, F. H. Paling, Rt. Hon. W. (Dearne Valley) Woof, R. E.
Healey, Denis Palmer, A. M. F. Yates, V. (Ladywood)
Henderson, Rt. Hn. A. (Rwly Regis) Pannell, Charles (Leeds, W.)
Herbison, Miss M. Pargiter, G. A. TELLERS FOR THE AYES:
Hewitson, Capt. M. Parkin, B. T. Mr. Ross and Mr. Lawson.
Holman, P. Paton, John
NOES
Agnew, Sir Peter Ashton, H. Beamish, Col. Tufton
Aitken, W. T. Atkins, H. E. Bell, Ronald (Bucks, S.)
Allan, R. A. (Paddington, S.) Baldock, Lt.-Cmdr. J. M. Bennett, F. M. (Torquay)
Alport, C. J. M. Baldwin, A. E. Bennett, Dr. Reginald
Amery, Julian (Preston, N.) Banks, Col. C. Bevins, J. R. (Toxteth)
Amory, Rt. Hn. Heathcoat (Tiverton) Barber, Anthony Biggs-Davison, J. A.
Anstruther-Gray, Major Sir William Barlow, Sir John Bingham, R. M.
Arbuthnot, John Barter, John Birch, Rt. Hon. Nigel
Bishop, F. P. Heald, Rt. Hon. Sir Lionel Orr, Capt. L. P. S.
Black, C. W. Heath, Rt. Hon. E. R. G. Osborne, C.
Body, R. F. Henderson, John (Cathcart) Page, R. G.
Boothby, Sir Robert Henderson-Stewart, Sir James Pannell, N. A. (Kirkdale)
Bossom, Sir Alfred Hicks-Beach, Maj. W. W. Partridge, E.
Boyd-Carpenter, Rt. Hon. J. A. Hill, Rt. Hon. Charles (Luton) Peel, W. J.
Bromley-Davenport, Lt.-Col. W. H. Hill, Mrs. E. (Wythenshawe) Peyton, J. W. W.
Brooke, Rt. Hon. Henry Hill, John (S. Norfolk) Pike, Miss Mervyn
Brooman-White, R. C. Hirst, Geoffrey Pilkington, Capt. R. A.
Browne, J. Nixon (Craigton) Hobson,John(Warwick & Leam'gt'n) Pitman, I. J.
Bryan, P. Holland-Martin, C. J. Pitt, Miss E. M.
Bullus, Wing Commander E. E. Hope, Lord John Pott, H. P.
Butcher, Sir Herbert Hornsby-Smith, Miss M. P. Powell, J. Enoch
Butler, Rt. Hn. R.A.(Saffron Walden) Horobin, Sir Ian Price, David (Eastleigh)
Campbell, Sir David Horsbrugh, Rt. Hon. Dame Florence Prior-Palmer, Brig. O. L.
Carr, Robert Howard, Gerald (Cambridgeshire) Profumo, J. D.
Cary, Sir Robert Howard, Hon. Greville (St. Ives) Ramsden, J. E.
Channon, Sir Henry Hughes-Young, M. H. C. Rawlinson, Peter
Chichester-Clark, R. Hulbert, Sir Norman Redmayne, M.
Clarke, Brig. Terence (Portsmth, W.) Hutchison, Michael Clark (E'b'gh,S.) Remnant, Hon. P.
Conant, Maj. Sir Roger Hutchison Sir Ian Clark (E'b'gh, W.) Renton, D. L. M.
Cooke, Robert Hylton-Foster, Rt. Hon. Sir Harry Ridsdale, J. E.
Cooper, A. E. Iremonger, T. L. Rippon, A. G. F.
Cooper-Key, E. M. Irvine, Bryant Godman (Rye) Roberts, Sir Peter (Heeley)
Corfield, Capt. F. V. Jennings, J. C. (Burton) Robertson, Sir David
Craddock, Beresford (Spelthorne) Johnson, Dr. Donald (Carlisle) Robinson, Sir Roland (Blackpool, S.)
Crosthwaite-Eyre, Col. O. E. Johnson, Eric (Blackley) Rodgers, John (Sevenoaks)
Cunningham, Knox Jones, Rt. Hon. Aubrey (Hall Green) Roper, Sir Harold
Currie, G. B. H. Joseph, Sir Keith Ropner, Col. Sir Leonard
Dance, J. C. G. Kerby, Capt. H. B. Russell, R. S.
D'Avigdor-Goldsmid, Sir Henry Kerr, Sir Hamilton Scott-Miller, Cmdr. R.
Deedes, W. F. Kershaw, J. A. Sharples, R. C.
Digby, Simon Wingfield Kimball, M. Shepherd, William
Dodds-Parker, A. D. Kirk, P. M. Simon, J. E. S. (Middlesbrough, W.)
Donaldson, Cmdr. C. E. McA. Lambton, Viscount Smithers, Peter (Winchester)
du Cann, E. D. L. Lancaster, Col. C. G. Smyth, Brig. Sir John (Norwood)
Dugdale, Rt. Hn. Sir T. (Richmond) Langford-Holt, J. A. Spearman, Sir Alexander
Duthie, W. S. Leather, E. H. C. Speir, R. M.
Eden, J. B. (Bournemouth, West) Leavey, J. A. Stevens, Geoffrey
Elliott,R.W.(Ne'castle upon Tyne,N.) Leburn, W. G. Steward, Sir William (Woolwich, W.)
Emmet, Hon. Mrs. Evelyn Legge-Bourke, Maj. E. A. H. Stoddart-Scott, Col. Sir Malcolm
Errington, Sir Eric Legh, Hon. Peter (Petersfield) Storey, S.
Farey-Jones, F. w. Lindsay, Hon. James (Devon, N.) Stuart, Rt. Hon. James (Moray)
Fell, A. Linstead, Sir H. N. Studholme, Sir Henry
Finlay, Graeme Longden, Gilbert Sumner, W. D. M. (Orpington)
Fisher, Nigel Lucas, Sir Jocelyn (Portsmouth, S.) Taylor, Sir Charles (Eastbourne)
Fletcher-Cooke, C. Lucas, P. B. (Brentford & Chiswick) Taylor, William (Bradford, N.)
Foster, John McAdden, S. J. Teeling, W.
Fraser, Sir Ian (M'cmbe & Lonsdale) Macdonald, Sir Peter Temple, John M.
Freeth, Denzil McKibbin, Alan Thomas, Leslie (Canterbury)
Gammans, Lady Maclay, Rt. Hon. John Thompson, Kenneth (Walton)
Garner-Evans, E. H. Maclean, Sir Fitzroy (Lancaster) Thompson, Lt.-Cdr.R.(Croydon, S.)
Gibson-Watt, D. Macmillan, Maurice (Halifax) Thornton-Kemsley, Sir Colin
Glover, D. Macpherson, Niall (Dumfries) Tiley, A. (Bradford, W.)
Glyn, Cot. Richard H. Maitland, Cdr. J. F. W. (Horncastle) Tilney, John (Wavertree)
Godber, J. B. Maitland, Hon. Patrick (Lanark) Turton, Rt. Hon. R. H.
Gomme-Duncan, Col. Sir Alan Markham, Major Sir Frank Vane, W. M. F.
Goodhart, Philip Marlowe, A. A. H. Vickers, Miss Joan
Gough, C. F. H. Marples, Rt. Hon. A. E. Vosper, Rt. Hon. D. F.
Gower, H. R. Mathew, R. Wakefield, Edward (Derbyshire, W.)
Graham, Sir Fergus Maude, Angus Wakefield, Sir Wavell (St. M'lebone)
Grant, W. (Woodside) Maudling, Rt. Hon. R. Walker-Smith, Rt. Hon. Derek
Grant-Ferris, Wg Cdr.R.(Nantwich) Mawby, R. L. Wall, Patrick
Green, A. Maydon, Lt.-Comdr. S. L. C. Ward, Rt. Hon. G. R. (Worcester)
Gresham Cooke, R. Milligan, Rt. Hon. W. R. Ward, Dame Irene (Tynemouth)
Grimston, Hon. John (St. Albans) Molson, Rt. Hon. Hugh Watkinson, Rt. Hon. Harold
Grimston, Sir Robert (Westbury) Moore, Sir Thomas Whitelaw, W. S. I.
Grosvenor, Lt.-Col. R. G. Mott-Radclyffe, Sir Charles Williams, Paul (Sunderland, S.)
Gurden, Harold Nabarro, G. D. N. Williams, R. Dudley (Exeter)
Hare, Rt. Hon. J. H. Neave, Alrey Wills, G. (Bridgwater)
Harris, Frederic (Croydon, N.W.) Nicholls, Harmar Wilson, Geoffrey (Truro)
Harris, Reader (Heston) Nicholson, Sir Godfrey (Farnham) Woollam, John Victor
Harrison, A. B. c. (Maldon) Nicolson, N.(B'n'm'th, E. & Chr'ch)
Harrison, Col. J. H. (Eye) Noble, Comdr. Rt. Hon. Allan TELLERS FOR THE NOES
Harvey, Sir Arthur Vere (Macclesf'd) Nugent, G. R. H. Sir James Hutchison and
Harvey, Ian (Harrow, E.) Oakshott, H. D. Sir James Duncan.
Harvey, John (Walthamstow, E.) O'Neill, Hn. Phelim(Co. Antrim, N.)